Topic: Best look at the upcoming G70 so far.

[SearhardBurger]

Done a couple of leases , now preferred to buy used and keep it for over 5 years

Fiscally speaking, that's by far the smartest move.

Well the smartest move would be not to own a car

I suppose I'm not allowed to say that on a car forum 

I guess the depends on were  you want  live

under no conditions is not owning a car the smartest move... i live in downtown toronto and it still is awful trying to get plans by taking the ttc.  service is dreadful.   

i have bought 2 new cars, and 4 used cars.  the used cars were all 1 or 2 years old with low mileage.  my audi avant was just over a yr old when i bought it.

Actually, there are several.  Personally, I made do just fine in Regina for about 4 years without a car.  Lived a 5-minute walk away from work and the downtown pubs/restaurants.  Lots of friends lived nearby too so it was never difficult to get a ride on the odd occasion that I had plans in the burbs.  Definitely not the norm, but lots of people do go without vehicles.  If the conditions are right and it suits your lifestyle, it can be a huge cost savings not owning a vehicle.

[Jaeger]

No way I could do without a car.  It's part of my psyche.

[pi314]

The psyche is the main reason I have a car. I live in downtown Ottawa. I do not have parking at work, so I use transit for that. There's car sharing and car rentals which combined would be far cheaper than owning the car.

Even if I owned my vehicle outright the minimum a car would cost is $200 a month, ignoring opportunity cost of holding a vehicle. . This is on top of the bus pass I already have to have. In my case the car has cost about 4 times that. I'm not complaining, nor am I really preaching to anyone about car ownership. We're on a car forum!

[BWII]

Question: do the taillights come on with the DRL's?  Driving in blowing snow today, and too many cars/trucks without headlights on (disabled DRL's should be illegal if it isn't - I'd ticket their a$$es if I was a cop  ) and almost no one with taillights. 

[tpl]

Question: do the taillights come on with the DRL's?  Driving in blowing snow today, and too many cars/trucks without headlights on (disabled DRL's should be illegal if it isn't - I'd ticket their a$$es if I was a cop  ) and almost no one with taillights.

If not, can they be enabled by the dealer with a computer connection....like VCDS on Vag products
How about amber rear indicators...another pet peeve of mine.


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[BWII]

That is assuming anyone uses their indicators.  Was about to cross an intersection and the guy coming opposite decided he would go first...no big deal, he got there first.  Didn't put his blinker on until he was IN the intersection to make his left...ashhole...had to stop progress because the thought was we were both going straight, and now he's driving across our path. If the kid hadn't been in the car I would've middle fingered him.

Guess this should be in the things that pissmeof thread...lol.

[carcrazed]

Question: do the taillights come on with the DRL's?  Driving in blowing snow today, and too many cars/trucks without headlights on (disabled DRL's should be illegal if it isn't - I'd ticket their a$$es if I was a cop  ) and almost no one with taillights.

None of my cars have taillights come on with DRLs.  I'd have to turn on my headlights or parking lights manually from auto to turn my taillights on during snowy weather.

[alljay]

Question: do the taillights come on with the DRL's?  Driving in blowing snow today, and too many cars/trucks without headlights on (disabled DRL's should be illegal if it isn't - I'd ticket their a$$es if I was a cop  ) and almost no one with taillights.

None of my cars have taillights come on with DRLs.  I'd have to turn on my headlights or parking lights manually from auto to turn my taillights on during snowy weather.

And that is the problem.  Too few drivers know that they have to (or can) switch their headlights from "auto" to "on" to get their lights to come on before the automatic sensor decides they should come on.

[EV-Light]

Question: do the taillights come on with the DRL's?  Driving in blowing snow today, and too many cars/trucks without headlights on (disabled DRL's should be illegal if it isn't - I'd ticket their a$$es if I was a cop  ) and almost no one with taillights.

None of my cars have taillights come on with DRLs.  I'd have to turn on my headlights or parking lights manually from auto to turn my taillights on during snowy weather.

Snowy weather usually means a bit cloudy, my vehicles would have the headlights on for sure - also because you are likely using the windshield wipers, which is another trigger for headlights on.


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[Jaeger]

Question: do the taillights come on with the DRL's?  Driving in blowing snow today, and too many cars/trucks without headlights on (disabled DRL's should be illegal if it isn't - I'd ticket their a$$es if I was a cop  ) and almost no one with taillights.

None of my cars have taillights come on with DRLs.  I'd have to turn on my headlights or parking lights manually from auto to turn my taillights on during snowy weather.

And that is the problem.  Too few drivers know that they have to (or can) switch their headlights from "auto" to "on" to get their lights to come on before the automatic sensor decides they should come on.

Not exactly rocket science but yeah, that seems to elude a lot of people.

[JohnnyMac]

Question: do the taillights come on with the DRL's?  Driving in blowing snow today, and too many cars/trucks without headlights on (disabled DRL's should be illegal if it isn't - I'd ticket their a$$es if I was a cop  ) and almost no one with taillights.

None of my cars have taillights come on with DRLs.  I'd have to turn on my headlights or parking lights manually from auto to turn my taillights on during snowy weather.

Snowy weather usually means a bit cloudy, my vehicles would have the headlights on for sure - also because you are likely using the windshield wipers, which is another trigger for headlights on.


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I'm pretty sure he's asking more about people having their tail lights on.  I know my Golf R is set to automatic and the tail lights are always on but our Santa Fe the auto setting only has the tail lights on when it detects a certain level of darkness. 

I never understand why governments don't mandate headlight and tail lights to be on at all times.

[KD]

Question: do the taillights come on with the DRL's?  Driving in blowing snow today, and too many cars/trucks without headlights on (disabled DRL's should be illegal if it isn't - I'd ticket their a$$es if I was a cop  ) and almost no one with taillights.

None of my cars have taillights come on with DRLs.  I'd have to turn on my headlights or parking lights manually from auto to turn my taillights on during snowy weather.

Snowy weather usually means a bit cloudy, my vehicles would have the headlights on for sure - also because you are likely using the windshield wipers, which is another trigger for headlights on.


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I'm pretty sure he's asking more about people having their tail lights on.  I know my Golf R is set to automatic and the tail lights are always on but our Santa Fe the auto setting only has the tail lights on when it detects a certain level of darkness. 

I never understand why governments don't mandate headlight and tail lights to be on at all times.

I've always understood it's because there is not enough contrast when the brakes are applied in the daylight if the rear lights are on already.

[JohnnyMac]

Question: do the taillights come on with the DRL's?  Driving in blowing snow today, and too many cars/trucks without headlights on (disabled DRL's should be illegal if it isn't - I'd ticket their a$$es if I was a cop  ) and almost no one with taillights.

None of my cars have taillights come on with DRLs.  I'd have to turn on my headlights or parking lights manually from auto to turn my taillights on during snowy weather.

Snowy weather usually means a bit cloudy, my vehicles would have the headlights on for sure - also because you are likely using the windshield wipers, which is another trigger for headlights on.


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I'm pretty sure he's asking more about people having their tail lights on.  I know my Golf R is set to automatic and the tail lights are always on but our Santa Fe the auto setting only has the tail lights on when it detects a certain level of darkness. 

I never understand why governments don't mandate headlight and tail lights to be on at all times.

I've always understood it's because there is not enough contrast when the brakes are applied in the daylight if the rear lights are on already.

That is a complete horse shyt excuse.  If you can't tell the difference you are a moron.  Plus a lot of vehicles have extra red light bars on the back that light up when they brake but are not on all the time.

[rrocket]

That is a complete horse shyt excuse. 

No more of a horse shyt excuse than pining for tail lights to be on during the day/all the time.

If you can't see a car in the day without tail lights on you are a moron.

Same type of thing IMO.

[KD]

Question: do the taillights come on with the DRL's?  Driving in blowing snow today, and too many cars/trucks without headlights on (disabled DRL's should be illegal if it isn't - I'd ticket their a$$es if I was a cop  ) and almost no one with taillights.

None of my cars have taillights come on with DRLs.  I'd have to turn on my headlights or parking lights manually from auto to turn my taillights on during snowy weather.

Snowy weather usually means a bit cloudy, my vehicles would have the headlights on for sure - also because you are likely using the windshield wipers, which is another trigger for headlights on.


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I'm pretty sure he's asking more about people having their tail lights on.  I know my Golf R is set to automatic and the tail lights are always on but our Santa Fe the auto setting only has the tail lights on when it detects a certain level of darkness. 

I never understand why governments don't mandate headlight and tail lights to be on at all times.

I've always understood it's because there is not enough contrast when the brakes are applied in the daylight if the rear lights are on already.

That is a complete horse shyt excuse. If you can't tell the difference you are a moron.  Plus a lot of vehicles have extra red light bars on the back that light up when they brake but are not on all the time.

Just relaying what I've been told, so no need to get nasty.  I've had a few road safety sessions where that question has been asked.  I drive about 80k a year for work so I tend to pay attention to that kind of shyte.

[JohnnyMac]

That is a complete horse shyt excuse. 

No more of a horse shyt excuse than pining for tail lights to be on during the day/all the time.

If you can't see a car in the day without tail lights on you are a moron.

Same type of thing IMO.

There are times during daylight that having your tail lights on can help greatly, like when it's foggy or snowing, etc.  Sure it's fine when it's a nice sunny day to not have any ligths on, no excuse not to see the vehicle in front of you, but if it's foggy out and you get someone who is driving very slow, you may approach them at a speed that makes it very difficult to stop in time.

Obviously there are situations where having your DLR lights on and tail lights on during daylight makes sense.  Plus how does it hurt anyone to have all lights on all the time.

[JohnnyMac]

Question: do the taillights come on with the DRL's?  Driving in blowing snow today, and too many cars/trucks without headlights on (disabled DRL's should be illegal if it isn't - I'd ticket their a$$es if I was a cop  ) and almost no one with taillights.

None of my cars have taillights come on with DRLs.  I'd have to turn on my headlights or parking lights manually from auto to turn my taillights on during snowy weather.

Snowy weather usually means a bit cloudy, my vehicles would have the headlights on for sure - also because you are likely using the windshield wipers, which is another trigger for headlights on.


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I'm pretty sure he's asking more about people having their tail lights on.  I know my Golf R is set to automatic and the tail lights are always on but our Santa Fe the auto setting only has the tail lights on when it detects a certain level of darkness. 

I never understand why governments don't mandate headlight and tail lights to be on at all times.

I've always understood it's because there is not enough contrast when the brakes are applied in the daylight if the rear lights are on already.

That is a complete horse shyt excuse. If you can't tell the difference you are a moron.  Plus a lot of vehicles have extra red light bars on the back that light up when they brake but are not on all the time.

Just relaying what I've been told, so no need to get nasty.  I've had a few road safety sessions where that question has been asked.  I drive about 80k a year for work so I tend to pay attention to that kind of shyte.

Sorry wasn't getting nasty at you, more about the thinking behind it (not your thinking but the decision makers).

[KD]

Question: do the taillights come on with the DRL's?  Driving in blowing snow today, and too many cars/trucks without headlights on (disabled DRL's should be illegal if it isn't - I'd ticket their a$$es if I was a cop  ) and almost no one with taillights.

None of my cars have taillights come on with DRLs.  I'd have to turn on my headlights or parking lights manually from auto to turn my taillights on during snowy weather.

Snowy weather usually means a bit cloudy, my vehicles would have the headlights on for sure - also because you are likely using the windshield wipers, which is another trigger for headlights on.


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I'm pretty sure he's asking more about people having their tail lights on.  I know my Golf R is set to automatic and the tail lights are always on but our Santa Fe the auto setting only has the tail lights on when it detects a certain level of darkness. 

I never understand why governments don't mandate headlight and tail lights to be on at all times.

I've always understood it's because there is not enough contrast when the brakes are applied in the daylight if the rear lights are on already.

That is a complete horse shyt excuse. If you can't tell the difference you are a moron.  Plus a lot of vehicles have extra red light bars on the back that light up when they brake but are not on all the time.

Just relaying what I've been told, so no need to get nasty.  I've had a few road safety sessions where that question has been asked.  I drive about 80k a year for work so I tend to pay attention to that kind of shyte.

Sorry wasn't getting nasty at you, more about the thinking behind it (not your thinking but the decision makers).

Well in that case...  

I also agree with you as i think the benefits of having lights on permanently outweigh any of the negatives that come to my mind.  There are just way too many people driving around without lights when it is dark.  Photocells are cheap and would not add much to the price of a car but you still have to have the setting on auto for them to work and that seems to be asking too much of some people. 

[DriverJeff]

That is a complete horse shyt excuse. 

No more of a horse shyt excuse than pining for tail lights to be on during the day/all the time.

If you can't see a car in the day without tail lights on you are a moron.

Same type of thing IMO.

I think it's more about the number idiots who don't even know how or when to turn on their lights and you end up with a 1/5 of the driving population at night or in bad weather with no back lights.  It's tough to see those idiots.  To counter that ignorance, we should all just have all the lights all the time.

[Jaeger]

That is a complete horse shyt excuse. 

No more of a horse shyt excuse than pining for tail lights to be on during the day/all the time.

If you can't see a car in the day without tail lights on you are a moron.

Same type of thing IMO.

I think it's more about the number idiots who don't even know how or when to turn on their lights and you end up with a 1/5 of the driving population at night or in bad weather with no back lights.  It's tough to see those idiots.  To counter that ignorance, we should all just have all the lights all the time.

I was driving behind a black Bentley on the 407 a couple weeks back - night time, bad weather.  It was like a big, expensive near-invisible black hole on the highway.  Proof that wealth is no immunization against idiocy.