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Re: Buying Tesla shares as a long term investment
« Reply #80 on: July 29, 2020, 03:28:47 pm »
Quote from: Smart Electric on July 29, 2020, 02:42:58 pm
Quote from: Triple Bob on July 27, 2020, 07:41:36 am
Tesla doesn't make a profit if they took the credits away

Tell that to the auto makers buying the credits from Tesla because they are unable to compete with Tesla, and clearly unable to produce compelling EV's.  I'm sure the nuance you are highlighting is troubling to them, namely, that auto makers are losing ref:

https://ir.tesla.com/static-files/f41f4254-f1cc-4929-a0b6-6623b00475a6



Uhm, what about absolute sales numbers?

This is just relative change, in which case, you can make conclusion that "Tesla is seeing growth in sale unlike most other manufacturers" but not something like "the other automakers can't compete".

Just as a simple example, Manufacture A saw growth from 5,000 to 5,500 sales, while Manufacturer B saw decline from 100,000 to 80,000. Yeah A saw growth, but in the end the sales are still a drop in the bucket compared to B.
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Re: Buying Tesla shares as a long term investment
« Reply #81 on: July 29, 2020, 03:41:57 pm »
Glad to oblige :

https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/hyhg62/in_june_monthly_sales_of_the_chinese_model_3/

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In June monthly sales of the Chinese Model 3 surpassed the Audi A4, Mercedes C-Class and E-Class for the first time

substitute "," for "." below, numbers are in thousands

 
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Model June 2020 YTD
Audi A6* 16.300 73.412
BMW 3-Series 15.910 66.787
BMW 5-Series* 15.553 71.379
Tesla Model 3 14.954 43.744
Mercedes E-Class 13.801 69.463
Mercedes C-Class 13.548 69.765
Audi A4 10.013 50.496
Volvo S90* 2.889 13.170
Volvo S60* 2.142 9.489
Jaguar XEL 978 4832
Jaguar XFL 742 2539
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Re: Buying Tesla shares as a long term investment
« Reply #82 on: July 29, 2020, 03:45:15 pm »
Yes and they also surpassed Jaguar XFL sales! Shocking!
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Re: Buying Tesla shares as a long term investment
« Reply #83 on: July 29, 2020, 03:57:24 pm »
Quote from: Smart Electric on July 29, 2020, 03:41:57 pm
Glad to oblige :

https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/hyhg62/in_june_monthly_sales_of_the_chinese_model_3/

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In June monthly sales of the Chinese Model 3 surpassed the Audi A4, Mercedes C-Class and E-Class for the first time

substitute "," for "." below, numbers are in thousands

 
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ModelJune 2020YTD
Audi A6*16.30073.412
BMW 3-Series15.91066.787
BMW 5-Series*15.55371.379
Tesla Model 314.95443.744
Mercedes E-Class13.80169.463
Mercedes C-Class13.54869.765
Audi A410.01350.496
Volvo S90*2.88913.170
Volvo S60*2.1429.489
Jaguar XEL9784832
Jaguar XFL7422539
Well, that still leaves a few other manufacturers on that graph...

I get that people who have the money tend to shift to Tesla as it does have some favourable characteristics, but sorry, us lowly poor peasants can't afford one.
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Re: Buying Tesla shares as a long term investment
« Reply #84 on: July 30, 2020, 12:19:16 pm »
Quote from: Smart Electric on July 29, 2020, 02:42:58 pm
Quote from: Triple Bob on July 27, 2020, 07:41:36 am
Tesla doesn't make a profit if they took the credits away

Tell that to the auto makers buying the credits from Tesla because they are unable to compete with Tesla, and clearly unable to produce compelling EV's.  I'm sure the nuance you are highlighting is troubling to them, namely, that auto makers are losing ref:


You answered a question nobody asked. So you're not denying they are not profitable then?
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Re: Buying Tesla shares as a long term investment
« Reply #85 on: July 31, 2020, 01:48:12 am »
Quote from: Vmango on July 30, 2020, 10:15:35 pm
https://jalopnik.com/one-week-old-tesla-model-x-has-catastrophic-suspension-1844564706
In Tesla's defense, that looks like a broken ball joint to me.

And Tesla surely doesn't manufacture their own ball joints?
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Re: Buying Tesla shares as a long term investment
« Reply #86 on: July 31, 2020, 03:18:18 pm »
Quote from: Vmango on July 31, 2020, 07:20:50 am
It was more the Tesla fanboys in the article that gave me a laugh.
Oh yea....thinnest skinned out that with a cult like belief in Tesla.
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Re: Buying Tesla shares as a long term investment
« Reply #87 on: September 06, 2020, 04:48:36 am »
Quote from: Triple Bob on July 30, 2020, 12:19:16 pm
Quote from: Smart Electric on July 29, 2020, 02:42:58 pm
Quote from: Triple Bob on July 27, 2020, 07:41:36 am
Tesla doesn't make a profit if they took the credits away

Tell that to the auto makers buying the credits from Tesla because they are unable to compete with Tesla, and clearly unable to produce compelling EV's.  I'm sure the nuance you are highlighting is troubling to them, namely, that auto makers are losing ref:


You answered a question nobody asked. So you're not denying they are not profitable then?
Seems this is pertinent to the credits you and I have been discussing with SE.

Tesla excluded from S&P 500...article hints possibly  due to their profits stemming from regulatory credits rather than auto sales?

https://www.ft.com/content/1da...06-38e6-4cd5-9e4c-a06144310478

I still think they'll get in...And maybe as a single inclusion for a whole month (or when the stock goes down) as with that massive market cap will be one heck of a rebalance headache for funds!

Either that or they think it's grossly overpriced currently.
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Re: Buying Tesla shares as a long term investment
« Reply #88 on: September 08, 2020, 01:10:51 pm »
Well, the correction finally came. -17% today, -32% in a week or so.

Anybody could see the stock was waaaaayyyyy overpriced.
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Re: Buying Tesla shares as a long term investment
« Reply #89 on: September 08, 2020, 01:22:21 pm »
Quote from: Guy on September 08, 2020, 01:10:51 pm
Well, the correction finally came. -17% today, -32% in a week or so.

Anybody could see the stock was waaaaayyyyy overpriced.
Stock dilution and Softbank manipulation certainly didn't help...
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Re: Buying Tesla shares as a long term investment
« Reply #90 on: September 08, 2020, 10:41:59 pm »
Quote from: wongpong on September 08, 2020, 10:27:50 pm
Tech sector is taking a hit.

Softbank had a hand in all of this tech run up.

I took profits just when the story was starting to come out...
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Re: Buying Tesla shares as a long term investment
« Reply #91 on: September 08, 2020, 10:43:28 pm »
Quote from: wongpong on September 08, 2020, 10:27:50 pm
Tech sector is taking a hit.

Yep, Tech just goes up and down with the weather.
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Re: Buying Tesla shares as a long term investment
« Reply #92 on: September 08, 2020, 10:53:25 pm »
Tech will bounce back. The 2nd wave of COVID will probably cause another load of retail shutdowns, people will get bored and start to buy stuff online again.
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Re: Buying Tesla shares as a long term investment
« Reply #93 on: November 24, 2020, 02:13:57 pm »
550 today (mostly due to inclusion in the S&P). So tempted to sell and buy Xpeng or Li
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Re: Buying Tesla shares as a long term investment
« Reply #94 on: November 24, 2020, 09:05:42 pm »
Sell it.
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Re: Buying Tesla shares as a long term investment
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Re: Buying Tesla shares as a long term investment
« Reply #96 on: December 27, 2022, 06:07:07 pm »
Tesla stock sure taking a beating these days. Musk antics with Twitter sure did not help. He’s not the richest man in the world anymore..


https://www.thestreet.com/markets/tesla-stock-extends-2022-crash-with-elon-musk-asleep-at-the-wheel
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Re: Buying Tesla shares as a long term investment
« Reply #97 on: December 27, 2022, 11:32:04 pm »
Quote from: Guy on December 27, 2022, 06:07:07 pm
Tesla stock sure taking a beating these days. Musk antics with Twitter sure did not help. He’s not the richest man in the world anymore..


https://www.thestreet.com/markets/tesla-stock-extends-2022-crash-with-elon-musk-asleep-at-the-wheel
Even more illuminating to me is what a :censor: the guy really is. I mean REALLY is.
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Re: Buying Tesla shares as a long term investment
« Reply #98 on: December 28, 2022, 08:06:38 am »
Quote from: rrocket on December 27, 2022, 11:32:04 pm
Quote from: Guy on December 27, 2022, 06:07:07 pm
Tesla stock sure taking a beating these days. Musk antics with Twitter sure did not help. He’s not the richest man in the world anymore..


https://www.thestreet.com/markets/tesla-stock-extends-2022-crash-with-elon-musk-asleep-at-the-wheel
Even more illuminating to me is what a :censor: the guy really is. I mean REALLY is.

I hope you sold your Tesla shares some time ago?
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Re: Buying Tesla shares as a long term investment
« Reply #99 on: December 28, 2022, 03:08:42 pm »
Quote from: Guy on December 28, 2022, 08:06:38 am
Quote from: rrocket on December 27, 2022, 11:32:04 pm
Quote from: Guy on December 27, 2022, 06:07:07 pm
Tesla stock sure taking a beating these days. Musk antics with Twitter sure did not help. He’s not the richest man in the world anymore..


https://www.thestreet.com/markets/tesla-stock-extends-2022-crash-with-elon-musk-asleep-at-the-wheel
Even more illuminating to me is what a :censor: the guy really is. I mean REALLY is.

I hope you sold your Tesla shares some time ago?
August 2021 for a tidy profit.
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