Topic: Replacing 2002 CRV with?

[PJungnitsch]

Appears things are heading into a mid air stall. 


Test drive a NEW Nissan Murano SV with driver assistance package which comes with this:

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBlTBUy-IGc

Currently offering $4000 cash back or they roll that into 0% on the finance or Lease.  Figure you could lease one of these 48 mth for under $500 tax in.  If you like it, then buy it out.

If you park outside, the winter remote start is fantastic.  Starts car, puts defrost on ultra high, turns on wheel and seat and runs for 10 min then turns off.

It shames a Toyota Venza in every respect.

That is interesting, looks like will be the next test drive.

I'm becoming more and more certain the next vehicle should have forward collision braking and radar cruise, both only available on the Platinum in the Murano, which bumps the price up. Is there much difference between the 2015/16/17 versions of the Murano? Any things to watch for on used versions?

[ArticSteve]

only available on the Platinum in the Murano, which bumps the price up

Understatement!      The Platinum is kinda leaving the value zone and then there is the issue of 20 inch tires. 


Is there much difference between the 2015/16/17 versions of the Murano? Any things to watch for on used versions?

Other than the usual thing about first year units on a brand new model.  Believe the tires got bigger in the latest version.   Can't be that many used one's on the market because most lease returns are at least a year away.  I like low speed emergency braking.  Just might save a minor rear ender and a lot of future $$$ premium costs.  Radar cruise is nice if you're getting it for a reasonable price.  They don't make it easy!   

[PJungnitsch]

CVT solid? Heard some issues with recent Pathfinders, which must use something very similar. How good is Nissan with the powertrain warranty?

[ArticSteve]

CVT solid? Heard some issues with recent Pathfinders, which must use something very similar. How good is Nissan with the powertrain warranty?

On par with FCA.  Honestly, I don't think CVTs should tow anything.

If you're buying rather than leasing, I'd take a pass on a Jatco CVT.

[johngenx]

CVT solid?

 

Some friends of ours took a beating on their 2014 Pathfinder to trade out of it.  Hated it.  NVH on the CVT got worse all the time and Nissan told them it operated properly, so F-off.  They have a new Highlander now and a lot less money in the bank.

[carcrazed]

To be fair, my brother's 09 Altima with CVT is serving him well.

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[ArticSteve]

Yes, there are a bazillion Jatco CVTs still running without failure.  PJ appears to be looking for a new unit that he might run into the ground very long term.  In that case not going to cheerlead a type of vehicle that may end up towing something with a CVT. 

Without checking me thinks a Ford Edge with the 3.5 V6 rated at 3500 lbs.  Believe the Murano is rated at 1500lbs. What's that saying?

Perhaps Arthur's mom should be in charge of this purchase as she buys same day and the loaded model to boot.  Gets it done! 

[PJungnitsch]

Heh, yeah. We test drove the Murano last night, and it was indeed impressive. Almost dead quiet on the highway, lots of power, comfortable seats, clear and easy to use touch screen with buttons. Personally I really like the styling, and all the safety stuff is there. A few cheap touches here and there, not sure why they made the steering wheel buttons look like off brand electronics.

Then back to Toyota to try another hybrid Rav4.
My favorite so far, the weight down low gives it a go kart feel like the old Mini I drove back in England. Like the flat powerband also, and the regenerative braking that takes away the freewheel affect some modern cars have as they shift into high gear as soon as they can.

[PJungnitsch]

While waiting to see another used RX, I had the bright idea to look up Nissan Rogues and we test drove both today.

Was surprised by the Rogue actually. The interior is newly redesigned for 2017 and probably our favorite so far. Nicely laid out, seemingly a bit roomier than the RAV, not as tacky as the Murano, and but similarly loaded with goodies in the Platinum trim. Integral car starter, full radar cruise and collision warning/braking/cross traffic/blind spot, plus the birds eye monitor.

Comfortable seats, clever concealable storage in the back, front seat fold flat to haul long stuff etc. Drove solid and very quiet around town with the rpms down. The only issue was engine roar while accelerating and probably the least power of everything we have tried so far. Pricing seems great, Nissan discounting heavily at the moment.

Probably the wife's number two choice at the moment if we can't find a used RX at a price she likes, and my number two after the Rav4 Hybrid.

So I guess I'll do some pricing of a Platinum Rogue (with the Reserve package, which seems like an extra comfortable seat) in the morning.

[PJungnitsch]

Rogue outside



Rogue inside:



Rogue vs RX350:



About the same length, with the RX a foot or so wider

[dirtyjeffer]

i'm sure the Rogue is nice and all, but it ain't no RX.

[PJungnitsch]

Kinda true, we've put a couple offers in on RX's already, just missing getting them. Always feel like they are carved from granite, inside and out. But....they are not all the same. Looked at one last night again. 2015 but a base model. Not much for features, badly chipped hood, just out of warranty. Meh. And outside of the F-sport, I'm not crazy about the old school styling.

The Rogue was surprisingly good, well thought out, nicely styled inside and out, and all the modern features you could want. And very well priced at the moment. Doesn't have V6 power, but what gives me the most pause is the whole Nissan reliability bogeyman.

[dirtyjeffer]

The Rogue was surprisingly good, well thought out, nicely styled inside and out, and all the modern features you could want. And very well priced at the moment. Doesn't have V6 power, but what gives me the most pause is the whole Nissan reliability bogeyman.

i will admit, i'm not a Nissan expert, but from what i've read/heard, the Rogue's are fairly decent...a coworker just checked out a new Qashqai (the marketing people need a throatpunch for using that name) and really like it too.

[Ex-airbalancer]

Regarding maintence on a RX , you always take to a Toyota dealer
I phoned the local to ask about a price for an oil change , cost only $66 for 0w-20 oil and filter , compared to about a $100 at Lexus , it takes 6.4 l of oil, at that price it not worth it to do it yourself
Most of the parts mechanical are the same as the HL

[PJungnitsch]

Thanks, good to know. Still keeping an eye open on what RX's show up

[johngenx]

I know a DIY oil change on my own old Highlander is super simple - you have to get under it, but the filter is easily accessed and the clearance means no jacking.  Takes me maybe 15min total.  One thing that I had to do the first time was get a pair of filter pliers - the oil filter seems to tighten itself on over time.

The RX is basically a Toyota underneath and doesn't really use any special/mystical mechanical components.  Should be easy to care for.

[Ex-airbalancer]

I know a DIY oil change on my own old Highlander is super simple - you have to get under it, but the filter is easily accessed and the clearance means no jacking.  Takes me maybe 15min total.  One thing that I had to do the first time was get a pair of filter pliers - the oil filter seems to tighten itself on over time.

The RX is basically a Toyota underneath and doesn't really use any special/mystical mechanical components.  Should be easy to care for.

0w-20 is usually $13 a litre , 6.4 l of oil, is $84 , plus filter , is it worth to do it yourself ?

[G.Bombay]

Sorry if this was already discussed but wouldn't a Highlander be an ideal choice? Might not have all the bells and whistles you want but I've never met an unhappy owner.

[johngenx]

0w-20 is usually $13 a litre , 6.4 l of oil, is $84 , plus filter , is it worth to do it yourself ?

Yup.  I use AMSOIL, and so I'd have to pay for labour on top of my materials cost.  Most places charge an hour for labour if you bring your own parts.

And this way too, I know it's done properly.  Even dealerships are hit and miss with oil changes.

[johngenx]

Sorry if this was already discussed but wouldn't a Highlander be an ideal choice? Might not have all the bells and whistles you want but I've never met an unhappy owner.

Late model Highlanders are pretty well equipped, especially Limited trims, but they're not an RX.  Cheaper though.