Topic: Test Drive: 2017 Lexus GS F

[Noto]

The last good looking one was the SC series to me.

You know I love you, bro, but that comment isn't going to win you any friends... The SC was possibly the worst Lexus ever made, save for maybe the HS250...

[Sir Osis of Liver]

The SC wasn't a sports car by any stretch but it was a pretty good personal luxury car or grand tourer.

I thought they received a lot more flack than they deserved.

[dkaz]

If I had to choose between buying a 300,000km Lexus GS and a 300,000km Caddy CTS, I'd go with the Lexus.

[Fobroader]

Whats wrong with this car??

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[Fobroader]

If I had to choose between buying a 300,000km Lexus GS and a 300,000km Caddy CTS, I'd go with the Lexus.

Any sane person would, brand new, a Caddy would be way more up my alley.

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[dkaz]

If they still had the CTS-V with manual transmission, I'd be all over that.

Actually I'd import a Chevy SS 6 speed manual from the US while it's still available. Seems to be a more sensible choice at half the cost even after exchange rate.

[Fobroader]

If they still had the CTS-V with manual transmission, I'd be all over that.

Actually I'd import a Chevy SS 6 speed manual from the US while it's still available. Seems to be a more sensible choice at half the cost even after exchange rate.

Oh yeah, a used SS plus a blower and you have all the power of a Caddy and a proper manual at a small fraction of the price. But again, comparing new and used isn't really fair.

[dkaz]

Oh yeah, a used SS plus a blower and you have all the power of a Caddy and a proper manual at a small fraction of the price. But again, comparing new and used isn't really fair.

I meant a 2017. $47k (ok not quite half the price, 2/3rds)

[dkaz]

6.2L V8 pushing 415 HP, not quite CTS-V, but still good for a 0-60 in 4.5 seconds.

[Fobroader]

Did not know that you could get a 2017...oh, in that case, the hell with the CTS-V or the Lexus, gimme an SS 

[dkaz]

Did not know that you could get a 2017...oh, in that case, the hell with the CTS-V or the Lexus, gimme an SS 

Right?? A non supercharged LS3 will be fairly dependable and the only big expense from the manual transmission would be a clutch every few hundred k. In a package people might laugh off as some average Chevy sedan... until they get smoked at a stop light.

[Fobroader]

Did not know that you could get a 2017...oh, in that case, the hell with the CTS-V or the Lexus, gimme an SS 

Right?? A non supercharged LS3 will be fairly dependable and the only big expense from the manual transmission would be a clutch every few hundred k. In a package people might laugh off as some average Chevy sedan... until they get smoked at a stop light.

I know there will be talk of soft touch dash this, and stitching that and on look at the soft close thingie......LS3+proper manual=winner in my books. Maybe I have lower expectations than some but the interior of the SS is ok in my books, notice the lack of awkwardly stuck on Ipad on the dash.

[Noto]

Whats wrong with this car??

A lot less than what's wrong with this:

[Fobroader]

Whats wrong with this car??

A lot less than what's wrong with this:

Oh god....not that one 

[dkaz]

I actually liked the newer SC at one point, til I saw the older SC that is.

[lebowski]

The newer SC was never a looker, but a great car for what it was. The older SC was too rounded and ovoid a design for my tastes - even by 1990's standards - but it was hardly ugly IMHO.

Well since we've opened the thread up to other cars besides the original two, this is my super-sedan choice, all day errrday, until the lease period ends (hey, I'm fiscally dumb but not a complete masochist ). Practical (seats fold down ), beautiful-from-every-angle 4-door GT with insane, effortless thrust and idiot-proof AWD handling.

[Fobroader]

Is that the A6?? 

[lebowski]

Is that the A6?? 

S6

[Fobroader]

Is that the A6?? 

S6

Ahh, ok. Nice choice.

[Noto]

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/lexus-sc430-page-2

So why does the Lexus languish in the runner-up spot? It comes down to two elements: styling and vehicle dynamics. ... Nevertheless, our own responses to the SC430's styling and dynamics were uniform and unanimous: very nice, but not for us.
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Still, for a car with soft springs and relaxed damping, the SC430's reaction to sharp bumps is disappointingly harsh.
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Although the SC's five-speed automatic takes its time serving up kickdowns for passing, this portly cruiser (3910 pounds) can hurry when prodded. We were a little disappointed with its 0-to-60 time—6.6 seconds
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if we didn't know better, it wouldn't be at all difficult to believe the SC430 belonged to the Buick family, in spirit as well as appearance.

Ouch...