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Test Drive: 2017 Porsche Macan Turbo Performance Package
« on: June 05, 2017, 07:46:13 am »
A 440 hp Swiss Army knife.
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Re: Test Drive: 2017 Porsche Macan Turbo Performance Package
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2017, 09:04:01 am »
Maybe this should be Mrs. Railton's next ride?  :stick:  :rofl2:
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Re: Test Drive: 2017 Porsche Macan Turbo Performance Package
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2017, 09:53:40 am »
Pretty damn nice.  6 figures nice?  I dunno about that.
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Re: Test Drive: 2017 Porsche Macan Turbo Performance Package
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2017, 09:59:11 am »
$110K for a Macan?  Wow.

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Re: Test Drive: 2017 Porsche Macan Turbo Performance Package
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2017, 10:03:29 am »
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Gripes? Either your writer has the mental capacity of a lentil salad, or the memory seat function was borked, and never worked properly. I’m leaning towards the latter. Further, the climate control system consistently lost its settings and needed to be dialed in again, every time the engine was started.
:rofl2: FGC already?!

You gave it a 7/10 for Fuel Economy...I don't know what you saw yourself, but the ratings of 12.6/8.0/9.7 L/100 km cty/hwy/cmb are hardly what I'd call "unimpressive" for a 440hp CUV.  Our Forester may be 6 years old, but the engine/tranny combo remained standard until 2013.  So only 4 years ago, our 226hp/224lb-ft powertrain managed no better (12.4/10.2/11.2 L/100km) - in fact, I'd say the Macan Turbo PP actually is rated better, both on premium fuel, but has almost literally double the power.  I'd call that an incredible win.

Hell, the 2017 Jeep Compass 4x4 with the 2.4L I4 (172hp) is worse than 8.0L/100km on the highway! (with the off-road crawl)
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8.7 L / 100 km (32 mpg) hwy
https://www.jeep.ca/en_dir/pdf/fuel_jeep.pdf

The Macan Turbo PP's consumption is about the same (city/high/cmb) as a V6 Grand Cherokee, a much larger vehicle with only 290hp.
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Re: Test Drive: 2017 Porsche Macan Turbo Performance Package
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2017, 10:29:00 am »
well, the fuel thing i can understand... can't give it a nine or ten when there are vehicles that get better... just because we assume it should do worse due to hp and such, doesn't mean it gets a bye in actual fuel economy read outs.

some people just look at scores like that from the magazines and will assume, "well, this car gets a 7 and this other one is a 6, therefore the 7 gets better fuel economy"... scores need to be factual, not based on impressions or comparisons. claiming, the "fuel economy was fantastic considering the power", then giving a lower number is how it should be done. also, why compare the dinosaur compass? gotta be the "oldest" car out right now from anyone. using the same chart you posted and a review here, the more modern cherokee (tested in 2016 here and given a 6 rating for fuel), rated at 11.1/7.4 city/hwy and uses 87 octane. using that as a "compass" (pardon the pun), the 7 that this macan gets is way too favourable.

anywho, onto the car. I like these guys. i've never loved the porsche way of making 4-5 different variants of powerplants, so i never know whether to scoff at the driver for buying a slow porsche, or give a knowing nod and kudos to them as they pass... not until you see the back do you really know whether it is a soccer mom or a track car on it's way home... and even then, catch me on an early monday and i'll forget... is an S faster than a turbo?... wait?... is there some kind of package that makes one faster? i forget...

all i think is that this needs a louder colour. there is a matte bright blue turbo that cruises through my town... love it.
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Re: Test Drive: 2017 Porsche Macan Turbo Performance Package
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2017, 12:05:44 pm »

... and even then, catch me on an early monday and i'll forget... is an S faster than a turbo?... wait?... is there some kind of package that makes one faster? i forget...


LOL, quite true.  Making it more difficult these days, an 'S' is in fact a turbo....in the 911 line-up anyway. 

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Re: Test Drive: 2017 Porsche Macan Turbo Performance Package
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2017, 12:09:00 pm »

... and even then, catch me on an early monday and i'll forget... is an S faster than a turbo?... wait?... is there some kind of package that makes one faster? i forget...


LOL, quite true.  Making it more difficult these days, an 'S' is in fact a turbo....in the 911 line-up anyway.

I think an S is a turbo in every model these days.

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Re: Test Drive: 2017 Porsche Macan Turbo Performance Package
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2017, 12:25:20 pm »

... and even then, catch me on an early monday and i'll forget... is an S faster than a turbo?... wait?... is there some kind of package that makes one faster? i forget...


LOL, quite true.  Making it more difficult these days, an 'S' is in fact a turbo....in the 911 line-up anyway.

I think an S is a turbo in every model these days.
i agree, the monikers are a little odd...the way they have them labelled insinuates that only the top model is turbocharged...however, all of the Macans are turbocharged.
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Re: Test Drive: 2017 Porsche Macan Turbo Performance Package
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2017, 01:38:08 pm »
I'd like to see real world economy numbers for the Macan turbo.  No way I'd be getting 9.7L/100km in it.  I can meet or beat the ratings for the Highlander because it's not fun to drive.  My 911 was rated for 15L/100km in city driving and 12L/100km highway and I was usually close to 20 in town and 15 on the highway.  Yeah, I know, 30 years of technology, blah blah, blah.  The reality is that a boosted Porsche built for spirited driving is going to drink fuel when you drive it as intended, not like someone that has a purse dog in their lap and is texting their colourist because their ombre hair is suddenly not in style and this is an emergency.

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Re: Test Drive: 2017 Porsche Macan Turbo Performance Package
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2017, 01:40:49 pm »
I'd like to see real world economy numbers for the Macan turbo.  No way I'd be getting 9.7L/100km in it.  I can meet or beat the ratings for the Highlander because it's not fun to drive.  My 911 was rated for 15L/100km in city driving and 12L/100km highway and I was usually close to 20 in town and 15 on the highway.  Yeah, I know, 30 years of technology, blah blah, blah.  The reality is that a boosted Porsche built for spirited driving is going to drink fuel when you drive it as intended, not like someone that has a purse dog in their lap and is texting their colourist because their ombre hair is suddenly not in style and this is an emergency.
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Holy crap....you've just nailed the buyer of this segment to a tee!!!!

For me an SRT-8 Grand Cherokee with a Magnuson supercharger sounds like a hell of a good time.....plus you would have that awesome V8 noise and a wad of cash in your pocket
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Re: Test Drive: 2017 Porsche Macan Turbo Performance Package
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2017, 02:15:44 pm »
$110K Macan with rental fleet wheels.  No thanks; at this price, looks count. 

For the $110K, I could buy a loaded F-Pace S with money left to burn for a brand new Miata. 

The problem here is that with options people will want in the luxury market, the Macan becomes stupidly overpriced. 

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Re: Test Drive: 2017 Porsche Macan Turbo Performance Package
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2017, 02:24:58 pm »
If I was buying a Macan I would stop at the GTS model for $76K


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Re: Test Drive: 2017 Porsche Macan Turbo Performance Package
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2017, 02:25:20 pm »
$110K Macan with rental fleet wheels.  No thanks; at this price, looks count. 

For the $110K, I could buy a loaded F-Pace S with money left to burn for a brand new Miata. 

The problem here is that with options people will want in the luxury market, the Macan becomes stupidly overpriced.

I had to check out the article after reading that comment. Wheels look awesome to me: nice to see some meaty rubber on this thing! :thumbup:

Having said that, the spec list at the end of the article says this Macan has optional 21" wheels. Sure doesn't look like it to me. ???

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Re: Test Drive: 2017 Porsche Macan Turbo Performance Package
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2017, 02:35:35 pm »
If I was buying a Macan I would stop at the GTS model for $76K



That is pretty freaking sharp right there.

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Re: Test Drive: 2017 Porsche Macan Turbo Performance Package
« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2017, 02:39:42 pm »
$110K Macan with rental fleet wheels.  No thanks; at this price, looks count. 

For the $110K, I could buy a loaded F-Pace S with money left to burn for a brand new Miata. 

The problem here is that with options people will want in the luxury market, the Macan becomes stupidly overpriced.

I had to check out the article after reading that comment. Wheels look awesome to me: nice to see some meaty rubber on this thing! :thumbup:

Having said that, the spec list at the end of the article says this Macan has optional 21" wheels. Sure doesn't look like it to me. ???

Those are definitely stock "19" Macan Turbo Wheel" on that car in the photos. 

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Re: Test Drive: 2017 Porsche Macan Turbo Performance Package
« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2017, 02:40:43 pm »
If I was buying a Macan I would stop at the GTS model for $76K


The GTS equipped trim has been the best value per dollar for each model it is offered in since Porsche created that option.  You really have to want certain options/drivetrain specifications badly to not like what the GTS package gives you and pay extra for something else from them.   

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Re: Test Drive: 2017 Porsche Macan Turbo Performance Package
« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2017, 03:42:02 pm »
some people just look at scores like that from the magazines and will assume, "well, this car gets a 7 and this other one is a 6, therefore the 7 gets better fuel economy"... scores need to be factual, not based on impressions or comparisons. claiming, the "fuel economy was fantastic considering the power", then giving a lower number is how it should be done. also, why compare the dinosaur compass? gotta be the "oldest" car out right now from anyone.
Don't you sell Jeeps?

The Compass is a brand new model!!!  We just reviewed it, too:
http://www.autotrader.ca/expert/20170515/comparison-test-2017-compact-suvs-part-2-40-000/

From my understanding, the scoring is not overall relative to everything out there... I'm sure all EVs get 10/10, but why should they?  Why not rank it by range then? 

I would rank it relative to itself... How does the fuel economy compare to expectations for the type of vehicle?

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Re: Test Drive: 2017 Porsche Macan Turbo Performance Package
« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2017, 04:55:32 pm »
don't you read what you post? heh... (sorry, had to!) that was from 2014 stats, and it referred to the old compass and patriot. also, the 2017 model year has both compasses available... dumb in my opinion, but smarter (read: higher paid) people thinks it's smart.

and that is a fine way to rank it, but we all have different expectations. i am fine that my wrangler is averaging 12.1 right now... i expect a brick with 283hp and gearing to climb on mud tires to be crap on fuel. a sane person who doesn't care about 4x4 capability and such will think it is horrendous.

so make it relative to everything in it's size category? comparable in power? similar drivetrains? can be tricky...

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Re: Test Drive: 2017 Porsche Macan Turbo Performance Package
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2017, 06:00:04 pm »
If I was buying a Macan I would stop at the GTS model for $76K


  :iagree: the GTS would be my pick any day.

That said, unless ground clearance is a priority, Cousin Audi makes a pretty compelling sport-hatch-thing for a lot less money...


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