Topic: The Motorcycling Thread

[Triple Bob]

The tire costs are definitely crazy. I just replaced my rear tire. $75 for the tire. $140 for the shop to put it on. 

That’s crazy expensive. The Bike Shoppe in Edmonton charged me that much for both tires on bike. Your TU250 has tube tires right?

I want to add, for people who are unable to wrench, the intervals and costs are expensive compared to a car.

Oil change service? $150-250 on a motorcycle vs. $50-100 in a car.

Again, a ridiculous cost for an oil change. And TBH, an oil change on a bike is way easier than a car, so simple. No reason not to do it yourself even if you have to watch a youtube video...

It is and I do. I’m just dealing with a stripped oil drain bolt right now I can’t figure out how to get off. Even my trusty vise grip can’t get it off.

During warranty, what I did to save money was did the oil change myself and got the shop to do the inspection stuff for me. They charged me $65 or something which I thought was reasonable. 

A shop in Stoon charges $30 to change a dirt bike tire.  Seems fair. Anything over $50 to change a tire seems outrageous to me.

I think tubeless tires take a bit more effort.

When I had my old Vino 125, I did my own tires as the rear tire only lasted me 5,000 km. That was a pain in the ass. Bead seating is the part I dread the most. I wonder if I could get the tire on and pay the shop to seat the bead for me.

I just hung my FZ09 from the garage roof and took both the wheels off to get new tires put on. The lesson on a bike is do what you can yourself, and if you have to pay someone else to do it, make it easy for them.

[ktm525]

New tire is tubeless

Wait and your wheels are spoked correct? We may have identified why this costs a little more.

[Arthur Dent]

That is a lot, but some shops always did charge an arm and a leg.

When I lived in Lethbridge I would get tires for my Vstrom done at a little shop in Coaldale.

Very Harley type place, complete with a giant Great Dane sleeping in the middle of the floor

I think it closed recently.

[dkaz]

For Fobroader.

[ktm525]

I somehow ended up at the motorcycle dealer friday after work. Had to check out the tenere 700.

Saw a shiny one yesterday at the lights. I think he was disgusted at my stained 500     Yamaha looked purdy.

[Triple Bob]

I somehow ended up at the motorcycle dealer friday after work. Had to check out the tenere 700.

Saw a shiny one yesterday at the lights. I think he was disgusted at my stained 500     Yamaha looked purdy.

Very nice bike but didn't had time to look closely. With the social distance thing your stuck with an employee next to you.. a bit too rushed.   The bike is definitely big.   

That Tenere 700 with a few add-ons is probably a lot of people's perfect bike. It will be super capable AND very reliable. You could easily do a RTW trip on that.

[ktm525]

I somehow ended up at the motorcycle dealer friday after work. Had to check out the tenere 700.

Saw a shiny one yesterday at the lights. I think he was disgusted at my stained 500     Yamaha looked purdy.

Very nice bike but didn't had time to look closely. With the social distance thing your stuck with an employee next to you.. a bit too rushed.   The bike is definitely big.   

That Tenere 700 with a few add-ons is probably a lot of people's perfect bike. It will be super capable AND very reliable. You could easily do a RTW trip on that.

You know staring a the thick bundle of wires/cables running along the top of my frame over my valve cover I was thinking how screwed I would be if any of this whiz bang stuff crapped the bed out in the middle of nowhere. Troubleshooting that could be a nightmare.  I think if I was going on a truly expedition style ride (and not just riding paved highways everywhere) my ride of choice would be a Honda XR650L or even an earlier air cooled 600. No desire to put full days in the saddle and huge mileage. Just poke along on back roads and trails taking in the whole experience at a reasonable pace.

Now there has been some expedition  rides around the world on modern KTM 500CC thumpers but I think once you load them up with all the baggage crap what is the point of using a bike reknowned for light weight and handling?

[Triple Bob]

I somehow ended up at the motorcycle dealer friday after work. Had to check out the tenere 700.

Saw a shiny one yesterday at the lights. I think he was disgusted at my stained 500     Yamaha looked purdy.

Very nice bike but didn't had time to look closely. With the social distance thing your stuck with an employee next to you.. a bit too rushed.   The bike is definitely big.   

That Tenere 700 with a few add-ons is probably a lot of people's perfect bike. It will be super capable AND very reliable. You could easily do a RTW trip on that.

You know staring a the thick bundle of wires/cables running along the top of my frame over my valve cover I was thinking how screwed I would be if any of this whiz bang stuff crapped the bed out in the middle of nowhere. Troubleshooting that could be a nightmare.  I think if I was going on a truly expedition style ride (and not just riding paved highways everywhere) my ride of choice would be a Honda XR650L or even an earlier air cooled 600. No desire to put full days in the saddle and huge mileage. Just poke along on back roads and trails taking in the whole experience at a reasonable pace.

Now there has been some expedition  rides around the world on modern KTM 500CC thumpers but I think once you load them up with all the baggage crap what is the point of using a bike reknowned for light weight and handling?

True.

[dkaz]

Is it better to have a bike that needs to be fixed more often but is "easy to fix" or a bike that's super reliable for over 100,000km but needs a mechanic to work on it?

As a person who isn't super mechanically inclined, I'd take the super reliable route. Some people say tinkering is part of the fun. I don't want to tinker, I just want to ride.

[Guy]

Nice bikes for sale in Quebec! 

https://www.lespac.com/terrebonne/vehicules-motos/1969-rokon-trail-breaker-mk3_114053208D0.jsa?searchCriteria=L3NlYXJjaC9yZXN1bHRzLmpzYT9sPTEmaT0xJmRoPTAmaz0yJmU9NDYuODE2NjcmZj0tNzEuMjMzMzMmaD0xJmc9MTUzOTgmYj0yOTQmdz1NT1RPUkNZQ0xFX3RyYW5zbWlzc2lvbiZ0PTE5NjUmdT0xOTc1Jmo9MCZ6ej02NTA5MDg5&navigationInfo=YT0xMCZiPTI2JmM9NTUwNDExNTVTMTEzNjU4MDM0UzUyNjA1MzE0UzU1MTQ4MjY1UzU1NTA5NzQ4UzExNDA1MzIxMVMxMTQwNTMyMDhTMTE0MDEyNzE4UzExNDAxMjcxNFMxMDc4ODM1ODEmZD0w&requester=SCH

https://www.lespac.com/terrebonne/vehicules-motos/1971-ossa-175-sport_107883581D0.jsa?searchCriteria=L3NlYXJjaC9yZXN1bHRzLmpzYT9sPTEmaT0xJmRoPTAmaz0yJmU9NDYuODE2NjcmZj0tNzEuMjMzMzMmaD0xJmc9MTUzOTgmYj0yOTQmdz1NT1RPUkNZQ0xFX3RyYW5zbWlzc2lvbiZ0PTE5NjUmdT0xOTc1Jmo9MCZ6ej02NTA5MDg5&navigationInfo=YT0xMCZiPTI2JmM9NTUwNDExNTVTMTEzNjU4MDM0UzUyNjA1MzE0UzU1MTQ4MjY1UzU1NTA5NzQ4UzExNDA1MzIxMVMxMTQwNTMyMDhTMTE0MDEyNzE4UzExNDAxMjcxNFMxMDc4ODM1ODEmZD0w&requester=SCH

https://www.lespac.com/terrebonne/vehicules-motos/1971-ural-m-63-sidecar_114053211D0.jsa?searchCriteria=L3NlYXJjaC9yZXN1bHRzLmpzYT9sPTEmaT0xJmRoPTAmaz0yJmU9NDYuODE2NjcmZj0tNzEuMjMzMzMmaD0xJmc9MTUzOTgmYj0yOTQmdz1NT1RPUkNZQ0xFX3RyYW5zbWlzc2lvbiZ0PTE5NjUmdT0xOTc1Jmo9MCZ6ej02NTA5MDg5&navigationInfo=YT0xMCZiPTI2JmM9NTUwNDExNTVTMTEzNjU4MDM0UzUyNjA1MzE0UzU1MTQ4MjY1UzU1NTA5NzQ4UzExNDA1MzIxMVMxMTQwNTMyMDhTMTE0MDEyNzE4UzExNDAxMjcxNFMxMDc4ODM1ODEmZD0w&requester=SCH

https://www.lespac.com/terrebonne/vehicules-motos/1973-brookside-sherpa-t-350_114012714D0.jsa?searchCriteria=L3NlYXJjaC9yZXN1bHRzLmpzYT9sPTEmaT0xJmRoPTAmaz0yJmU9NDYuODE2NjcmZj0tNzEuMjMzMzMmaD0xJmc9MTUzOTgmYj0yOTQmdz1NT1RPUkNZQ0xFX3RyYW5zbWlzc2lvbiZ0PTE5NjUmdT0xOTc1Jmo9MCZ6ej02NTA5MDg5&navigationInfo=YT0xMCZiPTI2JmM9NTUwNDExNTVTMTEzNjU4MDM0UzUyNjA1MzE0UzU1MTQ4MjY1UzU1NTA5NzQ4UzExNDA1MzIxMVMxMTQwNTMyMDhTMTE0MDEyNzE4UzExNDAxMjcxNFMxMDc4ODM1ODEmZD0w&requester=SCH

[me_2]

Springtime garage clean out sale ? 

Or covid-19 emergency cash recovery?

[ktm525]

Is it better to have a bike that needs to be fixed more often but is "easy to fix" or a bike that's super reliable for over 100,000km but needs a mechanic to work on it?

As a person who isn't super mechanically inclined, I'd take the super reliable route. Some people say tinkering is part of the fun. I don't want to tinker, I just want to ride.

My point is that if you are doing expedition rides (you know where Joe from Suburbia buys all the fancy bolt on aluminum luggage to his BMW)  where you are truly on your own the greater the number of things you can fix trailside the better off you will be because things WILL happen. Fuel injection pumps fail, fuel filters clog (esp with crappy gas, looking at you Mexico), wires rub through and create shorts. orings on brake systems fail, tires go flat, chains break, spokes break, bearings fail..

You could throw that XR650 off a cliff and fix the broken stuff with a crescent wrench, some wire and a stick. More importantly that bike could be fixed in 99% of the world. Would the XR be fun to ride for endless days for 1000s of kms?  No.

ps. That is a really clean XR. I think his price is a little high as it doesn't have ABS, DCT and the seat height is tall.  At $4k that is a winner.

And for boredom sake an old video of a guy throwing a XR650L around on a track vs a 450.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=60&v=70jokjTaGT4&feature=emb_logo

[ktm525]

Saw this today. Now I want one :-)

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I think I can just make out a little propeller. What is it?

[dirtyjeffer]

S1000RR

if you like these, the dealer by me has a used white one they just got in on trade ($12,895):

https://www.wolfmotorcycles.com/default.asp?page=xPreOwnedInventoryDetail&id=8873351&p=1&s=Year&d=D&fr=xPreOwnedInventory

they also have a really nice Black/Red 2016 model ($15,495), but there is a sale pending on it:

https://www.wolfmotorcycles.com/default.asp?page=xPreOwnedInventoryDetail&id=7599251&p=1&s=Year&d=D&t=preowned&fr=xPreOwnedInventory

[Fobroader]

Is it better to have a bike that needs to be fixed more often but is "easy to fix" or a bike that's super reliable for over 100,000km but needs a mechanic to work on it?

As a person who isn't super mechanically inclined, I'd take the super reliable route. Some people say tinkering is part of the fun. I don't want to tinker, I just want to ride.

Easy to fix all the way. Most that are easy to fix are also the ones that are super reliable. I would only own a euro bike if I had a budget like that guy from Trainspotting that went the long way around.

[ktm525]

S1000RR

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Ok thanks.  I will look it up and educate myself. It has two Rs so it must be super racy? 

[dirtyjeffer]

S1000RR

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Ok thanks.  I will look it up and educate myself. It has two Rs so it must be super racy? 

it's a 200HP crotch rocket...it was also one of the first (when it came out a few years ago)...there's a couple 200 HP rockets out there now.

i've ridden sport bikes with 80-100 HP and they are blisteringly fast...i don't even want to know what 200 HP is like...pretty much death.

[Guy]

My FJR-1300 was brutal with only 135 hp.

[dirtyjeffer]

My FJR-1300 was brutal with only 135 hp.

i know...and that thing is 642 lbs...the S1000RR is only 450 lbs (2010-2018) or 434 lbs (2019 to present)...imagine how bananas that would be.

[Triple Bob]

S1000RR

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Ok thanks.  I will look it up and educate myself. It has two Rs so it must be super racy? 

it's a 200HP crotch rocket...it was also one of the first (when it came out a few years ago)...there's a couple 200 HP rockets out there now.

i've ridden sport bikes with 80-100 HP and they are blisteringly fast...i don't even want to know what 200 HP is like...pretty much death.

It's a great bike, but fairly soulless.