Topic: The Motorcycling Thread

[rrocket]

I put mine in front of a heater for 30 mins.

The best is wrecking a tube with your irons or pinching it! LOL

I was late in the game buying some really nice irons from Motion Pro...which made it a bit easier.

[dkaz]

Ugh, I went through 4 rear tires and 2 front tires on my old Vino 125 in 18,000 km. Never again.

[Fobroader]

How much does a tire/bike shop charge for doing this?? I've seen this on youtube and changing a tire/tube at home seems like a bad time to me.

[dkaz]

How much does a tire/bike shop charge for doing this?? I've seen this on youtube and changing a tire/tube at home seems like a bad time to me.

The Bike Shoppe charges I think $80-90 for the rear tire and $50-60 for the front tire? Their tire prices are very comparable to online btw. I was quoted $290 installed for Michelin Road 5s which go for $210 on Fortnine. If you bring your wheels in loose, they would probably charge $30-40.

You have a tube tire on your bike, should be somewhere between a tubeless tire and a bicycle tire in terms of difficulty.

[Fobroader]

How much does a tire/bike shop charge for doing this?? I've seen this on youtube and changing a tire/tube at home seems like a bad time to me.

The Bike Shoppe charges I think $80-90 for the rear tire and $50 for the front tire? Their tire prices are very comparable to online btw. If you bring your wheels in loose, they would probably charge $30.

You have a tube tire on your bike, should be somewhere between a tubeless tire and a bicycle tire in terms of difficulty.

I remember doing bike tires when I was a kid, not fun, but I can imagine on a much bigger, stiffer tire would be a huge PITA.

[bridgecity]

How much does a tire/bike shop charge for doing this?? I've seen this on youtube and changing a tire/tube at home seems like a bad time to me.

The Bike Shoppe charges I think $80-90 for the rear tire and $50 for the front tire? Their tire prices are very comparable to online btw. If you bring your wheels in loose, they would probably charge $30.

You have a tube tire on your bike, should be somewhere between a tubeless tire and a bicycle tire in terms of difficulty.

I remember doing bike tires when I was a kid, not fun, but I can imagine on a much bigger, stiffer tire would be a huge PITA.

I don't know what street tires are like, but dirt tires are a million times worse than a bicycle tire. 

We typically make a garage/beer session out of it.  Buddy of mine has all the tools including the wheel stand, so I go over with some cold ones and get it done.  It's been a while, but the local shop charges about $40 I think to change over.  Not about the money, more about the pain of dropping off and picking up later. 

[rrocket]

I don't know what street tires are like, but dirt tires are a million times worse than a bicycle tire. 

Sport bike tires?

Forget about it.

[dkaz]

I don't know what street tires are like, but dirt tires are a million times worse than a bicycle tire. 

Sport bike tires?

Forget about it.

Worse than scooter tires?

[Triple Bob]

I put mine in front of a heater for 30 mins.

The best is wrecking a tube with your irons or pinching it! LOL

I was late in the game buying some really nice irons from Motion Pro...which made it a bit easier.

I pinched the first tube, so that was an excuse to buy 3 more proper HD ones, which I wanted to get anyway. The one I pinched was used anyway so no biggie, at least I hadn't bought it. I also bought the Motion Pro spoons too as my irons weren't flat enough.

Dirt bike tires are fine, I have no problem changing those, I'm not going to pay anyone to do that. It's basically a big mountain bike wheel. Now I have a tire stand and the right tools it's easy. Road bike I'll pay someone else to do, way too much bead tension for me to faff around with it.

[HeliDriver]

I put mine in front of a heater for 30 mins.

The best is wrecking a tube with your irons or pinching it! LOL

I was late in the game buying some really nice irons from Motion Pro...which made it a bit easier.

I pinched the first tube, so that was an excuse to buy 3 more proper HD ones, which I wanted to get anyway. The one I pinched was used anyway so no biggie, at least I hadn't bought it. I also bought the Motion Pro spoons too as my irons weren't flat enough.

Dirt bike tires are fine, I have no problem changing those, I'm not going to pay anyone to do that. It's basically a big mountain bike wheel. Now I have a tire stand and the right tools it's easy. Road bike I'll pay someone else to do, way too much bead tension for me to faff around with it.

I find there's a big difference between tires: some go on easy, and some are damn near impossible. Depends on sidewall stiffness I guess, but I also think manufacturing quality has something to do with it.

I had some made-in-Thailand Michelin Starcross tires that were truly horrible. Destroyed all my knuckles before I finally gave up and took the rim and tire to the shop. I felt better when the tire shop guy said they were among the worst he'd ever had to mount and he almost gave up too. It was almost like they'd been made 1/2" too small for the rim. No way I was ever going to buy another set, yet others I talked to said theirs went on fine.

Last pair of mtb tires I mounted, I didn't even need to use the plastic levers to get it on, just rolled the bead on with my thumb!

[blur911]

I put mine in front of a heater for 30 mins.

The best is wrecking a tube with your irons or pinching it! LOL

I have so many patchs from pinching tubes it isn't funny.

[rrocket]

I put mine in front of a heater for 30 mins.

The best is wrecking a tube with your irons or pinching it! LOL

I have so many patchs from pinching tubes it isn't funny.

I think Tubliss system is probably the way to go off-road for most.

[HeliDriver]

^^ Riding buddy of mine swears by it. He’s running 4-6 psi with gummies and says the grip is incredible.

I’ve been tempted, but it’s pricey. Also been tempted by the newer Nitro Mousses: apparently there’s a softer one that mimics a 6-8 psi feel.

Not going to do it this time, though. I’ve got a couple of new UHD tubes that I’ll throw in when I put on the new Kendas.

[rrocket]

^^ Riding buddy of mine swears by it. He’s running 4-6 psi with gummies and says the grip is incredible.

I’ve been tempted, but it’s pricey. Also been tempted by the newer Nitro Mousses: apparently there’s a softer one that mimics a 6-8 psi feel.

Not going to do it this time, though. I’ve got a couple of new UHD tubes that I’ll throw in when I put on the new Kendas.

Yep..Tubliss is such a smart system.

Be careful with mousse. Very dependent on riding style.  I killed a set with my XR650R.  Though that was long ago and they might be much improved these days.

I'd still go Tubliss.

I used to rub tubes with SLime hole sealer built right in them.  Forget what they were called.

[Triple Bob]

I looked into mousses, they are better but are still too expensive to only last a season or two. I can't be bothered with the hassle of installing tubliss.

[rrocket]

I can't be bothered with the hassle of installing tubliss.

Oh I could....no more pinching tubes, fewer flats,  better traction, better handling, better braking, etc

I'm 100% on board.

[ktm525]

Finally got the new tire(s) on!

Bridgestone Battlecross X30 for me, and moved my 1 season old Dunlop AT81 to my son's bike, to replace his perished front tire. 

And put in some HD innertubes.

My hands and shoulders still ache, my god what a job...

What is with all the pi$$ing and moaning regarding spooning tires? It should take no more than 5-10 mins tops. More than that or using force means you are doing in wrong. Get the opposite side bead in the center of the rim and the rest is gravy. I spoon tires all the time with 2  10" aluminum motion pro spoons. Almost no force. WTH are you all doing lol?   

[bridgecity]

^Experience man. Still a struggle for me every time. It’s not easy that’s for sure.

Good to see you back on here.

[ktm525]

^Experience man. Still a struggle for me every time. It’s not easy that’s for sure.

Good to see you back on here.

1) Yeah it's been awhile. Really have little to say on the car front..

2) With the tire thing the key and only key is to keep the opposite bead of where you are spooning in the center of the rim. Do not let the tire bead migrate to the edge of the wheel. Look at a moto wheel, in the center the circumference is smaller than the edges. Use a bead buddy or vice grips or anything to keep the tire bead from seating.

3) I had some old ISDE riders show me how and those guys could move. 5-10 mins from wheel on bike to wheel back on bike.

4) Tubliss vs UHD tubes vs mousse. I like UHDs for most applications. Tubliss are OK and handy if airing down etc but field repairs are sometimes more challenging than repairing a conventional tube. I carry a 21" tube to use in front or rear and a patch kit and a bike pump. On a long adventure multi day ride I can handle endless flats lol.  With the tubliss sometimes finding the puncture in the tire is the issue, or a torn tire. Either way hard to plug. The tubliss guys I ride ride with carry a tube on multi day rides.. The mousse is great for a specific application but they do not like sustained speed. They get very hot and can break down.

[rrocket]

Different compounds going on different. I've had mostly easy..but some PITA.

I recall my Kenda Trakmaster being a PITA.