Topic: Rev's ongoing buy/sell thread

[me_2]

Mountain is to keep 45% battery level before going huge uphill and keep wide buffer. 

I was to tell you about the "Engine Assisted Heating" section 5-51 of 2013 Volt owner manual selection either Cold (+2C) or very Cold (-10C) but you already figured that out. Mine is set to -10C.

First time on Highway going downhill a long step with selector in L, I was kind of surprise to keep a steady speed on cruse without touching the brake, only regen braking

[Bubba]

Mountain is to keep 45% battery level before going huge uphill and keep wide buffer. 

I was to tell you about the "Engine Assisted Heating" section 5-51 of 2013 Volt owner manual selection either Cold (+2C) or very Cold (-10C) but you already figured that out. Mine is set to -10C.

First time on Highway going downhill a long step with selector in L, I was kind of surprise to keep a steady speed on cruse without touching the brake, only regen braking

Something Manitoba Volt owners know nothing about.   

[me_2]

Something Manitoba Volt owners know nothing about.   

I can't figure why       

[me_2]

About the regen braking going downhill, I must add it is effective as long the battery is not full.

[Blueprint]

About the regen braking going downhill, I must add it is effective as long the battery is not full.

Indeed! Can't recall what car it was but after a full charge I was going to one pedal it to a stop and - nothing! Full battery = no regen = no ebrakes, but ymmv. It's part of the fun of discovering new plug-ins - so many operating parameters differ from one model to another 

[revalations]

Reading that many Volt owners leave the gear selector in L all the time, it does slow down pretty quickly in max regen mode. Trouble is, with the gen 1 car the brake lights don't come on with your foot off the go pedal.

[dirtyjeffer]

Reading that many Volt owners leave the gear selector in L all the time, it does slow down pretty quickly in max regen mode. Trouble is, with the gen 1 car the brake lights don't come on with your foot off the go pedal.

i would have thought that would be mandated by law...perhaps a software update of some sort?

[me_2]

Reading that many Volt owners leave the gear selector in L all the time, it does slow down pretty quickly in max regen mode. Trouble is, with the gen 1 car the brake lights don't come on with your foot off the go pedal.

i would have thought that would be mandated by law...perhaps a software update of some sort?

Yes it is mandated as long the deceleration exceed X m/s~2   (don't remember exact number, I posted it here before, I'll retrieve it later.)
On my 2014 Spark EV and 2019 Volt gen2, stronger regen braking force brings mandate braking light to turn on for sure but not Volt gen1!

[Fobroader]

See Toyota, you don't have to make a transformer sex toy to have a hybrid car. This Volt has always been the most attractive hybrid vehicle to me, it just looks decent. Great find!!

[me_2]

Reading that many Volt owners leave the gear selector in L all the time, it does slow down pretty quickly in max regen mode. Trouble is, with the gen 1 car the brake lights don't come on with your foot off the go pedal.

i would have thought that would be mandated by law...perhaps a software update of some sort?

Yes it is mandated as long the deceleration exceed X m/s~2   (don't remember exact number, I posted it here before, I'll retrieve it later.)
On my 2014 Spark EV and 2019 Volt gen2, stronger regen braking force brings mandate braking light to turn on for sure but not Volt gen1!

From Feb 12, 2015 post I did about my 2014 Spark EV

I have no clue if Canada and/or USA do follow those directives or not. The thing I know for sure, when I drive on L (max. regen) , it lit up by itself when I release the "accelerator" pedal at higher speed on highway with my EV!

http://www.unece.org/fileadmin/DAM/trans/main/wp29/wp29regs/R13hr2e.pdf Uniform provisions concerning the approval of passenger cars with regard to braking, see page 22, section 5.2.22.4


Electric regenerative braking systems as defined in paragraph 2.17., which produce a retarding force upon release of the accelerator control, shall generate the signal mentioned above according to the following provisions:

Vehicle decelerations : Signal generation
≤ 0.7 m/s2 : The signal shall not be generated
> 0.7 m/s2 and ≤ 1.3 m/s2 : The signal may be generated
> 1.3 m/s2 : The signal shall be generated

In all cases the signal shall be de-activated at the latest when the deceleration has fallen below 0.7 m/s2

[TheHire]

See Toyota, you don't have to make a transformer sex toy to have a hybrid car. This Volt has always been the most attractive hybrid vehicle to me

I mean, sure, and I like the Volt too, but if we're comparing to Toyota... how's the Volt doing today vs. the Prius? 

[revalations]

See Toyota, you don't have to make a transformer sex toy to have a hybrid car. This Volt has always been the most attractive hybrid vehicle to me

I mean, sure, and I like the Volt too, but if we're comparing to Toyota... how's the Volt doing today vs. the Prius? 

It may go down in history as one of the most reliable GM vehicles ever made. These are tanks, from the battery's to the operating systems, I've found next to nothing online in regards to failures. Quite surprising given the amount of tech inside. One owner in Michigan has over 400k miles without any major issues. Apparently over engineered and hav e left owners very happy.

Took it to Calgary this week. It's giving me 5.5 L/100 km on these mountain trips. No lack of jam uphills and as I said earlier, the car is definitely a few solid notches above in driving feel and ride compared to cars in its size class. The gas engine does get a little intrusive when pulling long hills (no tach, but I'd guess it spins at 4200-4700 rpm at times) aside from that it operates as quietly as any normal car running gas/electric while cruising. No when I jump in a normal car I find I plan out braking events for maximum regen lol.

[ChaosphereIX]

Yeah the Volt is one of GMs all time best. And of course it is cancelled, because GM. Poor marketing, leasing or financing incentives did not reflect how well these were loved by their owners. Mom is on her second Volt, and she said she would not trade it in for an iPace. Would rather have her Volt. Only major issue was faulty window seal leading to wet malfunctioning central locks. Down for a few days. That is it.

[Great_Big_Abyss]

Maybe the Volt's reliability is why GM sh!tcanned it?   

How is GM going to sell more cars if their vehicles run forever?

[Scaerio]

Well at least they have the Bolt, which looks pretty good.  Kind of an electric spiritual successor to the Vibe.

[revalations]

See Toyota, you don't have to make a transformer sex toy to have a hybrid car. This Volt has always been the most attractive hybrid vehicle to me, it just looks decent. Great find!!

 I agree, worst decision GM made was to stop making the Volt.

From my research, GM lost big money on every Volt sold.

[ChaosphereIX]

Well at least they have the Bolt, which looks pretty good.  Kind of an electric spiritual successor to the Vibe.

You don't mean that, really? The Bolt is quite ugly. 

Yes GM lost money on most of the Volts they sold, but they were starting to make money as the second gen matured, from my understanding. Volt, with powertrain adapted to small CUVs, could have been quite the boost for GM. NOW look at their lineup...mostly meh at best.

[me_2]

Not specific to Gen 2 but "shift to park" issue is shared with other models. Google it

[Scaerio]

Well at least they have the Bolt, which looks pretty good.  Kind of an electric spiritual successor to the Vibe.

You don't mean that, really? The Bolt is quite ugly. 

Yes GM lost money on most of the Volts they sold, but they were starting to make money as the second gen matured, from my understanding. Volt, with powertrain adapted to small CUVs, could have been quite the boost for GM. NOW look at their lineup...mostly meh at best.

The Bolt looks like a Honda Fit or Nissan Versa Note.  It's fine.

[PJungnitsch]

Volt, with powertrain adapted to small CUVs, could have been quite the boost for GM.

Agree. There's going to be quite a while before pure electric takes over, and there's money to be made in the meantime. Look at the demand (and price) for plug in hybrid Rav4's. GM has trouble seeing the long game, finds it way to easy to kill things and start over rather than stick with a product, improve it and build trust.
A lot of well liked GM orphans around, including my Vibe. My wife has had two Saturns and has fond memories of them.

The Volt as a CUV under the Saturn brand would have done quite well I think