Topic: 2018 Chevrolet Equinox

[Solstice2006]

Not sure what to think, guess will wait till I see one in the flesh.  Looks ok, but that C pillar has huge blind spots.

No V6, but a diesel is offered.

Article doesn't say, but the 2.0L gas engine offers 3500lbs towing capacity, I assume the diesel would be the same.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-introduces-new-2018-equinox-with-diesel-power-92898.html

[revalations]

I like it. Looks like a nice evolution from the old Nox. The diesel option is a surprise.

[OliverD]

I don't love the styling but it's certainly a lot better than the current model

The diesel is definitely a surprise.

[Solstice2006]

Not like GM to keep a surprise either...

[Ex-airbalancer]

I will be More interested in the look of the Terrain than the Equinox

[BWII]

You mean in case they made it less ugly? 

The Eq looks pretty nice.  So far.

[EV Dan]

Not to rain on this parade but the 1.6L diesel is tiny and in Europe is used on smaller cars. Sure, 40 mpg is great but how long will it take for the needle to reach 60? I'd guess upper 10 sec, which is too long by modern standards of anything.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=u32S9L9TnHc
Needs a 2.0L turbo diesel to be a seller IMHO.

[EV Dan]

Via green car congress:


New 1.6L diesel in 2018 Chevrolet Equinox related to Opel’s 1.6L CDTi Whisper Diesel
24 September 2016

The new 1.6-liter diesel engine to be offered in the US in the 2018 Equinox (earlier post) is similar to Opel’s 1.6L CDTi Whisper Diesel (earlier post) in Europe, and is derived from a common Italian-German-American medium diesel engine design, according to GM. The first application of the 1.6L CDTi was unveiled in 2013 at the Geneva Motor Show in the Zafira Tourer. (Earlier post.)

Maximum power for the Equinox engine is estimated at 136 hp (101 kW), with 320 N·m torque. The engine has a bore x stroke of 79.7 mm x 80.1 mm and a compression ratio of 16.0:1. Fuel pressure is 2000 bar (29,000 psi).

Built with an aluminum block and head, the engine features a new combustion system (with variable swirl) and is also equipped with a variable displacement oil pump and ECU-controlled piston cooling jets.

A variable-vane turbocharger enables the engine to deliver more power with lower exhaust emissions and no decrease in overall fuel efficiency.

NOx emissions are controlled via a Selective Catalyst Reduction (SCR) after-treatment system that uses urea-based Diesel (Emission) Exhaust Fluid (DEF). Electrically heated lines feed the DEF to the emission system to ensure adequate delivery in cold weather.

The 1.6L for the Equinox also includes GM’s latest diesel particulate filter system. An advanced ceramic-type (silicon carbide) exhaust gas filter is installed behind the oxidizing catalyst in the exhaust system, characterized by hundreds of small, porous tubes blocked at one end. This forces the exhaust gas through the walls of the tubes, trapping particulate matter, which is periodically burned off by the heat of the exhaust.

[EV-Light]

Wondering now if 12s is more realistic for the  Equinox given the Zafira takes 0-60mph in 10.4s


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[revalations]

Seems diesel folks don't much care how fast they go. The VW TDI has never been even a remotely quick car. I had a 2002 Jetta TDI 5 speed and it felt quicker than the factory 12 sec 0-60 times would suggest thanks to the down low torque of the engine. We'll see I guess.

[EV Dan]

Seems diesel folks don't much care how fast they go. The VW TDI has never been even a remotely quick car. I had a 2002 Jetta TDI 5 speed and it felt quicker than the factory 12 sec 0-60 times would suggest thanks to the down low torque of the engine. We'll see I guess.

But I suppose they care how much they can tow, in case of an SUV. Only 2.0T gas version gets a 3500lb rating...
I'd like to know what diesel folk would turn down the 2.8L turbo diesel used in Canyon and its Chevy twin.

[Solstice2006]

Seems diesel folks don't much care how fast they go. The VW TDI has never been even a remotely quick car. I had a 2002 Jetta TDI 5 speed and it felt quicker than the factory 12 sec 0-60 times would suggest thanks to the down low torque of the engine. We'll see I guess.

But I suppose they care how much they can tow, in case of an SUV. Only 2.0T gas version gets a 3500lb rating...
I'd like to know what diesel folk would turn down the 2.8L turbo diesel used in Canyon and its Chevy twin.

That's a good point at that 2.8L diesel was used by the Jeep Cherokee.  It should be able to fit in the Equinox. 

[EV Dan]

My guess is GM didn't want to spend much on having to certify multiple diesels for the NA market. So the "Nox" was unlucky IMO to end up with the engine originally planned for the upcoming 2nd gen Cruze, where it will make for an amazing powertrain:

Engine

Chevrolet has officially confirmed that it is working on a diesel-powered variant of the second-generation Cruze. The brand has also confirmed the diesel engine will be the new 1.6L CDTI motor. Developed by GM’s Opel subsidiary in Europe, the motor made its initial debut in the Euro-market Opel-Vauxhall Astra. For the Chevy Cruze Diesel, the engine will be adapted for emissions regulations in North America.

Known as the Whisper Diesel in Europe, the 1.6L CDTI engine makes roughly 140 horsepower and 240 pound-feet of torque in the Euro-market Opel Astra lineup, with which the Chevrolet Cruze shares its D2 platform.

By comparison, the first-generation Chevy Cruze Diesel was powered by a 2.0-liter turbo-diesel engine rated at 148 horsepower and 258 pound-feet of torque.
Fuel Economy

We expect the 2017 Cruze diesel to deliver better fuel economy than the first-generation model, which was rated at 27 MPG city and 46 MPG highway for a combined fuel economy rating of 33 MPG.

Contributing to the fuel economy improvements of the 2017 model are a smaller and more efficient efficient 1.6L turbo-diesel 4-cylinder engine powering a vehicle that is notable lighter than its predecessor. As such, the 2017 Chevy Cruze TD could have an EPA mileage of about 51-52 mpg highway, well among the highest of non-hybrid cars.
http://gmauthority.com/blog/gm/chevrolet/cruze/2017-cruze/2017-cruze-diesel/

[EV-Light]

My guess is GM didn't want to spend much on having to certify multiple diesels for the NA market. So the "Nox" was unlucky IMO to end up with the engine originally planned for the upcoming 2nd gen Cruze, where it will make for an amazing powertrain:

Engine

Chevrolet has officially confirmed that it is working on a diesel-powered variant of the second-generation Cruze. The brand has also confirmed the diesel engine will be the new 1.6L CDTI motor. Developed by GM’s Opel subsidiary in Europe, the motor made its initial debut in the Euro-market Opel-Vauxhall Astra. For the Chevy Cruze Diesel, the engine will be adapted for emissions regulations in North America.

Known as the Whisper Diesel in Europe, the 1.6L CDTI engine makes roughly 140 horsepower and 240 pound-feet of torque in the Euro-market Opel Astra lineup, with which the Chevrolet Cruze shares its D2 platform.

By comparison, the first-generation Chevy Cruze Diesel was powered by a 2.0-liter turbo-diesel engine rated at 148 horsepower and 258 pound-feet of torque.
Fuel Economy

We expect the 2017 Cruze diesel to deliver better fuel economy than the first-generation model, which was rated at 27 MPG city and 46 MPG highway for a combined fuel economy rating of 33 MPG.

Contributing to the fuel economy improvements of the 2017 model are a smaller and more efficient efficient 1.6L turbo-diesel 4-cylinder engine powering a vehicle that is notable lighter than its predecessor. As such, the 2017 Chevy Cruze TD could have an EPA mileage of about 51-52 mpg highway, well among the highest of non-hybrid cars.
http://gmauthority.com/blog/gm/chevrolet/cruze/2017-cruze/2017-cruze-diesel/

Either that or GM is attempting to raise its fleet average without thinking about the customer



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[Ex-airbalancer]

My guess is GM didn't want to spend much on having to certify multiple diesels for the NA market. So the "Nox" was unlucky IMO to end up with the engine originally planned for the upcoming 2nd gen Cruze, where it will make for an amazing powertrain:

Engine

Chevrolet has officially confirmed that it is working on a diesel-powered variant of the second-generation Cruze. The brand has also confirmed the diesel engine will be the new 1.6L CDTI motor. Developed by GM’s Opel subsidiary in Europe, the motor made its initial debut in the Euro-market Opel-Vauxhall Astra. For the Chevy Cruze Diesel, the engine will be adapted for emissions regulations in North America.

Known as the Whisper Diesel in Europe, the 1.6L CDTI engine makes roughly 140 horsepower and 240 pound-feet of torque in the Euro-market Opel Astra lineup, with which the Chevrolet Cruze shares its D2 platform.

By comparison, the first-generation Chevy Cruze Diesel was powered by a 2.0-liter turbo-diesel engine rated at 148 horsepower and 258 pound-feet of torque.
Fuel Economy

We expect the 2017 Cruze diesel to deliver better fuel economy than the first-generation model, which was rated at 27 MPG city and 46 MPG highway for a combined fuel economy rating of 33 MPG.

Contributing to the fuel economy improvements of the 2017 model are a smaller and more efficient efficient 1.6L turbo-diesel 4-cylinder engine powering a vehicle that is notable lighter than its predecessor. As such, the 2017 Chevy Cruze TD could have an EPA mileage of about 51-52 mpg highway, well among the highest of non-hybrid cars.
http://gmauthority.com/blog/gm/chevrolet/cruze/2017-cruze/2017-cruze-diesel/

Either that or GM is attempting to raise its fleet average without thinking about the customer



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That a weird statement , they offering 3 engines what more would 95% of their buyers want

It is all about the cafe , beside their target market is retired GM employees

[conwelpic]

It will start at a MSRP of $26,995 in Canada

http://www.carscoops.com/2016/12/new-15l-turbo-2018-chevrolet-equinox.html

[Noto]

It will start at a MSRP of $26,995 in Canada

http://www.carscoops.com/2016/12/new-15l-turbo-2018-chevrolet-equinox.html

Yup, diesel's DOA.

It'll be a price premium, while at the same time losing 34hp (but gaining 35 lb-ft of twisties) for marginal fuel betterment.

Pricing seems pretty aggressive - I wonder how much the volume model will cost.