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Re: First Drive: 2017 Cadillac XT5
« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2016, 10:34:53 pm »
Cadillac. Gronk. Sales off by 12.5% in the US so far this year. Coffee shop opens in NYC to compensate for those who somehow want to dare greatly. Old models milling around unsold in US dealer lots get flogged off on $299/month leases. Or less.

But here in Canada, no sign of decent prices on the stuck inventory, and the sham high end aura somehow desperately lives on. When I see some poor Caddy, usually an ATS around here, being driven like an old Buick, I actually wonder if the owners/leasers are still awake enough to have considered something else or are still stuck in an '80s slumber of past remembrances.

Then this piece of XT5 overbling lightitude shows up, fuelled by blown dry hairdo types swanning it by running a coffee shop in New Yawk City replete with Cadillac Scent. Seriously off the rails stuff. Car and Driver pointed out that a crossover powered by an engine with a 5,000 rpm torque peak, and overgeared transmission, together combine to provide tepid midrange response which is hardly inspiring in a "luxury" machine. No Audi Q7 then or GLE 400, even if both weigh more. Plus there's the reliability factor of recent years. What exactly is supposed to be the XT5's unique selling proposition? Sales in China are only at 50% of US levels so there's not a whole lot going on there for Cadillac either. Just don't get it.

I cannot imagine that there's a reader here who's straining at the leash to lease one of these XT5s, desperate to be seen in one because it's the latest and greatest. It's a pudgy-looking thing with so-so performance and a bit o' leather inside coupled with CUE. A winning combo all around. To me, Cadillac didn't even try.This is just the advance rollout of cheaper Chev, GMC and Buick models featuring the same oily bits at a cheaper price. YMMV.

Hot take! And nice work adding “YMMV” at the end - you do indeed seem reasonable and open to other points of view.

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Re: First Drive: 2017 Cadillac XT5
« Reply #21 on: June 02, 2016, 11:18:21 pm »

Review was otherwise very good as is the vehicle. Cadillac seems to be the one division of GM that is truly well sorted.

What's interesting is the sales number don't agree with you.  Cadillac has not been selling well while other GM brands have been doing quiet well.

Though a lack of CUV's in their line-up might be part of the issue.  It will be interesting to see as the XT5 is replacing the best selling vehicle in their line-up (SRX).  More CUV's are coming but GM needs to get them out faster.

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Re: First Drive: 2017 Cadillac XT5
« Reply #22 on: June 05, 2016, 04:19:06 pm »
Cadillac and Buick sales in the $30,000 up segment are about 50,000 units more than Lexus, Bmw , and Mercedes.  And that is not including GMC.  I wouldn't be too focused on just Cadillac sales as they share some platforms, engines, and transmissions qithbothrr GM brands.   GM as a whole is raking in plenty of cash.

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Re: First Drive: 2017 Cadillac XT5
« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2016, 08:55:43 pm »
Hot take! And nice work adding “YMMV” at the end - you do indeed seem reasonable and open to other points of view.


Well, he does drive a 6 year old Legacy, the pinnacle of automotive development that no other manufacturer has yet been able to meet, much less surpass.   ::)
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Re: First Drive: 2017 Cadillac XT5
« Reply #24 on: June 06, 2016, 09:05:27 pm »
An ALERO takes that record by a metric mile.  :)

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Re: First Drive: 2017 Cadillac XT5
« Reply #25 on: June 06, 2016, 09:54:21 pm »
An ALERO takes that record by a metric mile.  :)

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Re: First Drive: 2017 Cadillac XT5
« Reply #26 on: June 06, 2016, 09:56:35 pm »
An ALERO takes that record by a metric mile.  :)

I concur...having had the miserable luck of dating a girl who owned one.
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Re: First Drive: 2017 Cadillac XT5
« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2016, 05:21:00 pm »
Hot take! And nice work adding “YMMV” at the end - you do indeed seem reasonable and open to other points of view.


Well, he does drive a 6 year old Legacy, the pinnacle of automotive development that no other manufacturer has yet been able to meet, much less surpass.   ::)

...well, except for an 11-year-old Legacy  :P