This, along with a million other reasons, is why I will never buy a newly-constructed house. I will either end up in jail for murder, or the looney bin.
- Microwave area not finished and not properly secured.- Extra holes drilled in one of the cabinet doors- Cabinet doors on island mounted with wrong opening direction- kitchen island does not cover the hardwood floor below properly - insufficient wood coverage. - kitchen island countertop not secured - it moves- kitchen island does not afford sufficient clearance to move appliances in/out of their place - and its very heavy to move- Balluster decorations not flush with floor- Main floor patio door, left side does not open/close properly - appears to be crooked with respect to frame- Outside water shut off valve leaking from both ends AND missing drain cap - Outside water shut off valve is situated directly above venting motor for HWT - if leaks there is an electrical hazard here.- Missing jointing sand / polymeric sand in paving to stop weeds etc.- 2nd floor laundry vent at rear of house missing louvres. - Shower curtain rods are missing - 2nd floor bathroom and basement bathroom- Attic bathroom vanity - right side faucet not working, right side drawer not working- Cold room door - key locks from both sides - someone can get trapped inside! Its like a prison. Inside should not require a key to get out!- Master ensuite bath has no door. Would like a sliding door. - Giant pile of peat moss in the back yard behind an ugly concrete barrier. Area appears to be used to store peat moss for tree plantings on the development site. Please remove and place grass- Several patches of grass missing around locations dug for trees. Also, the trees themselves are missing.- Per APS should have screens on all operational windows and patio doors. Currently no screens are present at all.- Missing house number (on exterior)- Tilt and turn windows missing opening angle restrictors on upper floors (for child safety etc.)- Kitchen range hood missing part of the grille- Dishwasher - upper drawer interferes with cabinet handle when opening- Dishwasher - lower drawer opening action very rough, appears to be grinding on something- Was there a squirrel living in the soffits?- stairs wood is scratched multiple spots - baseboard warped in living/dining room - Kitchen cabinets in corner - door is warped or cabinet is misaligned with wall- hardwood discoloration under sunlight exposures- stairwell skylight label is still stuck to the glass
Quote from: Brigitte on April 24, 2016, 08:00:50 pmThis, along with a million other reasons, is why I will never buy a newly-constructed house. I will either end up in jail for murder, or the looney bin.I am collecting issues into a list right now for my Tarion 30-day warranty form. It is 5 miles long so far and I haven't actually *lived* in the house yet.So far (some of these are notes for things I need to check on later...so its may read a bit funny)Quote- Microwave area not finished and not properly secured.- Extra holes drilled in one of the cabinet doors- Cabinet doors on island mounted with wrong opening direction- kitchen island does not cover the hardwood floor below properly - insufficient wood coverage. - kitchen island countertop not secured - it moves- kitchen island does not afford sufficient clearance to move appliances in/out of their place - and its very heavy to move- Balluster decorations not flush with floor- Main floor patio door, left side does not open/close properly - appears to be crooked with respect to frame- Outside water shut off valve leaking from both ends AND missing drain cap - Outside water shut off valve is situated directly above venting motor for HWT - if leaks there is an electrical hazard here.- Missing jointing sand / polymeric sand in paving to stop weeds etc.- 2nd floor laundry vent at rear of house missing louvres. - Shower curtain rods are missing - 2nd floor bathroom and basement bathroom- Attic bathroom vanity - right side faucet not working, right side drawer not working- Cold room door - key locks from both sides - someone can get trapped inside! Its like a prison. Inside should not require a key to get out!- Master ensuite bath has no door. Would like a sliding door. - Giant pile of peat moss in the back yard behind an ugly concrete barrier. Area appears to be used to store peat moss for tree plantings on the development site. Please remove and place grass- Several patches of grass missing around locations dug for trees. Also, the trees themselves are missing.- Per APS should have screens on all operational windows and patio doors. Currently no screens are present at all.- Missing house number (on exterior)- Tilt and turn windows missing opening angle restrictors on upper floors (for child safety etc.)- Kitchen range hood missing part of the grille- Dishwasher - upper drawer interferes with cabinet handle when opening- Dishwasher - lower drawer opening action very rough, appears to be grinding on something- Was there a squirrel living in the soffits?- stairs wood is scratched multiple spots - baseboard warped in living/dining room - Kitchen cabinets in corner - door is warped or cabinet is misaligned with wall- hardwood discoloration under sunlight exposures- stairwell skylight label is still stuck to the glass
Has the builder done their clean up and pre inspection check ? But some of the stuff sound better bazaar Was it a custom builder?
For reference, I closed 6 homes last week in KW. That's how you do it, but then again we've been building homes for 60 years
Tarion works best in relation to unambiguous building code violations.It is least effective when the essence of the complaint is a departure from "workmanlike" quality.If the builder declines to fix the noted deficiency, you have the option of a conciliation. If Tarion concludes that the builder was not obligated to fix the deficiency, you are out of pocket a few hundred dollars.
Quote from: AP on April 25, 2016, 10:07:12 amTarion works best in relation to unambiguous building code violations.It is least effective when the essence of the complaint is a departure from "workmanlike" quality.If the builder declines to fix the noted deficiency, you have the option of a conciliation. If Tarion concludes that the builder was not obligated to fix the deficiency, you are out of pocket a few hundred dollars. Figures. Still, lets hope these guys are at least respectable.I chatted with my new neighbour. Same builder, very similar house. They had a few issues that seemed fairly major (refinished all HW floors, redid the weatherstriping for all doors+windows) but the builder handled it all.
VM's been building houses for 60 years? Wow, dude you look great for your age...Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: johngenx on April 25, 2016, 10:38:04 amVM's been building houses for 60 years? Wow, dude you look great for your age...Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkHe absorbs the life force of his buyers.
FWIW, I forced a conciliation a few years ago. I had concerns about a potential structural issue. The builder balked. It went to conciliation but Tarion put in writing that the builder was correct - no structural issues.It cost me $200. But now I have something in writing in the off-chance that a home inspector on resale raises the same concern. To my mind, this was an inexpensive way to respond to such a concern, should it ever arise.
Quote from: mmret on April 25, 2016, 11:02:34 amWould it be best to send the list of issues to the builder first (and relatively soon, we are on day 10 now) before it goes off to Tarion?Of course, I will have to send whatever isn't fixed in time to Tarion before the 30d is up, but in the interest of remaining civil some heads up would be good?Yes, work with the builder first. Establish some deadlines.
Would it be best to send the list of issues to the builder first (and relatively soon, we are on day 10 now) before it goes off to Tarion?Of course, I will have to send whatever isn't fixed in time to Tarion before the 30d is up, but in the interest of remaining civil some heads up would be good?
Do not trust the builder to resolve the issues without reporting them to Tarion. If they are not addressed by the 30 days, file a Tarion report with the outstanding deficiencies.Long story short: I reported a deficiency on a Tarion report. The builder addressed the concern. Shortly thereafter - but still during the 2 year warranty period - I noticed that the deficiency had returned. I notified the builder via email. Since the deficiency had previously been reported through Tarion, I did not initiate a new Tarion report. Builder then declined to fix it, noting I had not gone through Tarion. By then, it was too late to file a new Tarion record.A small piece of everyday evil.
