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Re: Used Vehicle Review: Lexus LS, 2007-2015
« Reply #200 on: March 27, 2016, 09:44:30 pm »
Wokeism is nothing more than the recognition and opposition of bigotry in all its forms.  Bigots are predictably triggered.

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Re: Used Vehicle Review: Lexus LS, 2007-2015
« Reply #201 on: March 27, 2016, 09:46:25 pm »
Lexus LS or bust. When the better half prefers the better vehicle, you go for the better vehicle. Happy wife, happy life, especially with an LS.
IQ wasn't too fond (initially) with my LS, and preferred the GS and SC as she likes the sportier cars.   But since this is my car, I bought what I preferred.  I could have lived with either one, but the condition of the LS, the serene ride and very high quality along with price swayed me.

 IQ has really warmed up to the LS though! And every time she drives it says: "This is a  really, REALLY nice car"
How fast is my 911?  Supras sh*t on on me all the time...in reverse..with blown turbos  :( ...

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Re: Used Vehicle Review: Lexus LS, 2007-2015
« Reply #202 on: March 27, 2016, 10:05:47 pm »
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/edmonton/2008-lexus-ls-600hl/1150468662

I like the dark blue sapphire colour.

It would look better if it had a tan or brown interior.
Brown would be my choice.  I have never been a fan of tan interiors.

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Re: Used Vehicle Review: Lexus LS, 2007-2015
« Reply #203 on: March 27, 2016, 10:06:32 pm »
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/edmonton/2008-lexus-ls-600hl/1150468662

I like the dark blue sapphire colour.

Beautiful shade.  Ambitious price for an 08.
Not so much in Alberta.  I find used cars are generally more expensive here than in BC or Ontario.

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Used Vehicle Review: Lexus LS, 2007-2015
« Reply #205 on: March 27, 2016, 10:14:17 pm »
Not bad! Owned by someone who seems to have cared for it. That car has tons and tons of life left.

That said, the 2004-2006 is the preferred years to have because of the upgrades.

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Re: Used Vehicle Review: Lexus LS, 2007-2015
« Reply #206 on: March 27, 2016, 10:19:16 pm »
That's really low mileage for an '02 - wow.

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Re: Used Vehicle Review: Lexus LS, 2007-2015
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« Reply #208 on: March 27, 2016, 11:22:24 pm »
Nope. Mine was the first year...1990

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Re: Used Vehicle Review: Lexus LS, 2007-2015
« Reply #209 on: March 28, 2016, 07:30:05 am »
This one actually appeals to me more than the M.  Some pretty serious bang for the buck.  Plus it would just be cool to have 429hp under the hood.   :skid:  Wish it weren't a 2 hour drive away.  :(

http://www.autotrader.ca/a/Hyundai/Genesis/Collingwood/Ontario/5_26573226_/

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Re: Used Vehicle Review: Lexus LS, 2007-2015
« Reply #210 on: March 28, 2016, 07:53:48 am »
This one actually appeals to me more than the M.  Some pretty serious bang for the buck.  Plus it would just be cool to have 429hp under the hood.   :skid:  Wish it weren't a 2 hour drive away.  :(

http://www.autotrader.ca/a/Hyundai/Genesis/Collingwood/Ontario/5_26573226_/

What extras do you get with the R Spec? Maybe the dealer would meet you halfway? If not, lets load up the bikes, I know some awesome routes up there with only a 'little' climbing.  ;D

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Used Vehicle Review: Lexus LS, 2007-2015
« Reply #211 on: March 28, 2016, 07:58:49 am »
The r spec is awesome.

2 hours?   That's not very far

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Re: Used Vehicle Review: Lexus LS, 2007-2015
« Reply #212 on: March 28, 2016, 08:57:06 am »
The r spec is awesome.

2 hours?   That's not very far

Exactly, its part of the adventure in finding your ride...

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Re: Used Vehicle Review: Lexus LS, 2007-2015
« Reply #213 on: March 28, 2016, 10:43:44 am »
Lots of car for the money. The question, to my mind, is how it will hold up over the next 5 to 6 years. Seems conceivable that total ownership costs might not be considerably less than an LS.

Fair question - and the sample size on the Rspec is probably way small in terms of stats supporting reliability.  I think the previous generation Genesis did fairly well as a whole in that regard, though.  And the R-Pec didn't add any fancy electronic tech - so I doubt it did any worse.  And this is starting out with about 40k kms less than the leading LS - that's more than two years of driving for me just to get to where that LS is now.  I still think the LS is a probably a better fit and the AWD is a significant plus for me.  But this one has piqued my interest and I'd certainly give it consideration.  The old Genesis took a lot of heat for its boring and derivative exterior styling but every time I see one I think it looks sharp.  It has aged very well, in my very subjective opinion - and will likely look better longer than the GS.

What extras do you get with the R Spec? Maybe the dealer would meet you halfway? If not, lets load up the bikes, I know some awesome routes up there with only a 'little' climbing.  ;D

Dude - I have totally cracked your code on a "little climbing".  If you tell me the route is dead flat then it just might be survivable.  The RSpec was only available for two years.  The big diff is the bored-out V8 from 4.6 to 5 liters and a bump in hp from 380 - 430.  5 seconds flat to 60. 19" wheels and a firmer suspension.  Only downside is it comes with a boring all black interior - no contrast anywhere - just a coal bin.

The r spec is awesome.

2 hours?   That's not very far

Exactly, its part of the adventure in finding your ride...

Fair enough - just not something I can accomplish mid-week.

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Re: Used Vehicle Review: Lexus LS, 2007-2015
« Reply #214 on: March 28, 2016, 10:44:29 am »
The r spec is awesome.

If you recall any specifics of your impressions, I'd be keen to hear.

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Re: Used Vehicle Review: Lexus LS, 2007-2015
« Reply #216 on: March 28, 2016, 11:22:59 am »
^^^ That'll do nicely.  ;D

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Re: Used Vehicle Review: Lexus LS, 2007-2015
« Reply #217 on: March 28, 2016, 01:09:04 pm »
I didn't take James review to be especially bullish on the RSpec's sporting capability. This might sound a bit out there but, while reading the review, I was left wondering whether the 300 was the better comparator for the RSpec. Straightline bruiser, good highway cruiser and weak on the corners.

Of course, I somehow doubt Jaeger is a 300 kind of a guy.

In the sense of handling, no - pretty much all the reviews I have read suggest that even the most sporting version of the previous genesis still stays on the luxury side of the sport/luxury fence.  But then the LS is likely even further removed.

The following paragraphs from the review leads me to believe that the R-Spec is more refined than the 300:

"There is lots of nothing out on the open road — no wind noise, no road noise, no engine noise, no windshield wiper noise and, remarkably, as you pass 18-wheelers, no outside noise intrusion — wow!

There is one thing that the Genesis R spec offers lots of though, and that is thrust! The 429-hp V8 engine moves the car with authority. For all you left lane bandits that finally get out of the way, and see this big sedan go from 80 – 120 km/h only to disappear from your view in seconds, it must be awe inspiring.

From the driver’s seat it just feels like the thrusters have engaged: you get pushed back in your seat and quickly realize you’d better not get carried away. Acceleration can only be described as effortless.

Is it better than a 5 series or an Infiniti M? Tough one; it certainly is different. The M and 5 provide more dynamics — this Genesis feels more like a cruiser and would compete well with what Lexus has to offer. The ES 350 I drove last summer had very similar highway manners but the Genesis has better dynamics and feel due to its rear wheel drive chassis."


But of course, a test drive of my own would be the only way to answer the questions for myself.





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Re: Used Vehicle Review: Lexus LS, 2007-2015
« Reply #218 on: March 28, 2016, 04:26:10 pm »
Lots of car for the money. The question, to my mind, is how it will hold up over the next 5 to 6 years. Seems conceivable that total ownership costs might not be considerably less than an LS.
I looked at this car...And passed because of the unknown of how it would hold up over the long haul

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Re: Used Vehicle Review: Lexus LS, 2007-2015
« Reply #219 on: March 29, 2016, 02:10:20 pm »
So I had a meeting scheduled in Barrie for late next week and moved it forward to today so I could check out the RSpec.

Just heading home now so can't type much, but wow that thing is a rocket!!