Author Topic: Manual take rate stats (Read 14979 times)

Blueprint · « **on:** January 27, 2016, 10:02:59 pm »

Post some manual take rates when you find them!

Found this for Subaru in Canada:

10% - Outback, Legacy, Forester
15% - Crosstrek
20% - Impreza
80% - BRZ
85% - WRX

pi314 · « **Reply #1 on:** January 27, 2016, 10:06:41 pm »

Higher than I expected! There's hope yet (until self-driving cars become a thing)
Disappointed with 15% of the WRX drivers though

johngenx · « **Reply #2 on:** January 27, 2016, 10:07:39 pm »

I'm surprised it's that low for the BRZ and WRX. Huh. No surprise for the Forester/OBW/Legacy - older buyers compared to the hot-rod models.

rrocket · « **Reply #3 on:** January 27, 2016, 10:16:50 pm »

Porsche 911 = ~20% (yes, that's right...~80% is PDK)

johngenx · « **Reply #4 on:** January 27, 2016, 10:19:21 pm »

Quote from: rrocket on January 27, 2016, 10:16:50 pm

Porsche 911 = ~20% (yes, that's right...~80% is PDK)

Many 911 owners I met were too weak to shift on their own anyway.

rrocket · « **Reply #5 on:** January 27, 2016, 10:19:50 pm »

Quote from: johngenx on January 27, 2016, 10:19:21 pm

Quote from: rrocket on January 27, 2016, 10:16:50 pm
Porsche 911 = ~20% (yes, that's right...~80% is PDK)

Many 911 owners I met were too weak to shift on their own anyway.

The PDK is REALLY good too though.

Firm · « **Reply #6 on:** January 27, 2016, 10:24:32 pm »

Quote from: johngenx on January 27, 2016, 10:07:39 pm

I'm surprised it's that low for the BRZ and WRX. Huh. No surprise for the Forester/OBW/Legacy - older buyers compared to the hot-rod models.

The BRZ I understand. There's a notable amount of older (retirement age) women in my area driving around in BRZs, and I bet most of them are auto.

HeliDriver · « **Reply #7 on:** January 27, 2016, 10:35:26 pm »

For VW, apparently GTI and Golf R are 50%. (And I'm doing my part!)

Found it interesting that Scion FR-S is only 70% vs. BRZ's 90%.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-drive/news/industry-news/the-shift-from-manual-why-the-demise-of-stick-shift-is-accelerating/article26795936/

OliverD · « **Reply #8 on:** January 27, 2016, 10:38:38 pm »

Quote from: rrocket on January 27, 2016, 10:16:50 pm

Porsche 911 = ~20% (yes, that's right...~80% is PDK)

Globally it's even less than that.

dkaz · « **Reply #9 on:** January 27, 2016, 10:43:41 pm »

The Mazda 5 was about 10-15% back in 2009.

Ford Fiesta was about 23% when it first came out.

rrocket · « **Reply #10 on:** January 27, 2016, 10:50:14 pm »

Ferrari. 0%

OliverD · « **Reply #11 on:** January 27, 2016, 10:53:24 pm »

Quote from: rrocket on January 27, 2016, 10:50:14 pm

Ferrari. 0%

Along with Lamborghini.

I wonder what the take rate it is on the ATS and F-type.

rrocket · « **Reply #12 on:** January 27, 2016, 10:55:20 pm »

Quote from: OliverD on January 27, 2016, 10:53:24 pm

Quote from: rrocket on January 27, 2016, 10:50:14 pm
Ferrari. 0%

Along with Lamborghini.

I wonder what the take rate it is on the ATS and F-type.

F-Type would heavily favor auto. Manual F-Type is too new IMO.

SaskSpecV · « **Reply #13 on:** January 28, 2016, 10:50:54 am »

Quote from: johngenx on January 27, 2016, 10:07:39 pm

No surprise for the Forester/OBW/Legacy - older buyers compared to the hot-rod models.

Sure, those vehicles don't lend themselves to the typical M/T crowd, but the stats are disingenuous. Most Subaru dealers don't carry Forester/OBW/Legacy in manual. Maybe it's because they refuse to order them in, or maybe it's because Subaru doesn't allocate many M/T models to North America.

I'm actually surprised that the M/T rate would be 10% for those vehicles, considering how difficult it was to find one when I was shopping.

Weels · « **Reply #14 on:** January 28, 2016, 10:55:10 am »

If I recall correctly, I think I read the expected manual take rate on the MX-5 is around 30% - 35% -- so, yeah roughly 2/3'rds automatic.
I did my part for the manual side.

Read another article somewhere earlier - around 5% of new car sales are manuals

HeliDriver · « **Reply #15 on:** January 28, 2016, 11:14:03 am »

Quote from: Weels on January 28, 2016, 10:55:10 am

If I recall correctly, I think I read the expected manual take rate on the MX-5 is around 30% - 35% -- so, yeah roughly 2/3'rds automatic.

For the Miata?!? Wow, that's depressing.

Sir Osis of Liver · « **Reply #16 on:** January 28, 2016, 11:21:01 am »

I'm guessing the Passat is somewhere around 33-50%. Because I have a manual and the other one or two they sold were likely automatics.

dkaz · « **Reply #17 on:** January 28, 2016, 11:30:20 am »

Interesting. The two MX-5s Kelowna Mazda had in the showroom were both manual.

Solstice2006 · « **Reply #18 on:** January 28, 2016, 11:57:41 am »

Quote from: Weels on January 28, 2016, 10:55:10 am

If I recall correctly, I think I read the expected manual take rate on the MX-5 is around 30% - 35% -- so, yeah roughly 2/3'rds automatic.
I did my part for the manual side.

Read another article somewhere earlier - around 5% of new car sales are manuals

Hard to find numbers are on this. Most of the ones I see are manuals. In Autotrader, it's about 50% auto. But you can just go by that...

Blueprint · « **Reply #19 on:** January 28, 2016, 12:05:43 pm »

Quote from: SaskSpecV on January 28, 2016, 10:50:54 am

Quote from: johngenx on January 27, 2016, 10:07:39 pm
No surprise for the Forester/OBW/Legacy - older buyers compared to the hot-rod models.

Sure, those vehicles don't lend themselves to the typical M/T crowd, but the stats are disingenuous. Most Subaru dealers don't carry Forester/OBW/Legacy in manual. Maybe it's because they refuse to order them in, or maybe it's because Subaru doesn't allocate many M/T models to North America.

I'm actually surprised that the M/T rate would be 10% for those vehicles, considering how difficult it was to find one when I was shopping.

I know at least two co-workers with manual Outbacks, and Subie always has one on display at the Montreal Auto Show. Ditto Forester.