Topic: No Mazda2 For You!

[Autos_Editor]

Mazda just dropped a bomb by announcing the removal of the Mazda2 from their Canadian lineup.
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[mixmanmash]

That's ok Mazda.  Just bring us the MX5 with the 1.5L and price it at the top of the line Mazda2 (around $20k) and all will be forigven.

[northsparrow]

This problem is easy to solve. Go down to your local Toyota dealer to pick up a spankin' new Yaris sedan and
on the way home stop by at the junk yard. Pull  the badge off the closest  wrecked Mazda you can find.

Attach the badge to your 'Yaris and your craving is satisfied.

[keithb]

Might open the door for Toyota to stick its badge on the car and market it here as they've done with sedan. At least one can hope.

[Blueprint]

That's ok Mazda.  Just bring us the MX5 with the 1.5L and price it at the top of the line Mazda2 (around $20k) and all will be forigven.

Make that 19,995$ 

Wind-up windows, stick only, steel rims - blank canvas.

[Solstice2006]

Thats really too bad.  Was looking forward to possibly leasing a Mazda2 Sport.  One of the better looking subcompacts..

[jamesautos]

now give us a CX-3 with a clutch

[Solstice2006]

now give us a CX-3 with a clutch

yeah, only $6-7k difference.... from the pricing of a Mazda2. 

[RoadRageous]

This problem is easy to solve. Go down to your local Toyota dealer to pick up a spankin' new Yaris sedan and
on the way home stop by at the junk yard. Pull  the badge off the closest  wrecked Mazda you can find.

Attach the badge to your 'Yaris and your craving is satisfied.

Yeah, except for the sheet metal, skyactive drivetrain, and "zoom zoom" err, driving matters, tuning.

Can't say I blame them, but I think they're missing an opprotunity to get first-time buyers into the brand.

[Kinetis]

Coincidence that Mazda announces this right before the Scion iR, city car, debuts at the LA auto show? Hmm..

[esiemens]

This problem is easy to solve. Go down to your local Toyota dealer to pick up a spankin' new Yaris sedan and
on the way home stop by at the junk yard. Pull  the badge off the closest  wrecked Mazda you can find.

Attach the badge to your 'Yaris and your craving is satisfied.

Yeah, except for the sheet metal, skyactive drivetrain, and "zoom zoom" err, driving matters, tuning.

Can't say I blame them, but I think they're missing an opprotunity to get first-time buyers into the brand.

Actually, the only thing that isn't a Mazda2 is the front fascia and the badging. Was wanting a Scion iA (US), but instead came to Canada as a Yaris Sedan. Both are just rebadged Mazda2 sedans, and the only diff between them is in the US the iA can come fully loaded with a stick, whereas here in Canada the Yaris Sedan only comes with a stick in the base model, leaving the 'Premium' model coming only with an auto  (A Mazda auto, but still really disappointed about that one)

I was looking at the Yaris, but prefer hatchbacks, so was going to wait for the Mazda2 to be released first...but that looks to no longer be an option....

[carcrazed]

There's always Honda fit, most popular subcompact AFAIK.

[Solstice2006]

There's always Honda fit, most popular subcompact AFAIK.

In Canada the Accent outsells it more than 2 to 1.  In the US, the Versa outsells almost 3 to 1.  But, in my IMO, out of the subcompacts available to us, the Fit is the best...

[Sir Osis of Liver]

There's always Honda fit, most popular subcompact AFAIK.

In Canada the Accent outsells it more than 2 to 1.  In the US, the Versa outsells almost 3 to 1.  But, in my IMO, out of the subcompacts available to us, the Fit is the best...

I never really got the relatively poor showing of the Fit in its class. But one day a co-worker mentioned that she didn't like it because "it looked like a little minivan". She might have been on to something.

Of course cheap financing and low prices of the competitors also likely has an impact.

[Noto]

Of course cheap financing and low prices of the competitors also likely has an impact.

^^ that was always my criticism.  To be $1,000 more than the competition in the frugal side of the market (i.e. cheapest cost of entries) is the wrong way to go.  Financing/MSRP are more important than anything else in the <$20,000 market.

[Arthur Dent]

The Fit is certainly a little dumpy looking not that any in the class are beauty queens. It has always been more of a premium cheap car if that makes any sense.

[Mike]

This problem is easy to solve. Go down to your local Toyota dealer to pick up a spankin' new Yaris sedan and
on the way home stop by at the junk yard. Pull  the badge off the closest  wrecked Mazda you can find.

Attach the badge to your 'Yaris and your craving is satisfied.

Yeah, except for the sheet metal, skyactive drivetrain, and "zoom zoom" err, driving matters, tuning.

Can't say I blame them, but I think they're missing an opprotunity to get first-time buyers into the brand.

Actually, the only thing that isn't a Mazda2 is the front fascia and the badging. Was wanting a Scion iA (US), but instead came to Canada as a Yaris Sedan. Both are just rebadged Mazda2 sedans, and the only diff between them is in the US the iA can come fully loaded with a stick, whereas here in Canada the Yaris Sedan only comes with a stick in the base model, leaving the 'Premium' model coming only with an auto  (A Mazda auto, but still really disappointed about that one)

I was looking at the Yaris, but prefer hatchbacks, so was going to wait for the Mazda2 to be released first...but that looks to no longer be an option....

Suspension, steering and transmission tuning all actually differ quite a bit between the Mazda2 and the Toyota versions. The Scion iA/Yaris Sedan are still fairly fun to drive, but they could be so much more as an actual Mazda2.

[RoadRageous]

This problem is easy to solve. Go down to your local Toyota dealer to pick up a spankin' new Yaris sedan and
on the way home stop by at the junk yard. Pull  the badge off the closest  wrecked Mazda you can find.

Attach the badge to your 'Yaris and your craving is satisfied.

Yeah, except for the sheet metal, skyactive drivetrain, and "zoom zoom" err, driving matters, tuning.

Can't say I blame them, but I think they're missing an opprotunity to get first-time buyers into the brand.

Actually, the only thing that isn't a Mazda2 is the front fascia and the badging. Was wanting a Scion iA (US), but instead came to Canada as a Yaris Sedan. Both are just rebadged Mazda2 sedans, and the only diff between them is in the US the iA can come fully loaded with a stick, whereas here in Canada the Yaris Sedan only comes with a stick in the base model, leaving the 'Premium' model coming only with an auto  (A Mazda auto, but still really disappointed about that one)

I was looking at the Yaris, but prefer hatchbacks, so was going to wait for the Mazda2 to be released first...but that looks to no longer be an option....

You are correct about the sheetmetal and drive train. Toyota only changed the fascias. If that means the pretty nice Mazda interior is there, then good move Toyota.

[Solstice2006]

Of course cheap financing and low prices of the competitors also likely has an impact.

^^ that was always my criticism.  To be $1,000 more than the competition in the frugal side of the market (i.e. cheapest cost of entries) is the wrong way to go.  Financing/MSRP are more important than anything else in the <$20,000 market.

Not just the MSRP.  But the great leasing programs from Nissan, KIA & Hyundai.  Looked at mid trim Accent auto, with tax, it was $235 a month for 24 months.  Less than $6000 to lease a car for 2 years.  Pretty tempting commuter vehicle...

[mixmanmash]

Of course cheap financing and low prices of the competitors also likely has an impact.

^^ that was always my criticism.  To be $1,000 more than the competition in the frugal side of the market (i.e. cheapest cost of entries) is the wrong way to go.  Financing/MSRP are more important than anything else in the <$20,000 market.

Not just the MSRP.  But the great leasing programs from Nissan, KIA & Hyundai.  Looked at mid trim Accent auto, with tax, it was $235 a month for 24 months.  Less than $6000 to lease a car for 2 years.  Pretty tempting commuter vehicle...

Wow, that is pretty tempting at that price.  I remember years ago when Ford & Chrysler had crazy lease deals.  My dad leased a 1998 Windstar for $6500 for 2 years, 18k kms/ year.  Only catch was you had to pay the whole amount up front.