Topic: Japanese RWD Triplets Could Get A Boost

[Autos_Editor]

Toyota has filed for a patent for what could possibly become a high-performance variant of the BR-Z/FR-S/GT-86 trio.
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[mixmanmash]

Interesting...

[Cord]

Are people still interested in these cars?

[johngenx]

Are people still interested in these cars?

Cult following.  Sales have dropped off as expected thanks to the narrow appeal of the car - but in terms of generating mojo, they've done lots.  One error I think Toyota made here was not badging it a Toyota 86.

A 400hp version with a Supra badge?  Since they have the platform it would be a logical refire.

[EV Dan]

Are people still interested in these cars?

Cult following.  Sales have dropped off as expected thanks to the narrow appeal of the car - but in terms of generating mojo, they've done lots.  One error I think Toyota made here was not badging it a Toyota 86.

A 400hp version with a Supra badge?  Since they have the platform it would be a logical refire.

IMHO it was a direct result of the car having a small NA engine and a relatively (for its horsepower) high price tag. Once I was interested in the tC and even test drove it coz it looked great on paper. FR-S though? I'd likely buy it despite a few obstacles if only it had 300hp. I owned an FJ at the time so the deal could've been done over an oil change 

[Blueprint]

Build one as a four-door coupe, seating five, and watch me spend money.

[Sir Osis of Liver]

Build one as a four-door coupe, seating five, and watch me spend money.

And that's the biggest issue with these cars, coupes aren't popular these days.

[Noto]

Build one as a four-door coupe, seating five, and watch me spend money.

They are as convertibles...

[EV-Light]

They are overpriced as is...wondering how much more a turbo boost would cost.


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[Fobroader]

When in doubt, LS swap it out

[rrocket]

When in doubt, LS swap it out

The only swap worth mentioning is 2JZ....

[Fobroader]

When in doubt, LS swap it out

The only swap worth mentioning is 2JZ....

Good thing you live in a Fast and Furious movie and have connections to get parts overnighted from Japan.

[rrocket]

When in doubt, LS swap it out

The only swap worth mentioning is 2JZ....

Good thing you live in a Fast and Furious movie and have connections to get parts overnighted from Japan.

You can still buy the parts from Toyota dealers. Even a block still!  ($2500)


You can go mild:   
https://youtu.be/ORlXjgMRbxw


Or wild!   https://youtu.be/wYUSPkssfIY

[Fobroader]

When in doubt, LS swap it out

The only swap worth mentioning is 2JZ....

Good thing you live in a Fast and Furious movie and have connections to get parts overnighted from Japan.

You can still buy the parts from Toyota dealers. Even a block still!  ($2500)

Round these parts, getting an LS is easier than getting meth south of the Mason Dixie line....a 2JZ, not so much.

[mixmanmash]

They are overpriced as is...wondering how much more a turbo boost would cost.


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A RWD, two seat, perfectly balanced 200 hp car for under $30K is overpriced?

200hp with 0 torque.  No thanks.  Not to mention you have to rev the out of it to get the 200hp.  Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if the 1.5T Civic is faster than the FRS/BRZ.  If it was about 250hp and 250lbft, then it would be good.

[mixmanmash]

When in doubt, LS swap it out

The only swap worth mentioning is 2JZ....

Good thing you live in a Fast and Furious movie and have connections to get parts overnighted from Japan.

You can still buy the parts from Toyota dealers. Even a block still!  ($2500)

Round these parts, getting an LS is easier than getting meth south of the Mason Dixie line....a 2JZ, not so much.

I would go LS just for the better weight balance than the 2JZ.

[mixmanmash]

They are overpriced as is...wondering how much more a turbo boost would cost.


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A RWD, two seat, perfectly balanced 200 hp car for under $30K is overpriced?

200hp with 0 torque.  No thanks.  Not to mention you have to rev the out of it to get the 200hp.  Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if the 1.5T Civic is faster than the FRS/BRZ.  If it was about 250hp and 250lbft, then it would be good.

But then it would be $40K.

How is Nissan doing a base 370Z for $30k?

[johngenx]

How is Nissan doing a base 370Z for $30k?

Old, old tooling and an engine shared across a lot of products and two brands.  Probably costs less to make a 370 than a BRZ.

I was "meh" when I read the specs for the BRZ and then anything but after I drove it.  Great car to drive, a lot of fun and so playful.  I can't recall a car set up from the factory with so much snap in the chassis.  And yeah, I'd still buy a Miata if I were spending the money 'cause I want an open car.

[johngenx]

The twins handle better FWIW.  Weight is thy enemy with a sports car.

Chris Harris' views: http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1078539_chris-harris-compares-the-scion-fr-s-to-the-nissan-370z-video

(He preferred the FRS)

Good luck making a list of cars that handle better than the FRS/BRZ/86 cars.  It's a short one.

[quadzilla]

Isn't the selection of 'cheap' RWD sport/sporty cars very limited?

FRS/BRZ
Miata
Mustang
Genesis

And don't they all start around 30K?