Quote from: Sir Osis of Liver on November 10, 2015, 10:50:01 amQuote from: Weels on November 09, 2015, 02:58:02 pmI didn't ask for this thing - did you ask for this thing??No sir. I most certainly did not!Don't lie, you're secretly ordering one of these once the lease on your X6 is up!!
Quote from: Weels on November 09, 2015, 02:58:02 pmI didn't ask for this thing - did you ask for this thing??No sir. I most certainly did not!
I didn't ask for this thing - did you ask for this thing??
Quote from: SaskSpecV on November 10, 2015, 10:20:25 amQuote from: Sir Osis of Liver on November 09, 2015, 04:47:25 pmOh and:"In a world where only 15% of SUV owners ever go off road, Jeep says 60% of Wrangler owners do; for Rubicon models, its 80%. Those percentages are the industry's highest, says Kevin Metz, Wrangler brand manager. (Next highest, he says, is the Hummer H3, at 30%.)" ConsumerGuide Automotive^ Edit: Dead linkThis is from 2013:"The last time we did research, 85 percent of Wrangler owners reported going off-road," said Jim Repp, vehicle development manager for the Wrangler.C'mon SirO, you're way too bright to be accepting a product management team's BS at face value! As Evil_twin noted, those numbers only serve to benefit Jeep. A "statistic" that the underlying methodology cannot readily be validated, coming from a non-objective source...how could it possibly be incorrect? The only time I ever truly believed the product development BS was when BMW planners said that 80% of 1-series owners thought their vehicle was FWD. I believed them, because why else would they intentionally want to destroy the credibility of the "ultimate driving machine" driver? Oh wait, it was just a way to justify the 1-series switch to a FWD platform.... OK, so I don't believe any statistics from product planners, ever!http://www.autoblog.com/2010/03/23/the-craziest-damn-thing-youll-hear-today-80-of-bmw-1-series-o/That's fair enough. But I think it still remains fair to say that a relatively high number of Wranglers will be taken off-road, much higher than typical CUVs in its price range certainly.A CRV isn't going to be on the cover of fourwheeler.
Quote from: Sir Osis of Liver on November 09, 2015, 04:47:25 pmOh and:"In a world where only 15% of SUV owners ever go off road, Jeep says 60% of Wrangler owners do; for Rubicon models, its 80%. Those percentages are the industry's highest, says Kevin Metz, Wrangler brand manager. (Next highest, he says, is the Hummer H3, at 30%.)" ConsumerGuide Automotive^ Edit: Dead linkThis is from 2013:"The last time we did research, 85 percent of Wrangler owners reported going off-road," said Jim Repp, vehicle development manager for the Wrangler.C'mon SirO, you're way too bright to be accepting a product management team's BS at face value! As Evil_twin noted, those numbers only serve to benefit Jeep. A "statistic" that the underlying methodology cannot readily be validated, coming from a non-objective source...how could it possibly be incorrect? The only time I ever truly believed the product development BS was when BMW planners said that 80% of 1-series owners thought their vehicle was FWD. I believed them, because why else would they intentionally want to destroy the credibility of the "ultimate driving machine" driver? Oh wait, it was just a way to justify the 1-series switch to a FWD platform.... OK, so I don't believe any statistics from product planners, ever!http://www.autoblog.com/2010/03/23/the-craziest-damn-thing-youll-hear-today-80-of-bmw-1-series-o/
Oh and:"In a world where only 15% of SUV owners ever go off road, Jeep says 60% of Wrangler owners do; for Rubicon models, its 80%. Those percentages are the industry's highest, says Kevin Metz, Wrangler brand manager. (Next highest, he says, is the Hummer H3, at 30%.)" ConsumerGuide Automotive^ Edit: Dead linkThis is from 2013:"The last time we did research, 85 percent of Wrangler owners reported going off-road," said Jim Repp, vehicle development manager for the Wrangler.
Quote from: Fobroader on November 09, 2015, 10:23:00 am After how horrid the Murano cabrio did, who thought this was a good idea?Just for you Fob!! I had to take a picture when I saw one (streets of Boston) - I figured it would be the only time I actually ever see a Murano Convertible in the wild.
After how horrid the Murano cabrio did, who thought this was a good idea?
looks like a decorated bathtub.
