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GM pays $900-million in U.S. criminal settlement over ignition switches
« on: September 17, 2015, 05:34:20 pm »
Toyota:
Deaths : 0
Fine: 1.2 billion

GM:
Deaths: 200+
Fine: 900 Million

Government Motors working for you.
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Re: GM pays $900-million in U.S. criminal settlement over ignition switches
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2015, 05:34:57 pm »
Quote from: Snowman on September 17, 2015, 05:34:20 pm
Toyota:
Deaths : 0
Fine: 1.2 billion

GM:
Deaths: 200+
Fine: 900 Million

Government Motors working for you.

Yep.
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Re: GM pays $900-million in U.S. criminal settlement over ignition switches
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2015, 05:38:21 pm »
you didn't include a link, but i have a question.

was Toyota fined $1.2 Billion?

was GM fined $900 million, or did they settle for $900 million.

big difference depending on the context.
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Re: GM pays $900-million in U.S. criminal settlement over ignition switches
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2015, 05:40:37 pm »
Quote from: dirtyjeffer on September 17, 2015, 05:38:21 pm
you didn't include a link, but i have a question.

was Toyota fined $1.2 Billion?

was GM fined $900 million, or did they settle for $900 million.

big difference depending on the context.

FINED
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Re: GM pays $900-million in U.S. criminal settlement over ignition switches
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2015, 05:51:39 pm »
Quote from: rrocket on September 17, 2015, 05:40:37 pm
Quote from: dirtyjeffer on September 17, 2015, 05:38:21 pm
you didn't include a link, but i have a question.

was Toyota fined $1.2 Billion?

was GM fined $900 million, or did they settle for $900 million.

big difference depending on the context.

FINED
ok, that clears it up then.

odd how there is such a difference...hmmmm.
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Re: GM pays $900-million in U.S. criminal settlement over ignition switches
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2015, 05:56:19 pm »
Unfair.
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Re: GM pays $900-million in U.S. criminal settlement over ignition switches
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2015, 05:56:40 pm »
Quote from: dirtyjeffer on September 17, 2015, 05:51:39 pm
Quote from: rrocket on September 17, 2015, 05:40:37 pm
Quote from: dirtyjeffer on September 17, 2015, 05:38:21 pm
you didn't include a link, but i have a question.

was Toyota fined $1.2 Billion?

was GM fined $900 million, or did they settle for $900 million.

big difference depending on the context.

FINED
ok, that clears it up then.

odd how there is such a difference...hmmmm.

Not odd at all.  The fix is in.  Many of us knew this from day one of the whole UA myth. 
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Re: GM pays $900-million in U.S. criminal settlement over ignition switches
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2015, 06:32:25 pm »
They are paying another 575m for the civil law suit have put 600m in the victim fund paid 40m for another case related to this. In addition they spent $4.1 billion on the recall.

Hopefully they will pay more attention to QA in the future to avoid a repeat.



Toyota still got screwed as I have one of the cars that was a part of the recall and atleast in my model it was never a defect
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Re: GM pays $900-million in U.S. criminal settlement over ignition switches
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2015, 06:39:02 pm »
Toyota did have deaths, but nowhere near that number.

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Re: GM pays $900-million in U.S. criminal settlement over ignition switches
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2015, 06:49:13 pm »
Quote from: Blueprint on September 17, 2015, 06:39:02 pm
Toyota did have deaths, but nowhere near that number.



IIRC, the deaths were from morons stacking floor mats and pinning the gas pedal.  Not from UA.
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Re: GM pays $900-million in U.S. criminal settlement over ignition switches
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2015, 07:00:35 pm »
Quote from: rrocket on September 17, 2015, 06:49:13 pm
Quote from: Blueprint on September 17, 2015, 06:39:02 pm
Toyota did have deaths, but nowhere near that number.



IIRC, the deaths were from morons stacking floor mats and pinning the gas pedal.  Not from UA.

IIRC, the UA claims were indeed related to floor mats, at least at first, hence the floor mat recall.
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Re: GM pays $900-million in U.S. criminal settlement over ignition switches
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2015, 07:35:52 pm »
Quote from: Blueprint on September 17, 2015, 07:00:35 pm
Quote from: rrocket on September 17, 2015, 06:49:13 pm
Quote from: Blueprint on September 17, 2015, 06:39:02 pm
Toyota did have deaths, but nowhere near that number.



IIRC, the deaths were from morons stacking floor mats and pinning the gas pedal.  Not from UA.

IIRC, the UA claims were indeed related to floor mats, at least at first, hence the floor mat recall.
If you cannot take care of your floor mats you should not be driving
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GM pays $900-million in U.S. criminal settlement over ignition switches
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2015, 11:36:38 pm »
Remembering a bit about the Toyota recalls...I just can't shake off the incident with a police patrol driving a Lexus couldn't shift the car to Neutral....


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