Topic: Test Drive: 2015 BMW M235i

[Fobroader]

So you pay $20k more for above average.....wow....great deal 

[Sir Osis of Liver]

Reliability above average 

M235 is "too new".

[OliverD]

So you pay $20k more for above average.....wow....great deal 

Didn't we already determine that it isn't $20k more?

[Snowman]

Reliability above average 

M235 is "too new".

Its based on a brand trend 

[Hannibalsmith]

snowman, i just test drove this car with my buddy.  it rocks.  best bmw imo.  i love that it's small, unassuming, but very quick.  it just seems to scream fun and nobody knows why you're smiling so much.

Can you imagine what the M2 will be like?

[Triple Bob]

So you pay $20k more for above average.....wow....great deal 

Didn't we already determine that it isn't $20k more?

Don't let facts get in the way of a good internet argument. 

[DriverJeff]

So you pay $20k more for above average.....wow....great deal 

 

[DriverJeff]

Reliability above average 

M235 is "too new".

But you *know* the brand new 2015 Mustang will be more reliable than the BMW?  How so, oh mighty soothsayer? 

[Sir Osis of Liver]

Reliability above average 

M235 is "too new".

But you *know* the brand new 2015 Mustang will be more reliable than the BMW?  How so, oh mighty soothsayer?

I don't "know", but, turbo BMWs have a poor history. V8 Mustangs typically have complaints about the MFT and trim bits. I'd rather get a door pull fixed than replace a HPFP or twin scroll turbo.

[Snowman]

  lets not talk about the POS MT-82 manual tranny on the GT.

[Fobroader]

lets not talk about the POS MT-82 manual tranny on the GT.

A better tranny is still cheaper than a turbo for the BMW and is a permanent fix and an upgrade.

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[Snowman]

lets not talk about the POS MT-82 manual tranny on the GT.

A better tranny is still cheaper than a turbo for the BMW and is a permanent fix and an upgrade.

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[Fobroader]

lets not talk about the POS MT-82 manual tranny on the GT.

A better tranny is still cheaper than a turbo for the BMW and is a permanent fix and an upgrade.

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Link 

http://americanpowertrain.com/c-400678-transmission-kits-ford-2005-13-mustang.html

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[Snowman]

lets not talk about the POS MT-82 manual tranny on the GT.

A better tranny is still cheaper than a turbo for the BMW and is a permanent fix and an upgrade.

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Link 

http://americanpowertrain.com/c-400678-transmission-kits-ford-2005-13-mustang.html

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I can buy an aftermarket turbo for under a  grand.

[Fobroader]

lets not talk about the POS MT-82 manual tranny on the GT.

A better tranny is still cheaper than a turbo for the BMW and is a permanent fix and an upgrade.

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Link 

http://americanpowertrain.com/c-400678-transmission-kits-ford-2005-13-mustang.html

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I can buy an aftermarket turbo for under a  grand.

Then tuning and making it fit?? Plus a better FMIC, then you might as well upgrade the injectors and get a better clutch..... who gets an aftermarket turbo and leaves the vehicle stock?? I'm talking about muppets who will go to the dealer and get bent over by your local dealers FGC parts pros.

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[DriverJeff]

lets not talk about the POS MT-82 manual tranny on the GT.

A better tranny is still cheaper than a turbo for the BMW and is a permanent fix and an upgrade.

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Link 

http://americanpowertrain.com/c-400678-transmission-kits-ford-2005-13-mustang.html

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I can buy an aftermarket turbo for under a  grand.

Then tuning and making it fit?? Plus a better FMIC, then you might as well upgrade the injectors and get a better clutch..... who gets an aftermarket turbo and leaves the vehicle stock?? I'm talking about muppets who will go to the dealer and get bent over by your local dealers FGC parts pros.

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I never once felt like I was being "bent over" by the dealer when going in for any warranty work.  That's the nice part of warranty work -- the lack of bill at the end. 

[johngenx]

Can't say about BMW, but omg, I can only say amazing things about warranty work/coverage when I owned Mercedes models.  Dealers would go over the car with a fine-toothed comb and look for every little thing they could do - they get (used to anyway...) paid full retail for warranty work so they never skimped on it.  And MB Canada was VERY generous with authorizing significant repairs.

As soon as the warranty was up, I was off to my trusted indie.

[Snowman]

Yep, my Audi dealer insisted they change all the brakes, rotors, and pads despite my protest. It was a factory upgrade to deal with the noise complaints from the glazed rotors.