Topic: Stuff I see.

[Jamie1]

Not buying anGC diesel...ever!!!

Quite a few vehicles require work like this to do engine work. Most Ford pick-up trucks require the cab to be lifted off to do a lot of engine work.

[revalations]

My Uncle had a V10 Touareg. Water pump began to leak and that requires engine removal as it's a the back of the engine. The estimate to bring that Vdub up to snuff was over 20K, plenty of ''while we're in there'' repairs were in that quote. He promptly sold it.

[rrocket]

My Uncle had a V10 Touareg. Water pump began to leak and that requires engine removal as it's a the back of the engine. The estimate to bring that Vdub up to snuff was over 20K, plenty of ''while we're in there'' repairs were in that quote. He promptly sold it.

VW charges 30 hours for removal/replace!

People in their own garage with no special tools can do it in about 10 or so.

Overcharge much?

[ltruong]

My Uncle had a V10 Touareg. Water pump began to leak and that requires engine removal as it's a the back of the engine. The estimate to bring that Vdub up to snuff was over 20K, plenty of ''while we're in there'' repairs were in that quote. He promptly sold it.

VW charges 30 hours for removal/replace!

People in their own garage with no special tools can do it in about 10 or so.

Overcharge much?

I can see if you have a bunch of toys and a proper garage for mechanic but this is not the type of stuff you do with a six pack and my mastercraft kit.  You need air tools and whisky

[dirtyjeffer]

My Uncle had a V10 Touareg. Water pump began to leak and that requires engine removal as it's a the back of the engine. The estimate to bring that Vdub up to snuff was over 20K, plenty of ''while we're in there'' repairs were in that quote. He promptly sold it.

VW charges 30 hours for removal/replace!

People in their own garage with no special tools can do it in about 10 or so.

Overcharge much?

I can see if you have a bunch of toys and a proper garage for mechanic but this is not the type of stuff you do with a six pack and my mastercraft kit.  You need air tools and whisky

back in the days, i worked at a machine shop where we rebuilt engines (among other things)...for a regular car (domestic, V6 or V8), you could drop it off at 8am and pick it up at 5pm...we'd pull the engine, strip it down to a bare block with every nut/bolt removed...acid bath, bore out the cylinder walls, replace all the main parts (cams, pistons, rings, bearings, gaskets, water pump, lifters, full valve job, plane the head if needed) and put everything back together in a day...ah, the good old days. 

[marcus_go]

My Uncle had a V10 Touareg. Water pump began to leak and that requires engine removal as it's a the back of the engine. The estimate to bring that Vdub up to snuff was over 20K, plenty of ''while we're in there'' repairs were in that quote. He promptly sold it.

VW charges 30 hours for removal/replace!

People in their own garage with no special tools can do it in about 10 or so.

Overcharge much?

I can see if you have a bunch of toys and a proper garage for mechanic but this is not the type of stuff you do with a six pack and my mastercraft kit.  You need air tools and whisky

Yeah, that V10 TDI was quite the marvel back in the day but big $$$ if anything needs doing. Way over the top in complexity. I remember talking to a VW tech a few years back and he told me the engine quite often would need to be removed to do repairs.

I wonder if the GC with the turbo issue was one of the older Mercedes powered units or a newer Ecodiesel?

[ltruong]

My Uncle had a V10 Touareg. Water pump began to leak and that requires engine removal as it's a the back of the engine. The estimate to bring that Vdub up to snuff was over 20K, plenty of ''while we're in there'' repairs were in that quote. He promptly sold it.

VW charges 30 hours for removal/replace!

People in their own garage with no special tools can do it in about 10 or so.

Overcharge much?

I can see if you have a bunch of toys and a proper garage for mechanic but this is not the type of stuff you do with a six pack and my mastercraft kit.  You need air tools and whisky

back in the days, i worked at a machine shop where we rebuilt engines (among other things)...for a regular car (domestic, V6 or V8), you could drop it off at 8am and pick it up at 5pm...we'd pull the engine, strip it down to a bare block with every nut/bolt removed...acid bath, bore out the cylinder walls, replace all the main parts (cams, pistons, rings, bearings, gaskets, water pump, lifters, full valve job, plane the head if needed) and put everything back together in a day...ah, the good old days. 

Nice!  back in the days I've help put in or removed quite a few engine off American sport cars or trucks.  They were easy to work on since you had so much room under the hood.

[dirtyjeffer]

My Uncle had a V10 Touareg. Water pump began to leak and that requires engine removal as it's a the back of the engine. The estimate to bring that Vdub up to snuff was over 20K, plenty of ''while we're in there'' repairs were in that quote. He promptly sold it.

VW charges 30 hours for removal/replace!

People in their own garage with no special tools can do it in about 10 or so.

Overcharge much?

I can see if you have a bunch of toys and a proper garage for mechanic but this is not the type of stuff you do with a six pack and my mastercraft kit.  You need air tools and whisky

back in the days, i worked at a machine shop where we rebuilt engines (among other things)...for a regular car (domestic, V6 or V8), you could drop it off at 8am and pick it up at 5pm...we'd pull the engine, strip it down to a bare block with every nut/bolt removed...acid bath, bore out the cylinder walls, replace all the main parts (cams, pistons, rings, bearings, gaskets, water pump, lifters, full valve job, plane the head if needed) and put everything back together in a day...ah, the good old days. 

Nice!  back in the days I've help put in or removed quite a few engine off American sport cars or trucks.  They were easy to work on since you had so much room under the hood.

yea, most of the vehicles we did were mid to late 80s domestic vehicles...Olds, Chevy, Buick  sedans with V6 engines...Blazers with V6s...pick up trucks with Ford or Chevy V8s...the parts were easy to get and relatives cheap...we could get all the needed parts for a 350 Chevy for about $300.

[PJungnitsch]

Not buying anGC diesel...ever!!!

Quite a few vehicles require work like this to do engine work. Most Ford pick-up trucks require the cab to be lifted off to do a lot of engine work.

Yeah, they are pretty much a cabover, without the handy access plate on the inside of the cab.

[Ex-airbalancer]

I would what it was to work  on the old vans , when the engine was in in side the passenger area 

[dkaz]

Lol oh Previa.



Thankfully with the 2nd gen Previas that never made it to North America, they moved the engine to the front, although still not nice to work on. You thought the rear spark plugs in the Sienna was difficult to get into?

[Arthur Dent]

Pretty much any V6 minivan is not nice to change the rear spark plugs.

[aquadorhj]

Pretty much any V6 minivan is not nice to change the rear spark plugs.

unless it's benz and its longitudinal engine. 

but yeah, agree.  chevy venture was the worst car i've ever worked on.

[Arthur Dent]

Pretty much any V6 minivan is not nice to change the rear spark plugs.

unless it's benz and its longitudinal engine. 

but yeah, agree.  chevy venture was the worst car i've ever worked on.

The Benz probably has at least three special tools required though! 

[revalations]

Had a previa years ago. One of my favorite minivans just for its uniqueness. Noisy, underpowered, and always felt like tipping over but it was reliable.

[dkaz]

Until the head gasket went.  Typically north of 300,000km.

[Jamie1]

My Uncle had a V10 Touareg. Water pump began to leak and that requires engine removal as it's a the back of the engine. The estimate to bring that Vdub up to snuff was over 20K, plenty of ''while we're in there'' repairs were in that quote. He promptly sold it.

VW charges 30 hours for removal/replace!

People in their own garage with no special tools can do it in about 10 or so.

Overcharge much?

I was curious about this, so I looked up the labour time. We use Identifix which has Chilton and Motor labour times. Labour was 4.7hrs. The water pump is listed as being in the front of the engine. Now I have never seen a VW V10 TDI so I have no idea if this is correct,but Identifix does use the manufactures service manuals.

[Jamie1]

Lol oh Previa.



Thankfully with the 2nd gen Previas that never made it to North America, they moved the engine to the front, although still not nice to work on. You thought the rear spark plugs in the Sienna was difficult to get into?

I was at an event this weekend with my Miata club sponsored by Hagerty. It was to get young drivers interested in driving manuals. Anyway, there were not one, but four of these MGFs. Never seen or heard of them before. It is a mid engine. The opening is about big enough to add oil. I suspect most any engine work would involve engine removal.

[dirtyjeffer]

i had an old Chevy van back in the day (i think it was a 1980 model)...the "hood" was about a foot long and the engine was essentially where your cup holders are in a modern car (somewhat between the seats, but a bit more forward)...i can't imagine that was easy to work on.

[Arthur Dent]

Those MG Fs were very cool.

Speaking of easy to work on. I was bolting in the brake master cylinder into the 61 Pontiac for the last time I hope. Two of the bolts are hard to reach. I had to climb into the engine bay and rest my knee on the valve cover to get to them. My wife walks in the garage and says "I thought that car was supposed to be easy to work on".