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Offline rrocket

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Re: Found On The Internet - II
« Reply #4120 on: February 13, 2019, 05:11:56 pm »
There one on Kijiji with a 2JZ in it....
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Re: Found On The Internet - II
« Reply #4121 on: February 13, 2019, 05:13:48 pm »
Quote from: rrocket on February 13, 2019, 05:11:56 pm
There one on Kijiji with a 2JZ in it....

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Wonder if they find that better or worse than an LS swap??
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Re: Found On The Internet - II
« Reply #4122 on: February 13, 2019, 05:18:42 pm »
Quote from: Fobroader on February 13, 2019, 05:13:48 pm


Wonder if they find that better or worse than an LS swap??

Proper LS swaps are NOT cheap.  People think they are cheap, but a decent LS costs big bucks.  Have read many, many horror story LS swaps.

A standard 2JZ block is good for almost 1000HP with stock components.....Best part is you can still buy brand new short blocks from Toyota for $2500 if you somehow needed a new one.

"Better or worse"?  I'd say you might have some constraints with the length of the I6....a 2JZ is about 2-3" longer than an LS.  But FFS...I've seen 2JZ in S2000s....so I guess almost anything is possible!
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Re: Found On The Internet - II
« Reply #4123 on: February 13, 2019, 05:34:47 pm »
You have to think of an LS swap as a way to change the character of a car and replace an OE engine that has too many issues to contend with.  It's NOT a "cheap upgrade" project.

Take the 996 911.  Guys think an IMS nuked car is a perfect candidate for an LS swap.  Sure, if you're ready to spend MORE than going with an IMS-solved 911 engine.  By the time you buy a solid LS and sort out all the issues with the swap (and yes, the kits all require a LOT of work to install) you're not saving a dime, and you're probably out a bunch more dough.

I love the FD RX-7, agree it's one of the best looking cars to every be loaded on a boat from Japan, and in many ways it's a prime LS swap candidate.  The LS is compact and light, keeping the RX from gaining too much weight.  But, don't think it's a way to fix a broken RX-7 on a budget.  It will cost a lot.
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Re: Found On The Internet - II
« Reply #4124 on: February 13, 2019, 05:38:35 pm »
With a welder and a plasma cutter you can mainly make any engine fit into any car, I mean Roadkill shoved a 440...or 454, into a Samurai. No, a good, performance LS is not cheap. Everyone thinks a 5.3 truck engine from the scrapyard for $1000, but, thats not the engine you should be shoving into an RX7.
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Re: Found On The Internet - II
« Reply #4125 on: February 13, 2019, 05:50:27 pm »
Quote from: Fobroader on February 13, 2019, 05:38:35 pm
Everyone thinks a 5.3 truck engine from the scrapyard for $1000, but, thats not the engine you should be shoving into an RX7.

4.8 and 5.3s are iron engines and too heavy for the RX-7.  A nice LS3 is the real deal, but you're going to be out some real money.  A basic crate is about $10K.
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Re: Found On The Internet - II
« Reply #4126 on: February 13, 2019, 06:02:09 pm »
Quote from: Fobroader on February 13, 2019, 05:38:35 pm
Everyone thinks a 5.3 truck engine from the scrapyard for $1000, but, thats not the engine you should be shoving into an RX7.

I remember an article of someone doing a swap and they got an engine from a wrecked C5 Corvette.  Cost a bundle!
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Re: Found On The Internet - II
« Reply #4127 on: February 13, 2019, 06:20:28 pm »
Quote from: rrocket on February 13, 2019, 06:02:09 pm
Quote from: Fobroader on February 13, 2019, 05:38:35 pm
Everyone thinks a 5.3 truck engine from the scrapyard for $1000, but, thats not the engine you should be shoving into an RX7.

I remember an article of someone doing a swap and they got an engine from a wrecked C5 Corvette.  Cost a bundle!

Even a C5 thats been wrecked isnt a value proposition
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Re: Found On The Internet - II
« Reply #4128 on: February 13, 2019, 06:24:55 pm »
Quote from: Fobroader on February 13, 2019, 06:20:28 pm
Quote from: rrocket on February 13, 2019, 06:02:09 pm
Quote from: Fobroader on February 13, 2019, 05:38:35 pm
Everyone thinks a 5.3 truck engine from the scrapyard for $1000, but, thats not the engine you should be shoving into an RX7.

I remember an article of someone doing a swap and they got an engine from a wrecked C5 Corvette.  Cost a bundle!

Even a C5 thats been wrecked isnt a value proposition

That's the thing, right?  You never know.  And that's where the horror stories come from.

Whereas the 2JZ (or an old Jeep I6 for example) are near bullet proof...even ones from a wreck.

I daydream about "2JZ-ing" one of the 4.5L Toyota I6s....like how much boost/HP could one of those things hold?
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Re: Found On The Internet - II
« Reply #4129 on: February 15, 2019, 01:56:12 pm »


https://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/calgary/2017-fiat-spider-124-convertible-149-b-w-instant-approval/1394479997?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

$22k for almost new 2017 Fiat Spider ...

Does this seem super cheap? The dealership looks like one of those re-building credit type places which makes the low price even more puzzling.
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Re: Found On The Internet - II
« Reply #4130 on: February 15, 2019, 06:41:27 pm »
^^ That very Fiat shows up on my dealer auction site with a price of $20,900. There is one with 200km on it as well for $22,900. A few brand new ones with under 100k in the 30-40 range. Which is more, Lusso or Abarth??
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Re: Found On The Internet - II
« Reply #4131 on: February 15, 2019, 07:04:39 pm »
Abarth or nothing with the 124, and even then only with mods

Fiat screwed it up.
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Re: Found On The Internet - II
« Reply #4132 on: February 20, 2019, 09:04:26 pm »
Nice to see an unrestored Duster without rusty quarters.  Even with the 318, it still would be a fun car.  I know I had lots of fun with my 318-powered '72 Dart Swinger.

1971 Plymouth Duster Twister UNRESTORED Survivor - $13500 (Saint Joseph)
https://swmi.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-joseph-1971-plymouth-duster/6821163026.html


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Re: Found On The Internet - II
« Reply #4133 on: February 20, 2019, 09:13:15 pm »
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Re: Found On The Internet - II
« Reply #4134 on: February 20, 2019, 09:15:55 pm »
Quote from: Arthur Dent on February 15, 2019, 01:56:12 pm


https://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/calgary/2017-fiat-spider-124-convertible-149-b-w-instant-approval/1394479997?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

$22k for almost new 2017 Fiat Spider ...

Does this seem super cheap? The dealership looks like one of those re-building credit type places which makes the low price even more puzzling.

That's not bad. That is a lot of depreciation though.

I found the MSRP just too stiff.
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Re: Found On The Internet - II
« Reply #4135 on: February 20, 2019, 09:47:56 pm »
^^It's hard on the eyes though!

Miata looks much better.
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Re: Found On The Internet - II
« Reply #4136 on: February 21, 2019, 08:59:40 pm »
Quote from: rrocket on February 20, 2019, 09:47:56 pm
^^It's hard on the eyes though!

Miata looks much better.

I love the 124.  I think the Miata looks tortured.

PS - a FB buddy of mine just bought an Abarth 124.
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Re: Found On The Internet - II
« Reply #4137 on: February 21, 2019, 09:01:31 pm »
Quote from: Scaerio on February 21, 2019, 08:59:40 pm


PS - a FB buddy of mine just bought an Abarth 124.

Is this him?


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Re: Found On The Internet - II
« Reply #4138 on: February 21, 2019, 09:09:23 pm »
LOL!  You can keep your MX-5 with its squinty little piggy-eyed headlights.
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Re: Found On The Internet - II
« Reply #4139 on: February 21, 2019, 09:24:04 pm »
I agree the Abarth 124 looks better than the Miata...but it still has its issues, mainly to do with the power and the exhaust. Both need lots more.
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