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First Drive: 2015 Ford Edge
« on: March 18, 2015, 06:30:58 am »

Ford's Edge changed and improved from front camera to rear camera.
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Re: First Drive: 2015 Ford Edge
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2015, 07:01:34 am »
I think the biggest selling feature for this vehicle is you don't have any of those god aweful Matthew McConaughey commercials. :rofl2:

This truck looks good but I just don't trust Ford's Ecoboost fuel efficiency claim.  As one of the car mags say, you can have either "Eco" or "boost" but not both.

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Re: First Drive: 2015 Ford Edge
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2015, 08:23:13 am »
I would have thought the Q5  would have been a competitor although most Q5s are more expensive that the Edge AWD Sport I could imagine cross shopping.
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Re: First Drive: 2015 Ford Edge
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2015, 08:35:35 am »
I would have thought the Q5  would have been a competitor although most Q5s are more expensive that the Edge AWD Sport I could imagine cross shopping.

Interesting thought.  You're not wrong..., but then so too could the GLK, X3, etc. I suppose.  The list is a big one for potential competitors, and of course it depends on the trim level too.  A base model FWD Edge SE is competing against different cars than the top level Sport. 



As for the EcoBoost efficiency concerns, I hear ya JohnnyMac.  My experience with small displacement engines with hard working turbos is that you need to have a stiff tailwind and be travelling at the speed limit down hill to achieve the claimed highway mileage.  The Edge -- even with the 2.7L engine -- surprised me with how efficient it proved to be, despite my co driver and I pushing it pretty hard. 
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Re: First Drive: 2015 Ford Edge
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2015, 09:13:30 am »
Sounds like a very successful update that will keep the vehicle competitive. REALLY too bad, however, that Ford decided to play around with the engine options. The 2.7 is a jewel - that's quite obvious. One has to pay, however, almost $50,000 (incl. freight) to avail of this motor. Ridiculous. A $35,000 Edge with the 2.7 would blow everything in its price range out of the water on virtually every criteria. Now, at close to $50,000, it's playing with intense competition and some better vehicles.

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Re: First Drive: 2015 Ford Edge
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2015, 09:21:03 am »
Sounds like a very successful update that will keep the vehicle competitive. REALLY too bad, however, that Ford decided to play around with the engine options. The 2.7 is a jewel - that's quite obvious. One has to pay, however, almost $50,000 (incl. freight) to avail of this motor. Ridiculous. A $35,000 Edge with the 2.7 would blow everything in its price range out of the water on virtually every criteria. Now, at close to $50,000, it's playing with intense competition and some better vehicles.

Except... as I mustn't have made clear in my story... the 2L twin-scroll EcoBoost does just fine in the Edge.  I expect most Edge buyers will be more than pleased with this set up.

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Re: First Drive: 2015 Ford Edge
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2015, 09:32:57 am »
I think it's going to be a huge success for Ford.
1) Bigger but not more expensive
2) Shed weight
3) Competent engines (not underpowered)
4) Ford listened to the customers and added buttons to the centre console  :thumbup:
5) Improved insulation
6) Better quality of materials
7) Better suspension and hence much improved handling
8) Improved electric steering

If this is not a formula to success then I don't know what is. And if it proves to be decently reliable, Ford deserves to be rewarded for the effort.

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Re: First Drive: 2015 Ford Edge
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2015, 09:57:19 am »
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Front and rear occupants will appreciate a greatly enhanced level of quality in terms of materials used and their fitment throughout the interior.
How is the centre stack in person?  It looks like a really, really cheap effort from photos:


Definitely doesn't scream $50,000 to me, though the mechanicals 'might'.

That's actually always been my criticism of Ford/Lincolns - the centre stack just doesn't look right...flat/blank areas, overwrought with plastic, sometimes shiny, sometimes matte, but never to the quality of its competition.  E.g. Murano:


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Thanks to its abundance of torque and notable improvement in fuel efficiency, the 2 L EcoBoost should render the V6 option redundant for most buyers.
As for the engine choices, this is exactly what I mean regarding the Mustang:
You have 3 choices for the pony: 300hp, 310hp, or 435hp.
You have 3 choices for the Edge: 245hp, 280hp, or 315hp.

Torque figures are obviously more tell-tale here, but I think Ford needs to either limit the choices or differentiate them further.  My $0.02, but I wouldn't spend the money on the V6 where I'd get an extra 35hp, but at a loss of 25lb-ft of torque over the 2.0T.  If I wanted MOAR POWAH, the 2.7T is there and makes a helluva lot of sense.  But the 2.0T and the 3.5L V6 are too similar to me, as far as power output is concerned (yes, I know...fuel economy, premium fuel, smoothness, blah blah blah).  Stop thinking like an autos.ca forum poster and start thinking like a casual consumer...I pushed for the Corolla XRS back in the day, but mi papa said "132hp to 156hp...why bother?"  There is a cost to Ford for having more production lines than fewer.

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It should be noted that the Sport trim’s optional 22-inch wheels are no longer available – the largest wheel bling available for the 2015 Edge is “only” 21-inch, since too many customers complained about the ride on the 22’s.
That's fantastic!  I mean, 21" is ridiculous, too, but at least they realized that bigger does not always equal better.

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A base model, FWD SE-trim Edge starts at $31,999
That seems a bit high to me, but I haven't the time to check all of the competitors.  IIRC, the Murano starts far cheaper than this does and comes standard with the 3.5L V6.

The 6-speed auto seems a bit dated to me (I can't believe I just said that...) and given Ford's priority for fuel economy, I'm surprised that it hasn't jumped the ZF 8-speed bandwagon...?!

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first, what’s taken so long for a manufacturer to do this and two, why not apply this to the rear camera too where our salty winter roads render back-up cameras useless? Ford’s answer to the latter question is that it’s coming
That seems half-assed to me.  Why have one without the other when there's full intention to bring it later?  It's just unfinished and leaves me with thoughts of the Ford of yore where reliability and short-cuts were seemingly not priorities.  I'm not calling this one unreliable, but the thought of cost-cutting lingers in my mind for a $33k-50k vehicle.  Not good.

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now featuring both parallel and perpendicular parking assist for the first time.
First time in the Edge, maybe, but the Focus, C-Max, and Escape all have that feature.

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Some fine-tuning is likely to apply to a few other areas of the new Edge, like the dash-top trim section that had come unglued and popped up on both Sport trim vehicles we were in. Surely this can be chalked up to the pre-production vehicles we drove for this test and not an indicator of future worrisome assembly from our friends at the Oakville, Ontario plant who build the Edge.
I fricken hope you're correct!  :| that's unnerving!!

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2015 Ford Edge Fuel Economy
Trim   Engine   Transmission   City L/100km   Hwy L/100km
Edge FWD   2.0L – I4 GTDI   6-Speed SST   11.5   7.8
Edge FWD   3.5L – V6   6-Speed SST   13.2   9
Edge AWD   2.0L – I4 GTDI   6-Speed SST   11.8   8.4
Edge Sport AWD   2.7L – V6 GTDI   6-Speed SST   13.6   9.8
Edge AWD   3.5L – V6   6-Speed SST   13.7   9.6
This suggests that you can't get the 3.5L with AWD...that can't be true...can it?!?!?!?

Great article, Jeff, lovely photos, and again, much thanks for all the work you do (including Descending!!)

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Re: First Drive: 2015 Ford Edge
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2015, 10:11:24 am »
How is the centre stack in person? 
Definitely doesn't scream $50,000 to me, though the mechanicals 'might'.

It's funny, looking back at the photos now, I see how the matte finish on the main dash panel would make you say that.  The overall feel of the interior is quite good.  I suspect this comes down more to personal taste than anything.  They could've just as easily covered that expanse with piano-finish and it'd be covered in fingerprints and smudges and 10 minutes.  Pick your poison.


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As for the engine choices, this is exactly what I mean regarding the Mustang:
You have 3 choices for the pony: 300hp, 310hp, or 435hp.
You have 3 choices for the Edge: 245hp, 280hp, or 315hp.

The simple answer is, Ford has a pile of leftover 3.5s they need to get rid of.  This engine won't be around much longer I suspect.
That said, the Edge launches next year in Europe and will have a new 2L Diesel option.  Would be interesting to see that one come here.

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A base model, FWD SE-trim Edge starts at $31,999
That seems a bit high to me, but I haven't the time to check all of the competitors.  IIRC, the Murano starts far cheaper than this does and comes standard with the 3.5L V6.

Yeah, Nissan got aggressive with that Murano.  $29,999 says the website.  Not sure how the trims / features compare.

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now featuring both parallel and perpendicular parking assist for the first time.
First time in the Edge, maybe, but the Focus, C-Max, and Escape all have that feature.

According to the Ford folks who were really excited about this, that's not so.  This is the first instance of Parallel AND Perpendicular parking assist. 

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2015 Ford Edge Fuel Economy
Trim   Engine   Transmission   City L/100km   Hwy L/100km
Edge FWD   2.0L – I4 GTDI   6-Speed SST   11.5   7.8
Edge FWD   3.5L – V6   6-Speed SST   13.2   9
Edge AWD   2.0L – I4 GTDI   6-Speed SST   11.8   8.4
Edge Sport AWD   2.7L – V6 GTDI   6-Speed SST   13.6   9.8
Edge AWD   3.5L – V6   6-Speed SST   13.7   9.6
This suggests that you can't get the 3.5L with AWD...that can't be true...can it?!?!?!?

Please look at it again with your glasses on.  It's the last line.

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Re: First Drive: 2015 Ford Edge
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2015, 10:13:23 am »

How is the centre stack in person?  It looks like a really, really cheap effort from photos:


Definitely doesn't scream $50,000 to me, though the mechanicals 'might'.

That's actually always been my criticism of Ford/Lincolns - the centre stack just doesn't look right...flat/blank areas, overwrought with plastic, sometimes shiny, sometimes matte, but never to the quality of its competition.  E.g. Murano:


Great article, Jeff, lovely photos, and again, much thanks for all the work you do (including Descending!!)

NO doubt the dash in the Murano looks much better and I prefer that. But I wonder how much of that can be fixed by applying a little bit of photoshop to the top pic (it clearly lacks in contrast and brightness compared to the Murano shot). So maybe it's really not that bad.

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Re: First Drive: 2015 Ford Edge
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2015, 10:18:43 am »
Nice to see some closer numbers regarding fuel economy of Ford's turbo 4's. If I was leasing and returning I wouldn't care if the 4T vs 6cyl but if keeping longer term definitely the 6cyl for me.
Pricing does seem to be getting ridiculous on many main stream name plates this vehicle included.
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Re: First Drive: 2015 Ford Edge
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2015, 10:21:55 am »
I think the biggest selling feature for this vehicle is you don't have any of those god aweful Matthew McConaughey commercials. :rofl2:

This truck looks good but I just don't trust Ford's Ecoboost fuel efficiency claim.  As one of the car mags say, you can have either "Eco" or "boost" but not both.

+1 on that!  I actually find them kind of creepy.  :P

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Re: First Drive: 2015 Ford Edge
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2015, 10:24:11 am »
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2015 Ford Edge Fuel Economy
Trim   Engine   Transmission   City L/100km   Hwy L/100km
Edge FWD   2.0L – I4 GTDI   6-Speed SST   11.5   7.8
Edge FWD   3.5L – V6   6-Speed SST   13.2   9
Edge AWD   2.0L – I4 GTDI   6-Speed SST   11.8   8.4
Edge Sport AWD   2.7L – V6 GTDI   6-Speed SST   13.6   9.8
Edge AWD   3.5L – V6   6-Speed SST   13.7   9.6
This suggests that you can't get the 3.5L with AWD...that can't be true...can it?!?!?!?

Please look at it again with your glasses on.  It's the last line.
Funny you should mention that...I only have glasses for reading, and I stopped using them a few months ago.  I should likely reconsider that move.

Sorry!

As for reliability of the 2.0/7T vs the 3.5L V6, they both seem to be holding out relatively well.  The only one that scares me is the 1.6T in the Escape.

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Re: First Drive: 2015 Ford Edge
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2015, 10:47:56 am »
I absolutely LOVE this thing but....I'm not a big fan on the Lincoln-y read headlights.  I thought that horizontal reflective bar connecting the lights went the way of the dodo back when they discontinued the ZX2....

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Re: First Drive: 2015 Ford Edge
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2015, 10:52:42 am »
We are currently in the market and have been waiting for reviews of the new Edge.  All of the reviews seem to be quite positive so I went to the Ford site a priced a loaded Edge Sport.  $55,939, including freight, 20" wheels and everything else but the back-seat DVD system.  This, unfortunately, is not a price I consider "reasonable", especially when a fully loaded Murano is $10,000 less.  I don't think the Murano has all the cool tech (adaptive cruise, active lane assist, self-parking) but $10,000 seems a bit steep.  And to top it all off, the Sport does not have a heated steering wheel.  Anybody on this forum from Ford care to explain that?  The Titanium trim has it but not the Sport - seriously?

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Re: First Drive: 2015 Ford Edge
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2015, 11:18:30 am »
I actually (shamefully) like the Edge a lot. I've rented the previous gen a few times and though it was surprisingly good...comfortable, perfect size, good features, etc. This one sounds even better. If I was to give in to the sweatpants segment of the automotive world, I would consider an Edge.

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Re: First Drive: 2015 Ford Edge
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2015, 11:26:11 am »
Yeah, priced as conservatively as possible for my tastes, I get the SEL 2.0T AWD with Canadian Touring package (moonroof and Navi for $2k) and it comes out to $41,000 pre-tax.  That's far, far too expensive for what you get here.

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Re: First Drive: 2015 Ford Edge
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2015, 11:42:32 am »
If Ford employed Audi's interior designer then I as an FGC person could easily consider a Edge AWD sport 2.7T  in a few years...by then maybe Ford will give in and use the ZF 8 speed transmission or a suitable DCT.

I find it interesting that this size and shape of vehicle is so fashionable now.   GLK, X3,Q5,Macan,Edge,RDX  and several Lexii, Hyundai and other brands. Equally interesting is the trend ( forced on the manufacturers I guess) to the 1.5 to 2.x litre forced induction engine in what are really quite large cars. ( The Q5 weighs 4000 lbs...back in that day that would have had a small block!)

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Re: First Drive: 2015 Ford Edge
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2015, 11:50:08 am »
Yeah, priced as conservatively as possible for my tastes, I get the SEL 2.0T AWD with Canadian Touring package (moonroof and Navi for $2k) and it comes out to $41,000 pre-tax.  That's far, far too expensive for what you get here.

Me thinks there will be deals so I wouldn't dismiss the car (if you like it) based on MSRP.

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Re: First Drive: 2015 Ford Edge
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2015, 12:26:40 pm »
The pricing doesn't seem that bad to me....looking at what the higher trim level smaller CUVs are costing....into the low $30's....this seems like a lot more vehicle for a little more money.  That's just off the top of my head....I will need to check this out further, feature-for-feature, etc.