Topic: 2015 Honda Civic Type-R - 306 HP, 0-100... Real Quick

[Autos_Editor]

Honda debuts the long-awaited Civic Type-R: 306 hp and 0-100 real quick.
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[Noto]

Call me crazy (go ahead...), but:

For the first time ever, Honda has gone the turbocharger route for a road-going production sportscar. The result is a healthy 310 PS or 306 hp and 295 lb-ft being churned out by the 2.0L i-VTEC four-cylinder. What’s really caught our attention is the Type-R manages to reach peak hp and peak torque at a mind-boggling 2500 RPM. That translates into a real-world driver being able access all 306 hp instantly, provided they’re already rolling. The fun stops at a rather conservative-for-Honda 7000 RPM. Honda claims the Type-R runs from 0-100 km/h in 5.7 seconds. I wouldn’t be surprised if that was a conservative estimate.

Something doesn't add up.  Maybe it's the FWD drivetrain robbing the 0-100km/h run, but the WRX with significantly less power, drivetrain losses, and peak figures coming on at higher-rpm means that this lil' bugger should go faster than that.

Perhaps the 2,500rpm is torque only and not hp?  That would make more sense, with peak hp coming on at 7,000rpm in a typical Honda-ish fashion.

[tortoise]

Two reasons:

1) AWD vs FWD make a HUGE difference in the 0-60 sprint.

2) "I wouldn’t be surprised if that was a conservative estimate."

Also, since it's a turbo there should be lots of torque at low RPM.  I believe that 2500 rpm number,

[OliverD]

Most automakers give fairly conservative acceleration estimates. I don't pay much attention to those numbers until someone like Car and Driver or Road & Track does actual instrumented testing.

Nice title, BTW.

[wing]

Finally they add some power!

[mixmanmash]

What’s really caught our attention is the Type-R manages to reach peak hp and peak torque at a mind-boggling 2500 RPM.

Lol. Right.

T=(5252xHP)/RPM

So if you have 306 HP at 2500 RPM, the torque would be an unrealistic 643lb-ft.

[Great_Big_Abyss]

Most automakers give fairly conservative acceleration estimates. I don't pay much attention to those numbers until someone like Car and Driver or Road & Track does actual instrumented testing.

Nice title, BTW.

Of course peak hp isn't at 2500rpm.  The relationship between torque, hp and rpm would make that impossible.  with 295 lb-ft of torque at 2500rpm, HP at 2500rpm is 190.  Assuming the torque curve is flat and the engine is still developing 295 lb-ft of torque at 5500rpm, the engine makes 308hp at that rpm.  I think it's likely that the torque curve drops off in the higher RPM's, therefore peak horsepower is likely at around 6000rpm, where torque would have dropped down to 268 lb-ft.  This is making a broad assumption about the torque curve, however.

Given the information provided, the only thing we can say for sure is that at 2500 rpm the engine produces 295 lb-ft of torque and 190 hp.

[Noto]

What’s really caught our attention is the Type-R manages to reach peak hp and peak torque at a mind-boggling 2500 RPM.

Lol. Right.

T=(5252xHP)/RPM

So if you have 306 HP at 2500 RPM, the torque would be an unrealistic 643lb-ft.

Thanks - I knew I was on to something...

[Fobroader]

Cute and all....but power is going to the wrong wheels....Ill take an STI or Focus RS please.

[johngenx]

Cute and all....but power is going to the wrong wheels....Ill take an STI or Focus RS or Golf R please.

The 300hp segment is now ruled by AWD.

[G.Bombay]

"Would you believe that the new Honda Civic Type R is faster than either a Porsche 911 Turbo or Ferrari F430?

Well, it’s true.

Sort of"

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2015/03/honda-civic-type-r-sets-7-50-nurburgring-lap-time.html

[mixmanmash]

"Would you believe that the new Honda Civic Type R is faster than either a Porsche 911 Turbo or Ferrari F430?

Well, it’s true.

Sort of"

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2015/03/honda-civic-type-r-sets-7-50-nurburgring-lap-time.html

Impressive.