Quote from: Great_Big_Abyss on February 12, 2015, 10:35:31 amMy point is that it's easy enough, through software, for carmakers to allow accessibility with a wide range of phones, not only IOS or Android exclusively. IF, indeed, they are only allowing connectivity with IOS devices, that is alienating a large share of the population, regardless of their income. As an Android user (and never planning on going IOS), if I were to buy this car, I would be unable to connect my phone to one of the car's key tech selling feature.As for your graph, I think the reason for the lower average income is because you can find Android on a LOT of lower end phones. Iphones don't offer a low end, sub $100 phone that a certain subset of the population would use. This therefore skews the average income of users in Apple's favor. I'm sure there are just as many 'rich' people who own Android phones as Apple phones.I agree that they should support both, but if they're only going to do one then I think the numbers are in Apple's favor.
My point is that it's easy enough, through software, for carmakers to allow accessibility with a wide range of phones, not only IOS or Android exclusively. IF, indeed, they are only allowing connectivity with IOS devices, that is alienating a large share of the population, regardless of their income. As an Android user (and never planning on going IOS), if I were to buy this car, I would be unable to connect my phone to one of the car's key tech selling feature.As for your graph, I think the reason for the lower average income is because you can find Android on a LOT of lower end phones. Iphones don't offer a low end, sub $100 phone that a certain subset of the population would use. This therefore skews the average income of users in Apple's favor. I'm sure there are just as many 'rich' people who own Android phones as Apple phones.
Quote from: mixmanmash on February 11, 2015, 10:42:58 pmQuoteA pretty neat addition to the Premium Package trim is is a new tethered navigation system powered by the user’s compatible iPhone and data plan via the AcuraLink navigation app.Hopefully it isn't limited to working with an iPhone and supports Android at the very least. Would be a huge mistake if it was limited in this nature.While I agree with the complaint that it's only Apple compatible (assuming accurate), I'm actually complaining more so with the fact that Ronnie said "pretty neat." Auto journos need to stop applauding this move to linking smartphones to cars - telecommunications technologies become obsolete far faster than a vehicle's intended lifespan. Whereas the Navi system in my 2006 RX400h is perfectly working and upgradable, the Bluetooth 1.1 is not and doesn't work with mama Noto's Android. This sort of thing has to stop - data plans are expensive and there's simply no reason to applaud tethering smartphones to vehicles. What's worse, it is just another reason for people to use their phone while driving. Bad, BAD! Quote from: Blueprint on February 11, 2015, 11:27:16 pmwhy are heated seats optional in the "luxe" Civic, while they are std fare in a 17k$ Civic LX?That was my thought exactly as well...to the point of, "WHAT THE , ACURA?!?!"...and I'm still waiting for AWD for me to consider this car.
QuoteA pretty neat addition to the Premium Package trim is is a new tethered navigation system powered by the user’s compatible iPhone and data plan via the AcuraLink navigation app.Hopefully it isn't limited to working with an iPhone and supports Android at the very least. Would be a huge mistake if it was limited in this nature.
A pretty neat addition to the Premium Package trim is is a new tethered navigation system powered by the user’s compatible iPhone and data plan via the AcuraLink navigation app.
why are heated seats optional in the "luxe" Civic, while they are std fare in a 17k$ Civic LX?
Quote from: Blueprint on February 11, 2015, 11:27:16 pmNow that the drivetrain is "fixed", why are heated seats optional in the "luxe" Civic, while they are std fare in a 17k$ Civic LX?Is the option stand-alone, or does one have to move up to Premium trim to warm his ... ?Otherwise, the base car is now an attractive proposal!I'm sure heated seats will be standard in Canada. This article was likely written with preliminary US info.
Now that the drivetrain is "fixed", why are heated seats optional in the "luxe" Civic, while they are std fare in a 17k$ Civic LX?Is the option stand-alone, or does one have to move up to Premium trim to warm his ... ?Otherwise, the base car is now an attractive proposal!
I don't think Canadian pricing has been released yet. I'm interested to see where this starts and how close it gets to the TLX. Also, why is the TLX 2.4 rated at 206 HP while the ILX 2.4 is rated at 201 HP? Aren't they the same engine?
I don't think it's standard in the Verano either. Which is stupid considering it's supposed to be a premium car while you can get a $20k Elantra with heated seats front and back.
Quote from: DKaz on February 15, 2015, 10:55:56 amI don't think it's standard in the Verano either. Which is stupid considering it's supposed to be a premium car while you can get a $20k Elantra with heated seats front and back.+1You need to go up to the 3rd pkg level in the Verano to get heated seats. And that's actually a recent improvement, as you can now get heated cloth seats in the Verano - used to be reserved for the leather pkg before. Cars are like hotels - the more upscale they are, the less chance you have of finding basic features free of charge.
Quote from: OliverD on February 12, 2015, 10:26:47 amQuote from: Great_Big_Abyss on February 12, 2015, 08:18:47 amQuote from: mixmanmash on February 11, 2015, 10:42:58 pmQuoteA pretty neat addition to the Premium Package trim is is a new tethered navigation system powered by the user’s compatible iPhone and data plan via the AcuraLink navigation app.Hopefully it isn't limited to working with an iPhone and supports Android at the very least. Would be a huge mistake if it was limited in this nature.I agree. That sentence stuck out for me, too.Check out the linked graph: http://stats.areppim.com/stats/stats_mobiosxtime_nam.htm.IOS is currently at 48.3% market share, Android is at 45.45% market share. The key metric is that IOS's market share has been on average decreasing since it peaked in May 2013 while Android has been seeing steady growth since its inception in 2009. As a android user for many years, it's always bugged me that some vehicles have catered exclusively to iPhones with their GUI, software, and even connectors. I think this is actually the key metric: http://www.comscore.com/Insights/Data-Mine/iPhone-Users-Earn-Higher-Income-Engage-More-on-Apps-than-Android-UsersMy point is that it's easy enough, through software, for carmakers to allow accessibility with a wide range of phones, not only IOS or Android exclusively. IF, indeed, they are only allowing connectivity with IOS devices, that is alienating a large share of the population, regardless of their income. As an Android user (and never planning on going IOS), if I were to buy this car, I would be unable to connect my phone to one of the car's key tech selling feature.As for your graph, I think the reason for the lower average income is because you can find Android on a LOT of lower end phones. Iphones don't offer a low end, sub $100 phone that a certain subset of the population would use. This therefore skews the average income of users in Apple's favor. I'm sure there are just as many 'rich' people who own Android phones as Apple phones.
Quote from: Great_Big_Abyss on February 12, 2015, 08:18:47 amQuote from: mixmanmash on February 11, 2015, 10:42:58 pmQuoteA pretty neat addition to the Premium Package trim is is a new tethered navigation system powered by the user’s compatible iPhone and data plan via the AcuraLink navigation app.Hopefully it isn't limited to working with an iPhone and supports Android at the very least. Would be a huge mistake if it was limited in this nature.I agree. That sentence stuck out for me, too.Check out the linked graph: http://stats.areppim.com/stats/stats_mobiosxtime_nam.htm.IOS is currently at 48.3% market share, Android is at 45.45% market share. The key metric is that IOS's market share has been on average decreasing since it peaked in May 2013 while Android has been seeing steady growth since its inception in 2009. As a android user for many years, it's always bugged me that some vehicles have catered exclusively to iPhones with their GUI, software, and even connectors. I think this is actually the key metric: http://www.comscore.com/Insights/Data-Mine/iPhone-Users-Earn-Higher-Income-Engage-More-on-Apps-than-Android-Users
Quote from: mixmanmash on February 11, 2015, 10:42:58 pmQuoteA pretty neat addition to the Premium Package trim is is a new tethered navigation system powered by the user’s compatible iPhone and data plan via the AcuraLink navigation app.Hopefully it isn't limited to working with an iPhone and supports Android at the very least. Would be a huge mistake if it was limited in this nature.I agree. That sentence stuck out for me, too.Check out the linked graph: http://stats.areppim.com/stats/stats_mobiosxtime_nam.htm.IOS is currently at 48.3% market share, Android is at 45.45% market share. The key metric is that IOS's market share has been on average decreasing since it peaked in May 2013 while Android has been seeing steady growth since its inception in 2009. As a android user for many years, it's always bugged me that some vehicles have catered exclusively to iPhones with their GUI, software, and even connectors.
Quote from: Blueprint on February 16, 2015, 12:07:40 pmQuote from: DKaz on February 15, 2015, 10:55:56 amI don't think it's standard in the Verano either. Which is stupid considering it's supposed to be a premium car while you can get a $20k Elantra with heated seats front and back.+1You need to go up to the 3rd pkg level in the Verano to get heated seats. And that's actually a recent improvement, as you can now get heated cloth seats in the Verano - used to be reserved for the leather pkg before. Cars are like hotels - the more upscale they are, the less chance you have of finding basic features free of charge.lol - good analogy. Porsche should get into the hotel biz... they could charge you for the room key...
Unlimited data plans country wide in Canada? I don't know anyone with that, all the big players limit you to about 6 gig.And what happens when you hit the border and are roaming at $10 a meg.
Sure corporate plan, everyone has those.
You westerners have it great.Go look at a what a regular Roger's phone bill is. $100/month for basically nothing.I refuse to pay more than $40 a month for phone, coms bills have gone insane.