Topic: Preview: 2016 Mazda2

[conwelpic]

here lots of photos on the new model, if you haven't discovered it

http://www.carscoops.com/2014/07/new-2015-mazda2-officially-breaks-cover.html

[EV-Light]

here lots of photos on the new model, if you haven't discovered it

http://www.carscoops.com/2014/07/new-2015-mazda2-officially-breaks-cover.html

ugh! it's so...so...so...BUBLLY!!!! *dislike*

[Rupert]

   The cab seems a bit further back with a longer hood. I don't seem to remember that aspect on the previous model. The Micra is higher.
   

[ALin]

I just read that the Mazda 2 will be skipping the 2015 model year.

Based on what we've seen so far, this is a distinct possibility. The press release we got from Mazda called it a 2016 (and is what we went with for the article). Given that the launch for JDM is fall 2014 for MY 2015, it's possible that the North American launch will be Q2/Q3 2015 for MY 2016. This is all just speculation though.

[Vanstar]

And, of course, 90% of drivers don't even know what a tach does.

[Ice]

Has a great interior design. Mazda is doing their best to look like... maybe Audi? I realize it's not at the same level but definitely looks great. Especially for this class.

[Waterlooresident]

A car like this is what people need in the upcoming Canadian recession = something that looks sporty, has excellent fuel economy, has a LOW STARTING PRICE, and is fun to toss around in the corners (even if it has almost no power).  For people who used to work at Target, Mexx, Sony stores, or hundreds of other stores that will be shutting down in Canada over the next few months, even a car like this will be out of reach economically, but for those of you who still have jobs and are worried that you too might be out on the street with the newly 'unemployed';  be wise and buy a low priced car like this one and hedge your bets.  That way you only spend half your free cash on a car, leaving the rest of your available cash to buy Kraft Dinner while you are out pounding the pavement with the rest looking for your new gig.

[Rupert]

We have been there for some time methinks...offset by low interest rates which in themselves create problems for seniors and savings for retirement by all.

[mazdaman007]

Making sure the car responds as it should is a quicker steering rack along with revised front disc/rear drum brakes.

Rear drum brakes ? Are you kidding me, zoom zoom ? That's a showstopper for me (reduced performance, more complex than discs to service).

Hopefully that detail is wrong or perhaps at least the GT has rear discs ?

[Noto]

Also, a tire pressure monitoring system is standard equipment on all trims, adding a small bit of insurance to your daily commute.

This is solely because the US requires all cars to have TPMS as standard.

...but in this class of vehicle, in Canada, it's pretty dumb.  It forces those who buy winter tires (which should be everyone) to spend another $150-200 on the sensors so that the TMPS works when you swap out your seasonal tires.

I see it more as a deterrent than a benefit in the "cheap car class".

I'm also VERY concerned if this thing is based off the Yaris platform, which I find to be a very dangerous car in the winter in almost any conditions.  How much is shared?  Is the rear suspension?  The VDM?  As mazdaman007 points out, brakes?  While I love the look, this may be a lipstick on pig car and that concerns me.

Given Mazda's direction, this will not be a 'cheap' offering.  Maybe a starting price in the $15,000s for the base GX, but that GT is 100% going to top $22k pre-destination, just like the Honda Fit.

It's cute, but that's where my praise ends.

[mlin32]

Also, a tire pressure monitoring system is standard equipment on all trims, adding a small bit of insurance to your daily commute.

This is solely because the US requires all cars to have TPMS as standard.

...but in this class of vehicle, in Canada, it's pretty dumb.  It forces those who buy winter tires (which should be everyone) to spend another $150-200 on the sensors so that the TMPS works when you swap out your seasonal tires.

I see it more as a deterrent than a benefit in the "cheap car class".

It will likely use the ABS-based system; that is the case on my Mazda 3 BM (2014). Not the direct TPMS system.

Mazda should use the EPB like they are doing on the updated Mazda 6. Takes up less space and makes the centre console cleaner.

[OliverD]

Also, a tire pressure monitoring system is standard equipment on all trims, adding a small bit of insurance to your daily commute.

This is solely because the US requires all cars to have TPMS as standard.

It's likely an ABS system as mlin32 mentions but either way don't blame the U.S. Apparently the new Mazda 2 won't be sold there at all.

[OliverD]

I'm also VERY concerned if this thing is based off the Yaris platform, which I find to be a very dangerous car in the winter in almost any conditions.  How much is shared?  Is the rear suspension?  The VDM?  As mazdaman007 points out, brakes?  While I love the look, this may be a lipstick on pig car and that concerns me.

Given Mazda's direction, this will not be a 'cheap' offering.  Maybe a starting price in the $15,000s for the base GX, but that GT is 100% going to top $22k pre-destination, just like the Honda Fit.

It's cute, but that's where my praise ends.

This has nothing to do with the Yaris. It's a Mazda platform.

Current 2 starts at $14,450. With the 3 starting at $15,995 I don't see the new 2 going up in price much. I'd wager money that the GX's price will start with a 14.

[WRX_Pilot]

Also, a tire pressure monitoring system is standard equipment on all trims, adding a small bit of insurance to your daily commute.

This is solely because the US requires all cars to have TPMS as standard.

Kind if like how I love certain automakers who also claim '3 months free XM included' no extra cost!  Well duh, anyone with any old used car can get a 3 month free trial from them.

[Rupert]

Rear drums are an upgrade in my books and certainly so in this class of car.

[conwelpic]

official launch at the Montreal Auto Show

http://www.autofile.ca/News/4477/FIRST-LOOK--2016-Mazda2

[Arthur Dent]

Rear drums aren't a big deal on a car this light. You might have to service them once in the lifetime of the car. They get very little work. My old Micra had original rear brakes - they were still fine.

[mazdaman007]

Rear drums aren't a big deal on a car this light. You might have to service them once in the lifetime of the car. They get very little work. My old Micra had original rear brakes - they were still fine.

If the car is that light why not just go with drums on the front then ?

[wing]

Because that wouldn't work very well.

Discs on the front stop the car so much that that rear brakes aren't really needed.

On my chumpcar we have rear drums, they basically do nothing.

[Arthur Dent]

Rear drums aren't a big deal on a car this light. You might have to service them once in the lifetime of the car. They get very little work. My old Micra had original rear brakes - they were still fine.

If the car is that light why not just go with drums on the front then ?

Because the fronts get a lot more use. They do something like 90% of the braking.