Topic: REPORT: BMW 1 Series M Bucks Depreciation Trend

[Autos_Editor]

AutoBlog finds the limited run 1 Series M Coupe has appreciated over the years

Read More...

[Noto]

An M235i at $45k sounds like a good deal to me.  The 1-series may have been 'rare', but that doesn't make it worth the cost, IMO.  Who knows, maybe the M235i will buck the trend as well - cars as appreciating assets?  Who knew?

[OliverD]

An M235i at $45k sounds like a good deal to me.  The 1-series may have been 'rare', but that doesn't make it worth the cost, IMO.  Who knows, maybe the M235i will buck the trend as well - cars as appreciating assets?  Who knew?

The M235i is not production limited. The reason the 1 Series M bucked the trend was because demand far outstripped supply.

[JohnnyMac]

I wonder if this might happen to other limited run vehicles like the Golf R?  One car I am pretty sure will be in the same boat as this 1 series M is the new Camero Z28.  Mind you it might take a few years before it actually increases in value.

[OliverD]

I wonder if this might happen to other limited run vehicles like the Golf R?  One car I am pretty sure will be in the same boat as this 1 series M is the new Camero Z28.  Mind you it might take a few years before it actually increases in value.

Golf R isn't "special" enough and the new one won't be production limited.

[Noto]

Golf R isn't "special" enough and the new one won't be production limited.

...but what made the 1 series M so "special"?  The M235i is far better, so if it's made in higher numbers, that still wouldn't have me wanting the 1.  The 1 was really, really ugly IMO, but it's not up to me - people will pay what people will pay.  Good for them.

[aquadorhj]

Golf R isn't "special" enough and the new one won't be production limited.

...but what made the 1 series M so "special"?  The M235i is far better, so if it's made in higher numbers, that still wouldn't have me wanting the 1.  The 1 was really, really ugly IMO, but it's not up to me - people will pay what people will pay.  Good for them.

Bespoke suspension parts from E90 series M3, transplanted into 1 series M.
Bespoke body panels (like all M cars nowdays)
limited production (less than 2000 in all of north america)


but overall i agree, M235 would be a better car(better interior at least)

[JohnnyMac]

I wonder if this might happen to other limited run vehicles like the Golf R?  One car I am pretty sure will be in the same boat as this 1 series M is the new Camero Z28.  Mind you it might take a few years before it actually increases in value.

Golf R isn't "special" enough and the new one won't be production limited.

Well to me the Golf R is more special compared to a GTI than a 1 series M car is to a BMW 135.  Plus the Golf R was similar in the limited production to NA.  The other thing to mention is that the Golf R has been produced in the past and will be produced in the future, the 1 series M was only produced for one year and no plans of producing another, mind you there probably will be a M2 at some point.

[OliverD]

I wonder if this might happen to other limited run vehicles like the Golf R?  One car I am pretty sure will be in the same boat as this 1 series M is the new Camero Z28.  Mind you it might take a few years before it actually increases in value.

Golf R isn't "special" enough and the new one won't be production limited.

Well to me the Golf R is more special compared to a GTI than a 1 series M car is to a BMW 135.  Plus the Golf R was similar in the limited production to NA.  The other thing to mention is that the Golf R has been produced in the past and will be produced in the future, the 1 series M was only produced for one year and no plans of producing another, mind you there probably will be a M2 at some point.

But VW brought over ~5000 Rs on three separate occasions. Sales for the second-gen model were pretty slow IIRC. Granted, the '04 R32 has held its value extremely well but it hasn't appreciated the way the 1M has.

[Sir Osis of Liver]

It'll be interesting to see if prices remain high after the M235 is widely available.

First issue with a limited run, might hold up, but it might run out of steam after the new one is in circulation for a while.

[Snowman]

Hopefully the TT-RS will hold their value as well. I see 2012's selling for $60k, should be good for when I change in 2 years.

[johngenx]

Hopefully the TT-RS will hold their value as well. I see 2012's selling for $60k, should be good for when I change in 2 years.

The owner of the one I drove here was offered $58K cash "right now, right now!!" for his.  He turned it down as he's keeping it unless Audi replaces it with something vastly better, which is unlikely.  He bought it as a "winter beater" (cause yeah, he's in the income range where a $75K car is a winter beater) but drives it a lot more than he thought he would as it's such a blast.

I have to google some dyno plots for the stock TT-RS.  Maybe it's just the AWD or power delivery or who knows what, but it feels like that 360 is a tad shy of the real deal.  My 911 had only 30hp less but didn't feel nearly as energetic.  Of course, my car had a lot more lag (TT-RS has, um, NONE) and the four speed had larger gaps between the ratios, meaning more or a challenge to keep the boost in the "wow zone."

One of the Miata guys paid a LOT for a 1M recently, and I think he's nuts.  This has happened to a few other cars recently, and unless they're truly special (which, c'mon, the 1M is not) they all nose dive within a few years.  Think C6 Z-06s are collectible now?  Yeah, right.  The C7 is SO much better, the C6 is no longer what anyone wants unless they're looking for a reasonably priced platform to mod.

[OliverD]

One of the Miata guys paid a LOT for a 1M recently, and I think he's nuts.  This has happened to a few other cars recently, and unless they're truly special (which, c'mon, the 1M is not) they all nose dive within a few years.

Depends on how long he keeps it. Long term, I think the values of the 1M will be very strong.

[mixmanmash]

Hopefully the TT-RS will hold their value as well. I see 2012's selling for $60k, should be good for when I change in 2 years.

One of the Miata guys paid a LOT for a 1M recently, and I think he's nuts.

If this is the same guy I am thinking of, he sold his V70R daily driver to buy the 1M, and then sold his wife's 135i to get something more practical, correct?  Although, he does track that 1M at Castrol fairly often.

[Triple Bob]

Hopefully the TT-RS will hold their value as well. I see 2012's selling for $60k, should be good for when I change in 2 years.

The owner of the one I drove here was offered $58K cash "right now, right now!!" for his.  He turned it down as he's keeping it unless Audi replaces it with something vastly better, which is unlikely.  He bought it as a "winter beater" (cause yeah, he's in the income range where a $75K car is a winter beater) but drives it a lot more than he thought he would as it's such a blast.

I have to google some dyno plots for the stock TT-RS.  Maybe it's just the AWD or power delivery or who knows what, but it feels like that 360 is a tad shy of the real deal.  My 911 had only 30hp less but didn't feel nearly as energetic.  Of course, my car had a lot more lag (TT-RS has, um, NONE) and the four speed had larger gaps between the ratios, meaning more or a challenge to keep the boost in the "wow zone."

One of the Miata guys paid a LOT for a 1M recently, and I think he's nuts.  This has happened to a few other cars recently, and unless they're truly special (which, c'mon, the 1M is not) they all nose dive within a few years.  Think C6 Z-06s are collectible now?  Yeah, right.  The C7 is SO much better, the C6 is no longer what anyone wants unless they're looking for a reasonably priced platform to mod.

I've spoken to someone who has owned every M3 sold, he says the 1M is most like the original M3 than the last couple of new generations.  In other words, he rates the 1M as the best 'M3' ever.

IIRC they're about the same size.

[rrocket]

In the last 2 years, the price of air cooled 911 have gone crazy. I got what I consider absurd money for my 911.

It's pretty neat to have a car appreciate so quickly while you've owned it