Author Topic: TESLA Model III (Read 524943 times)

conwelpic · « **Reply #1680 on:** May 15, 2018, 07:19:10 pm »

May 15th

http://www.autonews.com/article/20180515/OEM01/180519849/tesla-production-california-musk-manufacturing

SAN FRANCISCO -- Tesla Inc. will pause production at its California factory for six days at the end of the May to work on fixes to its assembly line for its new Model 3 sedan, sources inside the company told Reuters.

Guy · « **Reply #1681 on:** May 17, 2018, 09:47:13 am »

I'm sure Ron will love this article...

As much as I'd want Tesla to succeed and sell million EV's per year I fully agree with the article and they are totally screwed up as far as car manufacturing goes.

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4172190-tesla-betting-toyota-bad-idea

rrocket · « **Reply #1682 on:** May 17, 2018, 10:40:25 am »

Quote from: Guy on May 17, 2018, 09:47:13 am

I'm sure Ron will love this article...

As much as I'd want Tesla to succeed and sell million EV's per year I fully agree with the article and they are totally screwed up as far as car manufacturing goes.

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4172190-tesla-betting-toyota-bad-idea

Much of what Toyota has done, the processes and mindset for manufacturing have been copied by other manufacturers and even other industries. Why? Because it works and gives you a competitive advantage.

The Kaizen mindset works from the CEO down to the guy sweeping the floor. It's so effective that even service only businesses are using it...even some hospitals for example.

Guy · « **Reply #1683 on:** May 17, 2018, 10:54:33 am »

conwelpic · « **Reply #1684 on:** May 17, 2018, 10:58:32 am »

according to this https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2018-tesla-tracker/

it looks like they will need to double production in about six weeks to meet their next proposed target of 5000 units by the end of June - I wonder what the next revision will be as the odds of meeting this one are pretty slim?

rrocket · « **Reply #1685 on:** May 17, 2018, 02:42:59 pm »

Quote from: conwelpic on May 17, 2018, 10:58:32 am

according to this https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2018-tesla-tracker/

it looks like they will need to double production in about six weeks to meet their next proposed target of 5000 units by the end of June - I wonder what the next revision will be as the odds of meeting this one are pretty slim?

If they start selling 5k per week TODAY, still won't be profitable by year end.

conwelpic · « **Reply #1686 on:** May 21, 2018, 11:46:07 pm »

https://jalopnik.com/consumer-reports-says-it-found-big-flaws-with-the-tesla-1826198783

rrocket · « **Reply #1687 on:** May 22, 2018, 02:11:34 am »

Quote from: conwelpic on May 21, 2018, 11:46:07 pm

https://jalopnik.com/consumer-reports-says-it-found-big-flaws-with-the-tesla-1826198783

Edmunds too.

EV Dan · « **Reply #1688 on:** May 22, 2018, 02:34:16 pm »

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/05/22/elon-musk-admits-tesla-model-3-has-a-braking-issue-promises-fix/

No worries, the brakes' software update will sort you out

SKYMTL · « **Reply #1689 on:** May 22, 2018, 02:45:57 pm »

Beta testing with the brakes now.

ChaosphereIX · « **Reply #1690 on:** May 22, 2018, 02:58:41 pm »

to be expected

remember: Tesla is a high-tech company, like Intel or ASUS. NOT a car company like GM or Toyota.

Beta testing with your consumers, and releasing Alpha products to be improved "in the wild" is standard, even expected, practice.

rrocket · « **Reply #1691 on:** May 22, 2018, 02:59:08 pm »

Quote from: ChaosphereIX on May 22, 2018, 02:58:41 pm

to be expected

remember: Tesla is a high-tech company, like Intel or ASUS. NOT a car company like GM or Toyota.

Beta testing with your consumers, and releasing Alpha products to be improved "in the wild" is standard, even expected, practice.

How's the refund? Any word?

EV Dan · « **Reply #1692 on:** May 22, 2018, 02:59:58 pm »

Quote from: SKYMTL on May 22, 2018, 02:45:57 pm

Beta testing with the brakes now.

Remember the crap Toyota used to be given for unintended acceleration? Now we have cars on autopilot crashing into stationary cars and trucks on the side of the road among other scary things they do... and it's business as usual

I wish Tesla best but I don't think it's OK for car companies to use their customers as test dummies or for people around them to participate unknowingly.

ChaosphereIX · « **Reply #1693 on:** May 22, 2018, 03:05:04 pm »

Quote from: rrocket on May 22, 2018, 02:59:08 pm

Quote from: ChaosphereIX on May 22, 2018, 02:58:41 pm
to be expected

remember: Tesla is a high-tech company, like Intel or ASUS. NOT a car company like GM or Toyota.

Beta testing with your consumers, and releasing Alpha products to be improved "in the wild" is standard, even expected, practice.
How's the refund? Any word?

nope! Will send a follow-up email at the end of the week, and if no news after that will take it from there.

rrocket · « **Reply #1694 on:** May 22, 2018, 03:06:02 pm »

Quote from: ChaosphereIX on May 22, 2018, 03:05:04 pm

Quote from: rrocket on May 22, 2018, 02:59:08 pm
Quote from: ChaosphereIX on May 22, 2018, 02:58:41 pm
to be expected

remember: Tesla is a high-tech company, like Intel or ASUS. NOT a car company like GM or Toyota.

Beta testing with your consumers, and releasing Alpha products to be improved "in the wild" is standard, even expected, practice.
How's the refund? Any word?
nope! Will send a follow-up email at the end of the week, and if no news after that will take it from there.

Makes my bum hurt and it's not even my money!

johngenx · « **Reply #1695 on:** May 22, 2018, 03:16:42 pm »

Quote from: EV Dan on May 22, 2018, 02:59:58 pm

Remember the crap Toyota used to be given for unintended acceleration? Now we have cars on autopilot crashing into stationary cars and trucks on the side of the road among other scary things they do... and it's business as usual

And the unintended acceleration thing was operator error - no car can overpower it's brakes - people looking to blame someone else for their driving error. The autopilot car crashes are also operator error, but the car is actually now part of the problem, and you're right, no one seems to really think this is an issue. WTF?

rrocket · « **Reply #1696 on:** May 22, 2018, 03:23:36 pm »

Quote from: johngenx on May 22, 2018, 03:16:42 pm

Quote from: EV Dan on May 22, 2018, 02:59:58 pm
Remember the crap Toyota used to be given for unintended acceleration? Now we have cars on autopilot crashing into stationary cars and trucks on the side of the road among other scary things they do... and it's business as usual

And the unintended acceleration thing was operator error - no car can overpower it's brakes - people looking to blame someone else for their driving error. The autopilot car crashes are also operator error, but the car is actually now part of the problem, and you're right, no one seems to really think this is an issue. WTF?

That one last week was particularly bad...

How in the heck can Autopilot not see a big, red, parked fire truck?

johngenx · « **Reply #1697 on:** May 22, 2018, 04:27:12 pm »

Quote from: rrocket on May 22, 2018, 03:23:36 pm

How in the heck can Autopilot not see a big, red, parked fire truck?

Maybe...

ChaosphereIX · « **Reply #1698 on:** May 22, 2018, 04:46:21 pm »

rrocket · « **Reply #1699 on:** May 22, 2018, 06:38:11 pm »

Quote from: kevlar on May 22, 2018, 06:33:43 pm

elon has played america. he's played the system, he's just done such a great job of understanding and playing how badly america wants a new champion. he recognized that the product had to outperform regular petrol cars but it's just too bad he is so willing to cut corners. it just feels like he bought into his own BS.

I think his ego plays a large part of this. Yep.