Topic: Bugatti Axes Four-Door Galibier In Favour Of Next Veyron

[Autos_Editor]

1500 hp 'Super Veyron' also cut from future product plan

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[Noto]

Since I'm not a Saudi prince, I couldn't care less about what Bugatti does.

Cruise ships make over 100,000 hp...doesn't make me want to buy/drive one.  Give me new/excellent technology, and we'll talk - all they do is bolt together too many cylinders and turbochargers into a beast of a vehicle that only the wealthiest can purchase...and yet a Nissan GTR would be far faster around probably any track than the SuperVeyron at 1/10th the price.

16 cylinders, 4 turbochargers, and 1,500 hp?  BMW made 1,300hp with a 1.5L 4 cylinder.  Now THAT's impressive.

[Kinetis]

I thought the first Veyron was a money losing proposition. Will the second be any different?

I guess I won't be buying anything from the VW group since I would just be subsidizing toys for the rich.

[aquadorhj]

16 cylinders, 4 turbochargers, and 1,500 hp?  BMW made 1,300hp with a 1.5L 4 cylinder.  Now THAT's impressive.

and the bmw engine never finished a race.   that's just appalling.
and when honda's 1.5 liter turbo 6  made similar(well... over 1000 anyway) power and actually finished races.


bugatti has to run like a real car,  be used to commute, travel on highway, its gearbox handling 1000 ft/lbs of torque, while still having regular new car warranty AND deliver all kinds of luxury and security of a real nice car.  that is more impressive to me than a small engine that has to last 2 hours at a time.

[Noto]

16 cylinders, 4 turbochargers, and 1,500 hp?  BMW made 1,300hp with a 1.5L 4 cylinder.  Now THAT's impressive.

and the bmw engine never finished a race.   that's just appalling.
and when honda's 1.5 liter turbo 6  made similar(well... over 1000 anyway) power and actually finished races.


bugatti has to run like a real car,  be used to commute, travel on highway, its gearbox handling 1000 ft/lbs of torque, while still having regular new car warranty AND deliver all kinds of luxury and security of a real nice car.  that is more impressive to me than a small engine that has to last 2 hours at a time.

Sorry, not quite my point - I'm aware why we don't have sea-doo engines in our cars (my buddy's RXP makes 260hp out of a supercharged 1.5L 3 cyl), but I want to see some stellar engineering at that price point.  Bigger engines aren't necessarily better - and that's why I love the GTR.

[Sir Osis of Liver]

The Galibier was a cool and interesting looking car. I thought it was an interesting move for the company, and something different than the rest of the low slung, two seat, über sports cars.

But really, whatever car they produce is irrelevant to the general population and the brand itself is a money pit for VW.

[Noto]

The Galibier was a cool and interesting looking car. I thought it was an interesting move for the company, and something different than the rest of the low slung, two seat, über sports cars.

But really, whatever car they produce is irrelevant to the general population and the brand itself is a money pit for VW.

Perfect statement.

[Fobroader]

The Galibier was a cool and interesting looking car. I thought it was an interesting move for the company, and something different than the rest of the low slung, two seat, über sports cars.

But really, whatever car they produce is irrelevant to the general population and the brand itself is a money pit for VW.

I agree, VW must have this car company as really 90% of its consumers live within 100 mile circle of Dubai. The Veyron was one of the technologically advanced vehicles of all time and Id love to go for a rip in one because it did make every other vehicle out there look like a Flinstone mobile, would I own one...nope.

[Northernridge]

Well I'm happy...no delighted, to see brilliant people attempt to make outrageous machines because they can (or think they can). To think that affordability by the average joe should determine whether a project proceeds is just ridiculous. Personally, I would love to be part of an outlandish project like the Veyron...then again, skunk work has always been my favourite kind.

On Monday corporations are slammed for being too profit-oriented. On Tuesday they are slammed for making crazy machines that lose money.

[micha]

I thought the first Veyron was a money losing proposition. Will the second be any different?

I guess I won't be buying anything from the VW group since I would just be subsidizing toys for the rich.

VW wanted a halo project. It was F1 or the Veyron. They went with the Veyron, because it was much cheaper and was projected to have a higher impact. Other companies have those projects too. There isn't much you can buy then.

[evil_twin]

Well I'm happy...no delighted, to see brilliant people attempt to make outrageous machines because they can (or think they can). To think that affordability by the average joe should determine whether a project proceeds is just ridiculous. Personally, I would love to be part of an outlandish project like the Veyron

Thank you.

16 cylinders, 4 turbochargers, and 1,500 hp?  BMW made 1,300hp with a 1.5L 4 cylinder.  Now THAT's impressive.

and the bmw engine never finished a race.   that's just appalling.
and when honda's 1.5 liter turbo 6  made similar(well... over 1000 anyway) power and actually finished races.


bugatti has to run like a real car,  be used to commute, travel on highway, its gearbox handling 1000 ft/lbs of torque, while still having regular new car warranty AND deliver all kinds of luxury and security of a real nice car.  that is more impressive to me than a small engine that has to last 2 hours at a time.

Sorry, not quite my point - I'm aware why we don't have sea-doo engines in our cars (my buddy's RXP makes 260hp out of a supercharged 1.5L 3 cyl), but I want to see some stellar engineering at that price point.  Bigger engines aren't necessarily better - and that's why I love the GTR.

To suggest the Veyron is not a stellar feat of engineering is flat out ridiculous.  The car's capabilities are incredible.   Maximizing hp/displacement is not the only thing automotive engineers are focused on.   Creating a car that can effortlessly transport it's occupants at such ludicrous speeds is impressive however you go about the task.

I'm not a Saudi Prince but I can still appreciate the sheer lunacy of this thing.