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Re: Long-Term Test Update 3: 2014 Hyundai Santa Fe XL Premium
« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2013, 10:09:04 am »
Pretty slow thread

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How much better is the Toyota Highland then the Santa Fe ?

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Re: Long-Term Test Update 3: 2014 Hyundai Santa Fe XL Premium
« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2013, 10:54:58 am »
the new Highlander isn't out yet.

Toyota site still has it as "coming soon"

just based on pictures, the Santa Fe wins the beauty contest for sure.
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Re: Long-Term Test Update 3: 2014 Hyundai Santa Fe XL Premium
« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2013, 02:25:03 pm »
Pretty slow thread

I know how to get it moving  :light:

How much better is the Toyota Highland then the Santa Fe ?
Better ask: How much better is Highlander than Honda Pilot?
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Re: Long-Term Test Update 3: 2014 Hyundai Santa Fe XL Premium
« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2013, 02:30:33 pm »
Just pray it doesn't look like the 4Runner  :hurl:
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Re: Long-Term Test Update 3: 2014 Hyundai Santa Fe XL Premium
« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2013, 02:31:13 pm »
Pretty slow thread

I know how to get it moving  :light:

How much better is the Toyota Highland then the Santa Fe ?
Better ask: How much better is Highlander than Honda Pilot?

Jacob is on the flight home from driving the Highlander, so we'll find out very soon!
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Re: Long-Term Test Update 3: 2014 Hyundai Santa Fe XL Premium
« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2013, 03:25:20 pm »
So does thing have proper AWD or that slip and grip silliness??
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Re: Long-Term Test Update 3: 2014 Hyundai Santa Fe XL Premium
« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2013, 03:26:55 pm »
Just pray it doesn't look like the 4Runner  :hurl:



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Re: Long-Term Test Update 3: 2014 Hyundai Santa Fe XL Premium
« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2013, 03:28:10 pm »

Jacob is on the flight home from driving the Highlander, so we'll find out very soon!

The recent Motor Trend review wasn't very positive...but I put as much stock in their review as I do C&D or Consumer's Reports (that is to say, not very much!)

In this category I think the SF XL is tough to beat, unless you absolutely need to use the 3rd row frequently (but if that's the case, buy a minivan ;D)  Though the new Pilot might be good competition if it's got the MDX's goodness baked in...
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Re: Long-Term Test Update 3: 2014 Hyundai Santa Fe XL Premium
« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2013, 03:35:46 pm »
Just pray it doesn't look like the 4Runner  :hurl:



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Thats a lot of flat area.....what was their main design theme, the face of a Pug??  :hurl: :thumbdown:

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Re: Long-Term Test Update 3: 2014 Hyundai Santa Fe XL Premium
« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2013, 03:55:53 pm »
The face of a PUG is a thing of beauty and anyone who has owned one will know that they are fun loving adorable creatures.

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Re: Long-Term Test Update 3: 2014 Hyundai Santa Fe XL Premium
« Reply #30 on: December 20, 2013, 04:03:04 pm »
The face of a PUG is a thing of beauty and anyone who has owned one will know that they are fun loving adorable creatures.

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Re: Long-Term Test Update 3: 2014 Hyundai Santa Fe XL Premium
« Reply #31 on: December 20, 2013, 05:04:44 pm »
How would the SF compare to a Venza ?

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Re: Long-Term Test Update 3: 2014 Hyundai Santa Fe XL Premium
« Reply #32 on: December 20, 2013, 05:33:06 pm »
Just pray it doesn't look like the 4Runner  :hurl:

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Thats a lot of flat area.....what was their main design theme, the face of a Pug??  :hurl: :thumbdown:

Looks like they took the face of my Tundra and "freshened" it.  Pretty underwhelming.
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Re: Long-Term Test Update 3: 2014 Hyundai Santa Fe XL Premium
« Reply #33 on: December 20, 2013, 09:58:08 pm »

Jacob is on the flight home from driving the Highlander, so we'll find out very soon!

The recent Motor Trend review wasn't very positive...but I put as much stock in their review as I do C&D or Consumer's Reports (that is to say, not very much!)

In this category I think the SF XL is tough to beat, unless you absolutely need to use the 3rd row frequently (but if that's the case, buy a minivan ;D)  Though the new Pilot might be good competition if it's got the MDX's goodness baked in...

Well the comparo is coming out sometime, I would put the CX-9 up there.  In terms of sales, I don't see many Durangos, or Explorers, compared to all the GM triplets you see....

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Re: Long-Term Test Update 3: 2014 Hyundai Santa Fe XL Premium
« Reply #34 on: December 21, 2013, 12:04:16 am »
Pretty slow thread

I know how to get it moving  :light:

How much better is the Toyota Highland then the Santa Fe ?
Better ask: How much better is Highlander than Honda Pilot?

Quite a bit, I'd assume. The Pilot is getting really, really old.
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Re: Long-Term Test Update 3: 2014 Hyundai Santa Fe XL Premium
« Reply #35 on: December 21, 2013, 12:16:42 am »
Pretty slow thread

I know how to get it moving  :light:

How much better is the Toyota Highland then the Santa Fe ?

I think Fe will win the matchup based on included standard features first on the base model and then the powertrain. I recall the Fe XL is already a bit cheaper than the HL but more importantly it comes with the proper for this class 3.3V6 with DI while the HL uses the old 2.7I4 and 3.5V6 as an upgrade. Styling is subjective but to me the HL looks like a van from the back.
In other news, the hybrid production has reportedly moved to US - whatever it'll do to its stellar reliability.
Check TTAC for the HL review.
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Re: Long-Term Test Update 3: 2014 Hyundai Santa Fe XL Premium
« Reply #36 on: December 22, 2013, 10:34:03 am »
i wish the 3.3L V6 was either an option in the Sante Fe Sport (5 seater) or perhaps the standard engine in the premium trims...i like the force fed four, but i think in the upper trims, you'd prefer the smoother V6.
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Re: Long-Term Test Update 3: 2014 Hyundai Santa Fe XL Premium
« Reply #37 on: December 22, 2013, 12:22:16 pm »
Pretty slow thread

I know how to get it moving  :light:

How much better is the Toyota Highland then the Santa Fe ?

I think Fe will win the matchup based on included standard features first on the base model and then the powertrain. I recall the Fe XL is already a bit cheaper than the HL but more importantly it comes with the proper for this class 3.3V6 with DI while the HL uses the old 2.7I4 and 3.5V6 as an upgrade. Styling is subjective but to me the HL looks like a van from the back.
In other news, the hybrid production has reportedly moved to US - whatever it'll do to its stellar reliability.
Check TTAC for the HL review.

It will drop the price by 6% :-)

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Re: Long-Term Test Update 3: 2014 Hyundai Santa Fe XL Premium
« Reply #38 on: December 22, 2013, 11:08:12 pm »
So does thing have proper AWD or that slip and grip silliness??

it's slip n' grip, but there's more grip than slip - very quick to shift power to the wheels with traction or simply divide the torque equally. our side street is essentially a sheet of ice, so the AWD and Dunlop winters have been getting a through 'testing'. AWD will get the vehicle moving before traction control even peeps, so i've never had to bother turning it off.

I would not hesitate to recommend the SFXL or the Dunlops for winter weather duty, although i believe the Dunlops are fairly pricey. Still, this kind of AWD is meant for poor weather and cottage trails, none of the Jeep-y climb up a cliff stuff you're into.

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Re: Long-Term Test Update 3: 2014 Hyundai Santa Fe XL Premium
« Reply #39 on: December 23, 2013, 10:38:27 am »
So does thing have proper AWD or that slip and grip silliness??

it's slip n' grip, but there's more grip than slip - very quick to shift power to the wheels with traction or simply divide the torque equally. our side street is essentially a sheet of ice, so the AWD and Dunlop winters have been getting a through 'testing'. AWD will get the vehicle moving before traction control even peeps, so i've never had to bother turning it off.

I would not hesitate to recommend the SFXL or the Dunlops for winter weather duty, although i believe the Dunlops are fairly pricey. Still, this kind of AWD is meant for poor weather and cottage trails, none of the Jeep-y climb up a cliff stuff you're into.

The Santa Fe uses a pretty advanced setup for its AWD system. The system is capable of collecting data from the engine, steering, and braking systems in order to analyze road conditions and distribute torque between the front and rear axles in the most effective way possible. With the data pulled from these sensors, the system adjusts lock-up of the rear coupling to actuate the rear differential and regulate exactly how much power is transferred to the back.

One of the reasons the system is able to respond so quickly is that it uses an electro-hydraulic clutch as opposed to a magnetic variant. Basically, the rear coupling that engages the rear differential when needed is actuated by an electronically-controlled hydraulic clutch. When the vehicle is turned on, the system immediately builds hydraulic pressure in the coupling to bring the clutch as close as possible to its bite point. Note that this isn’t pre-loading, because no there’s no parasitic power loss and the clutch isn’t actually biting. That said, because the system is “primed”, when the control unit senses the need for torque distribution to the back, it can activate the rear differential extremely quickly. The degree to which power is shifted back is dictated by the data collected from the other systems I noted above.

Of course, the system can also be manually locked in a 50/50 split at low speeds for maximum traction.
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