Topic: Preview: 2015 Ford Mustang

[Autos_Editor]

The 2015 Ford Mustang brings the icon to a truly global audience...

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[JohnnyMac]

I think this next generation of Mustang looks very good indeed.  I know not all will be happy with all the looks but I think everyone can find one angle that they find appealing.  I'm really hoping they met their 100kg weight reduction as that will really make this world class.  Adding the independant rear suspensions was a must I think.  What was funny though is that the engineers who were working on the suspension actually found that the front suspension of the old one was actually more limiting then the rear so they changed that as well.  That's why they can fit bigger brakes up front than previous model. 

I'm going to be shopping for a sports car in the summer of 2015 and this will surely be on my list of test drives.  Here's hoping by that time the new Camero will be out as well and possibly the new Mopar product (barricuda?), and maybe a all new Genesis Coupe as well.  What really attracts me to the Mustang is the affordability of all the models.  It will be fairly hard for me to choose a base model V6 and have it paid off in 3 years or the GT and pay it off in 5.  One thing is for sure I won't be considering the turbo 4 cylinder.

[WRX_Pilot]

I dig it.  Very nice job on the interior as well.  Just a few too many buttons on the steering wheel, it looks like a keyboard.

Once again Ford is trying to push the smaller turbo 4 as an 'upgrade'.. Hmm...

[mixmanmash]

I bet the 4 cylinder will be popular in other markets where there is a tax associated with engine displacement.

What we are forgetting is that this Mustang will be sold worldwide.

[OliverD]

It will be interesting to see how well that is received.  I understand why Ford is extending the option but a 4 cylinder - even one with genuine sporting credentials - seems to be working at cross purposes with the Mustang brand, which is thoroughly associated with the V8.  I personally would not opt for the 4 but there is apparently a perceived need to expand the brand.

A good four cylinder Mustang is not without precedence.

[hemusbull]

Is this a still pony car? Is there a solid rear axel? What about the expected price?

[JacobBlack]

Is this a still pony car? Is there a solid rear axel? What about the expected price?

First two questions are answered clearly in the article, still no info about price, but I don't expect it to be much different than the current iterations.

[Northernridge]

I'm sure it will be a winner. But it didn't seem to garner nearly the same market anticipation that the new Corvette did though. Or the same the same reaction once unveiled for that matter.

[ArticSteve]

I understand why Ford is extending the option but a 4 cylinder - even one with genuine sporting credentials - seems to be working at cross purposes with the Mustang brand, which is thoroughly associated with the V8.

From my humble eye ball observations via the used car world, the Mustang is associated with the being a convertible in automatic.  Since 2011 MY, it didn't really matter to buyers of these units if it had a 6 or 8 because either engine propelled the vehicle to speeds greater than they would ever drive at.

The unfortunate reality is that the V8 manuals have a horrible transmission setup primarily because of the remote shifter.   Ford has come out and said that they are repositioning the shifter for driver comfort or something to that effect.  What they are doing is unofficially acknowledging that the shifter has been a major dud on MYs 2011 thru 2014 and they have a structural fix in hand.

Consequently, the manual transmission in the 2015 V6 and V8 is still a show me story since the same Chinese built Getrag is being used which isn`t the best news.  Now the 4 pot turbo might just escape this fate so that in itself would be a major bonus for ordering the 4 banger in manual.  Plus the tuner market is going to be all over this motor.  I think if your an automatic driver the V6 is fine.   

[Fobroader]

A good four cylinder Mustang is not without precedence.

The SVO seems to prove the point: A 4 cylinder Mustang has thus far been nothing more than a footnote in a story dominated by V8 performance.

The only reason it was just a footnote was because it was faster than the the big boy 5L.....just like the Buick Grand National being faster than the Corvette of its day. Both cars were cancelled because they packed more firepower than the companies top halo car.

[mixmanmash]

A good four cylinder Mustang is not without precedence.

The SVO seems to prove the point: A 4 cylinder Mustang has thus far been nothing more than a footnote in a story dominated by V8 performance.

The only reason it was just a footnote was because it was faster than the the big boy 5L.....just like the Buick Grand National being faster than the Corvette of its day. Both cars were cancelled because they packed more firepower than the companies top halo car.

This is correct.  I remember when the GM came out.  That V6 turbo use to smoke all the Corvettes of the same era.  What an awesome car!

[Snowman]

A good four cylinder Mustang is not without precedence.

The SVO seems to prove the point: A 4 cylinder Mustang has thus far been nothing more than a footnote in a story dominated by V8 performance.

The only reason it was just a footnote was because it was faster than the the big boy 5L.....just like the Buick Grand National being faster than the Corvette of its day. Both cars were cancelled because they packed more firepower than the companies top halo car.

Yep, I had an SVO Mustang and pissed off a few 5.0 boys 

[rrocket]

A good four cylinder Mustang is not without precedence.

The SVO seems to prove the point: A 4 cylinder Mustang has thus far been nothing more than a footnote in a story dominated by V8 performance.

The only reason it was just a footnote was because it was faster than the the big boy 5L.....just like the Buick Grand National being faster than the Corvette of its day. Both cars were cancelled because they packed more firepower than the companies top halo car.

This is correct.  I remember when the GM came out.  That V6 turbo use to smoke all the Corvettes of the same era.  What an awesome car!

I'm not sure if that's really true...about it being dumped because it was faster.  If the Grand National was cancelled because it was the fastest GM, why did they do it again 2 years later with the 1989 turbo Trans-Am, which was the quickest American-made car at the time?  Ditto the early 90s GMC Typhoon/Syclone..which...depending on who was doing the testing was also quicker than a Vette. 

No...the SVO was cancelled due to price.  The GT was ~$11,000.   SVO was ~$16K. And while quicker than a GT,....a $5K premium in 1986 didn't justify it.

[Fobroader]

A good four cylinder Mustang is not without precedence.

The SVO seems to prove the point: A 4 cylinder Mustang has thus far been nothing more than a footnote in a story dominated by V8 performance.

The only reason it was just a footnote was because it was faster than the the big boy 5L.....just like the Buick Grand National being faster than the Corvette of its day. Both cars were cancelled because they packed more firepower than the companies top halo car.

This is correct.  I remember when the GM came out.  That V6 turbo use to smoke all the Corvettes of the same era.  What an awesome car!

I'm not sure if that's really true...about it being dumped because it was faster.  If the Grand National was cancelled because it was the fastest GM, why did they do it again 2 years later with the 1989 turbo Trans-Am, which was the quickest American-made car at the time?  Ditto the early 90s GMC Typhoon/Syclone..which...depending on who was doing the testing was also quicker than a Vette.

Maybe the different brands didnt tell HQ what exactly they were doing. Dont know how the structure worked back then but I dont see Chevy liking the fact that truck maker and Pontiac had a faster car than the Corvette. Right now, the Camaro would never be allowed to be faster than the Vette....ever!!

[rrocket]

^^The Camaro ZL-1 was quicker than a base Vette.

[Fobroader]

The base Vette yet, but the Z06 or the ZR1 will stomp it. Thing is, back then there was one version of the Vette and it was a slow, strangled, pathetic car.

[rrocket]

The base Vette yet, but the Z06 or the ZR1 will stomp it. Thing is, back then there was one version of the Vette and it was a slow, strangled, pathetic car.

You must be forgetting the ZR1 which bowed in 89/90.

[Fobroader]

The base Vette yet, but the Z06 or the ZR1 will stomp it. Thing is, back then there was one version of the Vette and it was a slow, strangled, pathetic car.

You must be forgetting the ZR1 which bowed in 89/90.

No, Im not, in the mid 80s, the Vette, along with pretty well anything on the market, were a pathetic shadow of their former selves.Yes, the ZR1 finally saw the Corvette go back to being a proper sports car, but in the 1980s it wasnt really anything to call home about.

[rrocket]

The base Vette yet, but the Z06 or the ZR1 will stomp it. Thing is, back then there was one version of the Vette and it was a slow, strangled, pathetic car.

You must be forgetting the ZR1 which bowed in 89/90.

No, Im not, in the mid 80s, the Vette, along with pretty well anything on the market, were a pathetic shadow of their former selves.Yes, the ZR1 finally saw the Corvette go back to being a proper sports car, but in the 1980s it wasnt really anything to call home about.

Well the turbo Trans Am was quicker than the ZR-1....which is why I was disputing GM cancelling a car because it was quicker than a Vette.  That's all...

[Fobroader]

The base Vette yet, but the Z06 or the ZR1 will stomp it. Thing is, back then there was one version of the Vette and it was a slow, strangled, pathetic car.

You must be forgetting the ZR1 which bowed in 89/90.

No, Im not, in the mid 80s, the Vette, along with pretty well anything on the market, were a pathetic shadow of their former selves.Yes, the ZR1 finally saw the Corvette go back to being a proper sports car, but in the 1980s it wasnt really anything to call home about.

Well the turbo Trans Am was quicker than the ZR-1....which is why I was disputing GM cancelling a car because it was quicker than a Vette.  That's all...

The turbo T/A was quicker than the ZR1....it had 300 horses, the ZR1 was about 400......