Topic: Unifor Aggressively Seeking To Unionize Toyota Canada Plant

[ArticSteve]

Impressive to have the same job for 25 years.  Since I finished college in 87 I've had 8 jobs.  3 layoffs, quit 3 and got fired once.  

Yes, it's a sad state of affairs today.  The right will say job insecurity builds character which it does to a point.  But over the 45 year life span of a worker, continual insecurity is a lousy way to go thru the years.  The self starters and the self employed are a tiny minority and are quite satisfied to hold that space to themselves.  Which leaves the other 99%.

There is a solution to this:  Think Paraguay 

http://fusion.net/leadership/story/marijuana-legalization-law-green-light-uruguay-18060

[PJ]

Impressive to have the same job for 25 years.  Since I finished college in 87 I've had 8 jobs.  3 layoffs, quit 3 and got fired once.  

Yes, it's a sad state of affairs today.  The right will say job insecurity builds character which it does to a point.  But over the 45 year life span of a worker, continual insecurity is a lousy way to go thru the years.  The self starters and the self employed are a tiny minority and are quite satisfied to hold that space to themselves.  Which leaves the other 99%.

There is a solution to this:  Think Paraguay 

http://fusion.net/leadership/story/marijuana-legalization-law-green-light-uruguay-18060

I dunno.  To me being stuck at the same job for decades would be mind numbingly boring.  Stuck in a rut, so afraid that someone younger can do your simple little day to day routine better then you.  No challenge , no effort. 

The R&D company I work for lives on investor money.  People that believe in us and put up big cash.  We succeed, we do well.   Fail and looking for work. 


I like it that way. 

[Northernridge]

Job security is a myth. Career security...less so.

This is true whether you look in from the left or from the right. Was true before Harper became PM and will be true after he's done. Which will be two elections from now.


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[Ex-airbalancer]

Job security is a myth. Career security...less so.

This is true whether you look in from the left or from the right. Was true before Harper became PM and will be true after he's done. Which will be two elections from now.


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I think Harper may step down  before the end of this term , if the senator bs gets worst 

[Northernridge]

Job security is a myth. Career security...less so.

This is true whether you look in from the left or from the right. Was true before Harper became PM and will be true after he's done. Which will be two elections from now.


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I think Harper may step down  before the end of this term , if the senator bs gets worst

My people tell me only if he thinks he can't win a majority in the next election. Doesn't want to be a minority PM and won't sit as the opposition leader.

[Ex-airbalancer]

Job security is a myth. Career security...less so.

This is true whether you look in from the left or from the right. Was true before Harper became PM and will be true after he's done. Which will be two elections from now.


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I think Harper may step down  before the end of this term , if the senator bs gets worst

My people tell me only if he thinks he can't win a majority in the next election. Doesn't want to be a minority PM and won't sit as the opposition leader.

You have people 

[PJ]

Job security is a myth. Career security...less so.

This is true whether you look in from the left or from the right. Was true before Harper became PM and will be true after he's done. Which will be two elections from now.


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You think he has even a chance of winning the next election?

[Fobroader]

Job security is a myth. Career security...less so.

This is true whether you look in from the left or from the right. Was true before Harper became PM and will be true after he's done. Which will be two elections from now.


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You think he has even a chance of winning the next election?

Well seeing as how there arent any other real choices....yes...

[Sir Osis of Liver]

Minority government at best for Harper at this point. Current polls have him in opposition.

He's been in power for a long time and the scandals are adding up. It's really difficult to get a third mandate at the best of times.

It hinges on Ontario. BC is lost, as is the Atlantic and Quebec. If Ontario doesn't really turn around economically,  the Tories are done.

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[Snowman]

Impressive to have the same job for 25 years.  Since I finished college in 87 I've had 8 jobs.  3 layoffs, quit 3 and got fired once.  

Yes, it's a sad state of affairs today.  The right will say job insecurity builds character which it does to a point.  But over the 45 year life span of a worker, continual insecurity is a lousy way to go thru the years.  The self starters and the self employed are a tiny minority and are quite satisfied to hold that space to themselves.  Which leaves the other 99%.

There is a solution to this:  Think Paraguay 

http://fusion.net/leadership/story/marijuana-legalization-law-green-light-uruguay-18060

I dunno.  To me being stuck at the same job for decades would be mind numbingly boring.  Stuck in a rut, so afraid that someone younger can do your simple little day to day routine better then you.  No challenge , no effort. 

The R&D company I work for lives on investor money.  People that believe in us and put up big cash.  We succeed, we do well.   Fail and looking for work. 


I like it that way.

I agree, I could never work at the same company for more than a few years. The longest to date has been 5. I now work on projects that typically last 12-18 months. Once they approach an operations phase I am out.

[ArticSteve]

If Ontario doesn't really turn around economically

No chance of that.  Presently, Ontario is running on consumer and public debt.

[PJ]

Job security is a myth. Career security...less so.

This is true whether you look in from the left or from the right. Was true before Harper became PM and will be true after he's done. Which will be two elections from now.


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You think he has even a chance of winning the next election?

Well seeing as how there arent any other real choices....yes...

I'm willing to give the Liberals a try.  I see no reason they wouldn't do better then the Harper dynasty.

[mixmanmash]

Job security is a myth. Career security...less so.

100% true.

[safristi]

It is practically (well actually if Hollande saucy boy gets his way) impossible to get FIRED in France...

 and they are doing GREAT <sarcasm alert> for some..................

[Fobroader]

Job security is a myth. Career security...less so.

This is true whether you look in from the left or from the right. Was true before Harper became PM and will be true after he's done. Which will be two elections from now.


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You think he has even a chance of winning the next election?

Well seeing as how there arent any other real choices....yes...

I'm willing to give the Liberals a try.  I see no reason they wouldn't do better then the Harper dynasty.

I dont like the fact that most voters in Canada, myself included, end up with the dilemma of whos going to be least crook and screw up the country the least.....hardly the whole "best man for the job"....

[mixmanmash]

Job security is a myth. Career security...less so.

This is true whether you look in from the left or from the right. Was true before Harper became PM and will be true after he's done. Which will be two elections from now.


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You think he has even a chance of winning the next election?

Well seeing as how there arent any other real choices....yes...

I'm willing to give the Liberals a try.  I see no reason they wouldn't do better then the Harper dynasty.

I dont like the fact that most voters in Canada, myself included, end up with the dilemma of whos going to be least crook and screw up the country the least.....hardly the whole "best man for the job"....

Very true.  It's like we're voting for the best out of the worst.

[Fobroader]

Job security is a myth. Career security...less so.

This is true whether you look in from the left or from the right. Was true before Harper became PM and will be true after he's done. Which will be two elections from now.


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You think he has even a chance of winning the next election?

Well seeing as how there arent any other real choices....yes...

I'm willing to give the Liberals a try.  I see no reason they wouldn't do better then the Harper dynasty.

I dont like the fact that most voters in Canada, myself included, end up with the dilemma of whos going to be least crook and screw up the country the least.....hardly the whole "best man for the job"....

Very true.  It's like we're voting for the best out of the worst.

Thats what its ending up as.....

[PJ]

Job security is a myth. Career security...less so.

This is true whether you look in from the left or from the right. Was true before Harper became PM and will be true after he's done. Which will be two elections from now.


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You think he has even a chance of winning the next election?

Well seeing as how there arent any other real choices....yes...

I'm willing to give the Liberals a try.  I see no reason they wouldn't do better then the Harper dynasty.

I dont like the fact that most voters in Canada, myself included, end up with the dilemma of whos going to be least crook and screw up the country the least.....hardly the whole "best man for the job"....

LOL you should check out BC politics.  Everyone complained about the Liberals and said they were going to vote them out in the last election... and they won another majority.

Reason is the Consevative party here is a trainwreck and the NDP is a puppet party to the unions and special interest groups and everyone knows they would bankrupt the province in one term.  People here don't vote for who they want in, they vote to keep people out and settle for who's left.

[tpl]

Job security is a myth. Career security...less so.

This is true whether you look in from the left or from the right. Was true before Harper became PM and will be true after he's done. Which will be two elections from now.


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You think he has even a chance of winning the next election?

Well seeing as how there arent any other real choices....yes...

I'm willing to give the Liberals a try.  I see no reason they wouldn't do better then the Harper dynasty.

I dont like the fact that most voters in Canada, myself included, end up with the dilemma of whos going to be least crook and screw up the country the least.....hardly the whole "best man for the job"....

Very true.  It's like we're voting for the best out of the worst.

It would be nice if there was even a party leader to vote for, no matter what baggage of oily old  crooks and timeservers he/she had.    But we have The Boy, Mr Marx and Mr Charisma. Trudeau the Elder was a rotten PM as was Mulroney but the guys did have some charisma and appeal  and...like it or not, they DID STUFF for the national good.   I would have to agree that the combo of Chretien and Martin, economically were a good team.

[Seafoam]

"I would have to agree that the combo of Chretien and Martin, economically were a good team."  They just benefited from what Mulroney had started.