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Honda and Toyota Adding More Turbos
« on: November 25, 2013, 10:16:08 am »
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Re: Honda and Toyota Adding More Turbos
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2013, 10:20:50 am »
And a DCT.

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Customers who feel the need for speed will be won back, Ito promises, by the latest eight-speed dual-clutch transmission.
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Re: Honda and Toyota Adding More Turbos
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2013, 02:44:17 pm »
Great news!
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Re: Honda and Toyota Adding More Turbos
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2013, 06:21:12 pm »
Interesting. It would be nice to see a Civic offered with that 2.0 turbo. A return to Honda's sporting past would be cool. This also answers my question as to when Honda was considering replacing the V-6 in the Accord, since Hyundai went that way with the Sonata. A smaller turbo engine in the Accord would likely help with the handling a big with the saved weight up front. Very interested to see how this pans out.
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Re: Honda and Toyota Adding More Turbos
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2013, 07:02:28 pm »
Toyota hasn't been making many turbos, but they sure can build them when they want to.
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Re: Honda and Toyota Adding More Turbos
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2013, 07:07:37 pm »
Must have been Ford with their eco-boost engine that their hand.
Maybe also GM ecotech and VW turbos too.
Wait Hyundai and Dodge also make turbos.
So in summary they are just trying to catch up to the other manufacturersm
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Re: Honda and Toyota Adding More Turbos
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2013, 08:38:52 pm »
Honda once had a very successful F1 program with its turbo-charged engine.
That experience, cooling the engine with raw fuel, must have taught Honda
not to use turbo-charged engine in ordinary cars because of poor fuel economy,
dirty exhaust and expensive maintenance. Fast forward to 2013, now with
direct-to-cylinder fuel injection and precise valve and ignition timing control,
automakers can now use turbo-charging on their small engines without much
concern for compression ignition.  With a modest 7psi boost a 10:1 compression
ratio engine turns, in practice, into a 15:1 engine. Yet, today some turbo-charged
engine can operate with regular gas.

The only concern for the modern turbo-charged engine is whether you can trust
something that turns as fast as 100,000rpm in the long run.  At least it requires
more frequent oil changes.
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Re: Honda and Toyota Adding More Turbos
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2013, 08:43:13 pm »
Has Honda ever had a turbo engine in North America? I cant think of one off the top of my head.
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Re: Honda and Toyota Adding More Turbos
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2013, 08:47:08 pm »
Quote from: quadzilla on November 25, 2013, 08:43:13 pm
Has Honda ever had a turbo engine in North America? I cant think of one off the top of my head.

1982-1983 Honda CX500 and Honda CX650 Turbo.   ;D
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Re: Honda and Toyota Adding More Turbos
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2013, 09:00:22 pm »
Quote from: rrocket on November 25, 2013, 08:47:08 pm
Quote from: quadzilla on November 25, 2013, 08:43:13 pm
Has Honda ever had a turbo engine in North America? I cant think of one off the top of my head.

1982-1983 Honda CX500 and Honda CX650 Turbo.   ;D

Does the 1st gen RDX count?
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Re: Honda and Toyota Adding More Turbos
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2013, 09:14:39 pm »
Quote from: normancw on November 25, 2013, 09:00:22 pm
Quote from: rrocket on November 25, 2013, 08:47:08 pm
Quote from: quadzilla on November 25, 2013, 08:43:13 pm
Has Honda ever had a turbo engine in North America? I cant think of one off the top of my head.

1982-1983 Honda CX500 and Honda CX650 Turbo.   ;D

Does the 1st gen RDX count?

I was thinking the same thing. That's gotta count for something...
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Re: Honda and Toyota Adding More Turbos
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2013, 01:38:28 pm »
Quote from: Black Hatch on November 25, 2013, 07:07:37 pm
Must have been Ford with their eco-boost engine that their hand.

I hate that Ford calls it "Ecoboost", but I'm going to have to concede that it was brilliant marketing.  Absolutely brilliant.
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Re: Honda and Toyota Adding More Turbos
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2013, 01:42:16 pm »
Please Toyota...make another one of these....PLEASE!!!   :'(


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Re: Honda and Toyota Adding More Turbos
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2013, 02:01:57 pm »
It will end in tears.
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Re: Honda and Toyota Adding More Turbos
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2013, 02:05:29 pm »
Quote from: Spheric on November 26, 2013, 02:01:57 pm
It will end in tears.

Are ya thinking something like a 600cc motor with a turbo.....  :(
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Re: Honda and Toyota Adding More Turbos
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2013, 09:42:03 am »
Quote from: Fobroader on November 26, 2013, 02:05:29 pm
Quote from: Spheric on November 26, 2013, 02:01:57 pm
It will end in tears.

Are ya thinking something like a 600cc motor with a turbo.....  :(

Yep...I can see a whole bunch of small base engines (say a 1.6 litre) combined with an overstressed, always running turbo (let's just call hypothetically call it an 'eco-boost'), trying to propel something as heavy as an SUV, which we shall hypothetically call an 'Explorer'.....  ??? ::) ;D
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Re: Honda and Toyota Adding More Turbos
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2013, 10:15:40 am »
Quote from: Spheric on November 28, 2013, 09:42:03 am
Quote from: Fobroader on November 26, 2013, 02:05:29 pm
Quote from: Spheric on November 26, 2013, 02:01:57 pm
It will end in tears.

Are ya thinking something like a 600cc motor with a turbo.....  :(

Yep...I can see a whole bunch of small base engines (say a 1.6 litre) combined with an overstressed, always running turbo (let's just call hypothetically call it an 'eco-boost'), trying to propel something as heavy as an SUV, which we shall hypothetically call an 'Explorer'.....  ??? ::) ;D

Naaaahhh....no one is foolish enough to think that a constantly boosting turbo motor straining its small little CC heart out will be more efficient than a properly sized naturally aspirated motor...are they??  ;D
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Re: Honda and Toyota Adding More Turbos
« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2013, 10:34:36 am »
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Re: Honda and Toyota Adding More Turbos
« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2013, 04:17:37 pm »
VW does turbo hybrids.  I think it's a great idea to mask turbo-lag as well.
If the tranny is well-programmed, the transition is seemless and torque is plentiful.  0-30 times can be outrageously good.
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Re: Honda and Toyota Adding More Turbos
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