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Test Drive: 2014 Subaru Forester XT
« on: October 28, 2013, 06:28:47 am »


Subaru's Forester XT moves up a weight class and impresses Tom with its list of improvements.

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Re: Test Drive: 2014 Subaru Forester XT
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2013, 10:18:28 am »
My wife an I are contemplating a replacement for the Ridgeline as a cottage hauler and daily driver for her. We require AWD competence in isolated areas during all (re: winter) conditions and good gravel/washboard handling.

We were thinking maybe Outback but this new Forrester XT might be a better choice.

The pondering continues.

BTW. Nice review…and helpful.

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Re: Test Drive: 2014 Subaru Forester XT
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2013, 10:20:13 am »
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It’s tough to explain, but somehow, the new Forester has a more planted appearance when it’s on the road. That might have to do with the additional width.

Unfortunately, it's not the width, so much as the lowered front bumper - hurts the approach angle, too...I'm a little concerned, since wifey tends to power out of steep driveways without a second thought.

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I averaged 10.6 L/100 km (22 mpg) during my week with it. That was mostly slow city commuting, and when I had the space, I drove it hard. More about that later as well. The tank holds 60 L. By the way, you can run the XT harm-free on regular fuel with the loss of only a few horsepower.

10.6L/100km is a heck of a lot better than the 11.4L/100km I get while pu$$yfooting it on premium juice.  When I leave the Fozzie with the missus for a week, I've seen it as high as 19.2L/100km.  Yikes.  The 60L tank is 5L less than our 2011, but the 'theoretical' range is increased by the better efficiency.  Weight reduction and better interior packaging, I guess.

Still, "loss of only a few hp" is a bit of an understatement - you'd drop to about 230hp, assuming there's no ethanol in the regular stuff...oh wait, in Ontario, pretty much every station has it in 87 octane.  Just pony up the extra few bucks per tank and enjoy your engine properly.  The FA20 has a relatively high compression ratio for a turbocharged engine (10.6:1).

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Overhead are probably the tallest, and possibly the narrowest, sun visors I’ve ever seen
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Bracketing the rear-view mirror are two bulging camera pods.

...and there's your answer as to why that is.

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OK, well let’s get back to that CVT, shall we?
I still want the S/I drive to be on a rotary dial, or at least for it NOT to default back to "I" every time I turn the car back on.  I'm ok with the CVT if I never have to use "I".  Fuel economy is still better in S or S# than in the 4EAT in my 2011 Forester, yet I'd get more responsive driving.  In the WRX you can do it (despite it being a knob instead of buttons)...it's a simple fix to reprogram the darn buttons, Subaru!

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Well, WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor) was, sadly, not as high as I’d hoped.
Mine, too - she didn't love the CVT in "I" mode...she felt that having it as a default kind of ruined the point in buying a turbo - why spend more for increased power, only to have it dulled by default?!  We view power as a safety feature - if you see some a$$hole coming up behind you fast, floor it.  I would have avoided being rear-ended if I weren't driving a 120hp (when new, at least) '97 Cavalier.  With "I" mode, you have to push 80% or more of throttle tip-in before it'll depart "I" and give you what the engine has in store.  The quest for fuel economy is great, but default to "S" or be able to select whatever you want as your default.  Having to push a button every time I start the car would actually be really, really annoying.

Otherwise on the WAF, she felt that the bigger cabin took away from the cockpit-style feeling.  Otherwise, she really likes the new Forester...but she'd rather buy out our 2011.  I vehemently, from an economic stand-point, refuse to do that though.  Looks like we'll have a 2014 or 2015 (if released in time) on March 14, 2014!

Tom, would you suggest getting the EyeSight/Navi package?  It's $2,400, and honestly, the navi system doesn't seem all that well-reviewed.  I'd rather spend $2,200 on the turbo than $2,400 on nav...EyeSight sounds good, but I'm concerned about how it'll be in the winter, with all that grime (aka salt) we Canucks face.

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Northernridge, the Outback is longer, so you'll be comfortable in it...but the Outback is set to be redesigned (and quite nicely, I hear) soon.  If you're not in a rush, then wait and see.

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Re: Test Drive: 2014 Subaru Forester XT
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2013, 10:23:23 am »
Pricing: 2014 Subaru Forester
Base price (2.0 XT Limited w/ EyeSight): $37,995
Options: none
Freight: $1650
A/C tax: $100
Price as tested: $36,190

Something doesn't look right.

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Re: Test Drive: 2014 Subaru Forester XT
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2013, 10:32:42 am »
Pricing: 2014 Subaru Forester
Base price (2.0 XT Limited w/ EyeSight): $37,995
Options: none
Freight: $1650
A/C tax: $100
Price as tested: $36,190

Something doesn't look right.

Tire tax?
Abmvic fees?

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Re: Test Drive: 2014 Subaru Forester XT
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2013, 11:01:00 am »
Pricing: 2014 Subaru Forester
Base price (2.0 XT Limited w/ EyeSight): $37,995
Options: none
Freight: $1650
A/C tax: $100
Price as tested: $36,190

Something doesn't look right.

Tire tax?
Abmvic fees?

Simple arithmetic?

$39,745 pre-HST (or whatever provincial tax is in force in your province).

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Re: Test Drive: 2014 Subaru Forester XT
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2013, 11:01:58 am »
Pricing: 2014 Subaru Forester
Base price (2.0 XT Limited w/ EyeSight): $37,995
Options: none
Freight: $1650
A/C tax: $100
Price as tested: $36,190

Something doesn't look right.

Woops! That's this week's stuff-up out of the way nice and early.
Fixed now.
FYI it's $39,745.




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Re: Test Drive: 2014 Subaru Forester XT
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2013, 11:06:29 am »
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Tom, would you suggest getting the EyeSight/Navi package?  It's $2,400, and honestly, the navi system doesn't seem all that well-reviewed.  I'd rather spend $2,200 on the turbo than $2,400 on nav...EyeSight sounds good, but I'm concerned about how it'll be in the winter, with all that grime (aka salt) we Canucks face.

The navi system isn't great. It's bogged down in a bad user interface and seems old-tech already. Eye-Sight is cool, but I have never quite understood the attraction to lane departure systems. I guess they can't hurt, but I've never felt they were indispensable. Personally, I'd go with the Limited, leaving the Eye-Sight and Navi off.

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Re: Test Drive: 2014 Subaru Forester XT
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2013, 11:08:48 am »
Pricing: 2014 Subaru Forester
Base price (2.0 XT Limited w/ EyeSight): $37,995
Options: none
Freight: $1650
A/C tax: $100
Price as tested: $36,190

Something doesn't look right.

Tire tax?
Abmvic fees?

Simple arithmetic?

$39,745 pre-HST (or whatever provincial tax is in force in your province).

I wouldn't really know anyways our edmonton Subaru dealer would add a bunch of BS fees.

One comment though, the backup camera I believe uses the smaller screen instead of the large screen.
Makes it less useful than other brands which have larger screens.

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Re: Test Drive: 2014 Subaru Forester XT
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2013, 11:21:26 am »
Pricing: 2014 Subaru Forester
Base price (2.0 XT Limited w/ EyeSight): $37,995
Options: none
Freight: $1650
A/C tax: $100
Price as tested: $36,190

Something doesn't look right.

Tire tax?
Abmvic fees?

Simple arithmetic?

$39,745 pre-HST (or whatever provincial tax is in force in your province).

I wouldn't really know anyways our edmonton Subaru dealer would add a bunch of BS fees.

One comment though, the backup camera I believe uses the smaller screen instead of the large screen.
Makes it less useful than other brands which have larger screens.

I guess that's what happens when you use a third party deck for navi and offer backup camera on models without navi.

I personally wouldn't go for the navi option and just use my phone for navi.

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Re: Test Drive: 2014 Subaru Forester XT
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2013, 11:32:01 am »
Pricing: 2014 Subaru Forester
Base price (2.0 XT Limited w/ EyeSight): $37,995
Options: none
Freight: $1650
A/C tax: $100
Price as tested: $36,190

Something doesn't look right.

Tire tax?
Abmvic fees?

Simple arithmetic?

$39,745 pre-HST (or whatever provincial tax is in force in your province).

I wouldn't really know anyways our edmonton Subaru dealer would add a bunch of BS fees.

One comment though, the backup camera I believe uses the smaller screen instead of the large screen.
Makes it less useful than other brands which have larger screens.

I guess that's what happens when you use a third party deck for navi and offer backup camera on models without navi.

I personally wouldn't go for the navi option and just use my phone for navi.

CX-5 uses the same screen for navi, backup camera, music and bluetooth phone.

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Re: Test Drive: 2014 Subaru Forester XT
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2013, 12:32:08 pm »
This reviews seems like a 180 with the one of a top-trim non-turbo Forester by C&D, which they rated as a total joyless device. From all the articles, it seems my dream config would be base trim, XT suspension, manual tranny and H-K sound system with no nav. Don't think that will show up in the line-up  :(
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Re: Test Drive: 2014 Subaru Forester XT
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2013, 12:45:15 pm »
Just shy of $40k is a lot of money. An XT Premium (not the same as the model tested here on Autos.ca) was tested on a US site last week that was just $28k. Delivery and dealer prep in Canada is exactly double what it is in the US ($825 vs. $1650) doesn't help either. Subaru Canada could really afford to sharpen their collective pencils. Still a nice effort and a great choice for Canadians who live in snowy regions. I guess that explains the higher pricing, they've got a good product that is selling well. Why 'give it away'?

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Re: Test Drive: 2014 Subaru Forester XT
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2013, 01:01:21 pm »
XT sells quite poorly here.

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Re: Test Drive: 2014 Subaru Forester XT
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2013, 01:51:07 pm »
XT sells quite poorly here.

Hey, I'm doing what I can to help change that stat!!!

The navi system isn't great. It's bogged down in a bad user interface and seems old-tech already. Eye-Sight is cool, but I have never quite understood the attraction to lane departure systems. I guess they can't hurt, but I've never felt they were indispensable. Personally, I'd go with the Limited, leaving the Eye-Sight and Navi off.

That's my thought, too, but somehow, it being built-in is a big deal for my lady.  It does help if we drive into the US, where my phone's lack of free-data would be limited...I still think portable GPSs for about $100 are the better deal.  I'd leave it in a (locked) glovebox unless I ever need it, at which point it's quick and easy to pull out and use.

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Re: Test Drive: 2014 Subaru Forester XT
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2013, 02:49:35 pm »
Pricing: 2014 Subaru Forester
Base price (2.0 XT Limited w/ EyeSight): $37,995
Options: none
Freight: $1650
A/C tax: $100
Price as tested: $36,190

Something doesn't look right.

Tire tax?
Abmvic fees?

Simple arithmetic?

$39,745 pre-HST (or whatever provincial tax is in force in your province).

I wouldn't really know anyways our edmonton Subaru dealer would add a bunch of BS fees.

One comment though, the backup camera I believe uses the smaller screen instead of the large screen.
Makes it less useful than other brands which have larger screens.

I guess that's what happens when you use a third party deck for navi and offer backup camera on models without navi.

I personally wouldn't go for the navi option and just use my phone for navi.

CX-5 uses the same screen for navi, backup camera, music and bluetooth phone.

So does most other manufacturers including my MDX.  Subaru's system is from a third party, AFAIK.

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Re: Test Drive: 2014 Subaru Forester XT
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2013, 04:13:24 pm »
From the Subaru Eyesight system, I would only care about having the blind-spot monitoring and backup camera.
Lane departure is when you are tired and really at that point you SHOULD NOT be driving.

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Re: Test Drive: 2014 Subaru Forester XT
« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2013, 05:43:16 pm »
Almost there!  Certainly worthy of a test drive.  Good review!

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Re: Test Drive: 2014 Subaru Forester XT
« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2013, 07:58:37 pm »
Forester has recently won MotorTrend 2014 SUV of the year. I wonder how it will do in AJAC testing...

The one thing that I would change is the center console...in most Subaru's it looks like an after thought... I would like for that top display to be bigger, kind of like Lexus RX....

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Re: Test Drive: 2014 Subaru Forester XT
« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2013, 08:19:26 pm »
The non-turbo 6 speed manual is only one second slower in acceleration to 100 km/h.