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Road Trip: Volkswagen's Great Canadian TDI Clean Diesel Tour
« on: October 24, 2013, 06:30:52 am »


Paul Williams takes a tour in a suite of TDI Volkswagens ' just for the fun of it.

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Re: Road Trip: Volkswagen's Great Canadian TDI Clean Diesel Tour
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2013, 08:21:05 am »
It would of been interesting if the also had a gas engine of each model in the mix

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Re: Road Trip: Volkswagen's Great Canadian TDI Clean Diesel Tour
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2013, 09:06:58 am »
I'd like to see Country of assembly next to all the models on all vehicles in Autos.ca
Auto start would be a cool feature for the diesels. Press button and start glow plug heat up and start up.
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Re: Road Trip: Volkswagen's Great Canadian TDI Clean Diesel Tour
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2013, 09:09:06 am »
''With a key start, the driver has to wait for the glow-plug light to extinguish before cranking the engine''.  I thought that this short waiting time was not necessary since few years with the new diesel engines!  With the 2010 Golf TDI I was renting, I never paid attention to this glow-plug light....Good paper, it is always interesting to read about VW diesel!!

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Re: Road Trip: Volkswagen's Great Canadian TDI Clean Diesel Tour
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2013, 10:06:32 am »
Kudos for VW for finally making the TDI available on entry level Jetta/Golf Wagon.  Hopefully that carried over to the new Golf hatch when it arrives. As an FYI my current average on the 2013 2.5 golf auto I'm driving is 8.8L/100kms in all city driving

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Re: Road Trip: Volkswagen's Great Canadian TDI Clean Diesel Tour
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2013, 11:10:59 am »
Kudos for VW for finally making the TDI available on entry level Jetta/Golf Wagon.  Hopefully that carried over to the new Golf hatch when it arrives. As an FYI my current average on the 2013 2.5 golf auto I'm driving is 8.8L/100kms in all city driving

New Golf hatch looks nice: http://www.caranddriver.com/photo-gallery/2015-volkswagen-golf-photos-and-info-news
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Re: Road Trip: Volkswagen's Great Canadian TDI Clean Diesel Tour
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2013, 11:33:30 am »
It is great to see more diesels becoming available here. I have recently driven around Tuscany in a diesel-powered "leisure activity vehicle", basically a reworked commercial van, in this case with a 1.6 litre Peugeot engine. For sheer lugging power combined with impressive highway performance combined with amazing fuel efficiency, diesels are just about unbeatable, so bring em on.

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Re: Road Trip: Volkswagen's Great Canadian TDI Clean Diesel Tour
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2013, 01:30:38 pm »
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it’s Volkswagen that has been and still is the go-to purveyor of affordable diesel cars,


Heeee no, a 2000$ option on a 20000$ car with an 1-2% addition on finance is not "affordable".

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Re: Road Trip: Volkswagen's Great Canadian TDI Clean Diesel Tour
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2013, 01:45:52 pm »
I think that the average transaction cost of a new car in Canada is around $30,000 on the road so $20k is cheap enough.
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Re: Road Trip: Volkswagen's Great Canadian TDI Clean Diesel Tour
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2013, 04:58:13 pm »
Still not available on the 'real' base model Jetta, you have to step up a total of $5300 from base price Trendline to get the diesel on the Trendline+.  That being said, no one wants the base Trendline with no A/C or cruise anyway...

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Re: Road Trip: Volkswagen's Great Canadian TDI Clean Diesel Tour
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2013, 05:19:26 pm »
When I read the title, I figured TTBob was coming to visit the rest of us...

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Re: Road Trip: Volkswagen's Great Canadian TDI Clean Diesel Tour
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2013, 06:02:26 pm »
It's too bad they couldn't remove the politics of pricing when it comes to diesel.  Today it's a 15 cent premium over reg unleaded!  How can that be justified?  The pricing volatility is the keeping many potential buyers away IMO.

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Re: Road Trip: Volkswagen's Great Canadian TDI Clean Diesel Tour
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2013, 07:30:42 pm »
It's too bad they couldn't remove the politics of pricing when it comes to diesel.  Today it's a 15 cent premium over reg unleaded!  How can that be justified?  The pricing volatility is the keeping many potential buyers away IMO.
Because the east coast uses oil for heating , therefore less for cars

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Re: Road Trip: Volkswagen's Great Canadian TDI Clean Diesel Tour
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2013, 07:39:00 pm »
It's too bad they couldn't remove the politics of pricing when it comes to diesel.  Today it's a 15 cent premium over reg unleaded!  How can that be justified?  The pricing volatility is the keeping many potential buyers away IMO.
Because the east coast uses oil for heating , therefore less for cars

So does that mean it's less volatile the further west you go?  Does the price of propane/natural gas fluctuate as much out there?  Hard to believe it's that simple!  :-\

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Re: Road Trip: Volkswagen's Great Canadian TDI Clean Diesel Tour
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2013, 09:34:44 pm »
It's too bad they couldn't remove the politics of pricing when it comes to diesel.  Today it's a 15 cent premium over reg unleaded!  How can that be justified?  The pricing volatility is the keeping many potential buyers away IMO.
Because the east coast uses oil for heating , therefore less for cars

So does that mean it's less volatile the further west you go?  Does the price of propane/natural gas fluctuate as much out there?  Hard to believe it's that simple!  :-\

Not that simple but close
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-drive/green-driving/news-and-notes/the-great-diesel-price-conspiracy/article545429/

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Re: Road Trip: Volkswagen's Great Canadian TDI Clean Diesel Tour
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2013, 10:00:18 pm »
It's too bad they couldn't remove the politics of pricing when it comes to diesel.  Today it's a 15 cent premium over reg unleaded!  How can that be justified?  The pricing volatility is the keeping many potential buyers away IMO.
Because the east coast uses oil for heating , therefore less for cars

So does that mean it's less volatile the further west you go?  Does the price of propane/natural gas fluctuate as much out there?  Hard to believe it's that simple!  :-\

Not that simple but close
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-drive/green-driving/news-and-notes/the-great-diesel-price-conspiracy/article545429/

Interesting read!  So that must mean sulfur is extracted at the diesel stage of the cracking process as I don't recall sulfur being an issue with gasoline.  The higher tax rate is what i was referring to about the politics. We know how Americans hate to pay taxes and what sells there dictates what gets sold here.  I still may take the diesel plunge myself soon, but that volatility is irritating.

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Re: Road Trip: Volkswagen's Great Canadian TDI Clean Diesel Tour
« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2013, 10:26:17 pm »
It's too bad they couldn't remove the politics of pricing when it comes to diesel.  Today it's a 15 cent premium over reg unleaded!  How can that be justified?  The pricing volatility is the keeping many potential buyers away IMO.
Because the east coast uses oil for heating , therefore less for cars

So does that mean it's less volatile the further west you go?  Does the price of propane/natural gas fluctuate as much out there?  Hard to believe it's that simple!  :-\

Not that simple but close
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-drive/green-driving/news-and-notes/the-great-diesel-price-conspiracy/article545429/

Interesting read!  So that must mean sulfur is extracted at the diesel stage of the cracking process as I don't recall sulfur being an issue with gasoline. The higher tax rate is what i was referring to about the politics. We know how Americans hate to pay taxes and what sells there dictates what gets sold here.  I still may take the diesel plunge myself soon, but that volatility is irritating.

That happened back in 2003-05.

http://canadianfuels.ca/index_e.php?p=158

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Re: Road Trip: Volkswagen's Great Canadian TDI Clean Diesel Tour
« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2013, 10:32:37 pm »
It's too bad they couldn't remove the politics of pricing when it comes to diesel.  Today it's a 15 cent premium over reg unleaded!  How can that be justified?  The pricing volatility is the keeping many potential buyers away IMO.
Because the east coast uses oil for heating , therefore less for cars

So does that mean it's less volatile the further west you go?  Does the price of propane/natural gas fluctuate as much out there?  Hard to believe it's that simple!  :-\

Not that simple but close
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-drive/green-driving/news-and-notes/the-great-diesel-price-conspiracy/article545429/

Interesting read!  So that must mean sulfur is extracted at the diesel stage of the cracking process as I don't recall sulfur being an issue with gasoline. The higher tax rate is what i was referring to about the politics. We know how Americans hate to pay taxes and what sells there dictates what gets sold here.  I still may take the diesel plunge myself soon, but that volatility is irritating.

That happened back in 2003-05.

http://canadianfuels.ca/index_e.php?p=158

Funny, I just hooked onto that link a few minutes before you posted it. Wish I had of read it BEFORE my previous post!  :) 

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Re: Road Trip: Volkswagen's Great Canadian TDI Clean Diesel Tour
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2013, 10:49:57 am »
It's too bad they couldn't remove the politics of pricing when it comes to diesel.  Today it's a 15 cent premium over reg unleaded!  How can that be justified?  The pricing volatility is the keeping many potential buyers away IMO.

In Canada average price of diesel through the year is the same as regular.  The cold parts of year diesel is about 10-15% more, but during summer diesel is 10-15% cheaper than regular. 

In USA is a different story where diesel is pretty much always more expensive than regular and this is the main barrier to seeing more diesels in North America.

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Re: Road Trip: Volkswagen's Great Canadian TDI Clean Diesel Tour
« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2013, 07:43:04 pm »


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Couldn't help but take these pictures on my way back from Florida last week. 
I'm not holding my breadth as to widespread acceptance of diesels south of the border just yet...
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