Topic: Test Drive: 2013 Scion 10 FR-S

[Autos_Editor]

The FR-S 10 Series demonstrates Scion's excellent understanding of its target market.

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[Rupert]

   Is there in fact a target market out there that wants to slide the back end out on a regular basis? I would have thought that slidung any end is not a desired attitude to most folk. But, not-withstanding this perceived yen; I suspect that there are folk out here who find a decently contrived rear drive sporty car, an attractive proposition. The price is plenty enough and power more than ample it would seem. Presumably the short boxer engine is located further back in this configuration; which gives better weight distribution for this car than is usual for RWD. A lot to like for a single person or couple.

[redman]

Man......the only thing that stops me from buying this Tween dream is my wife & kids 
Just don't know where I would place them. My 13 year old is pushing 5'10.

[dkaz]

Same. I'd trade in the 3 in a heartbeat.

[drive67]

More horse power sometimes takes away from the balance of the car this car is meant to be driven on winding roads where you feel as you are part of the car. If you want to compare to a Mustang it would be a 6 cylinder pony not the GT. It should not come with an automatic or tested with one, reviewers should not complain about putting in a baby seat or that you cannot put a shelving unit from Ikea in the back. I compare this with drivers cars from Asia and Europe with 4 cylinders not American muscle seating for four. On a drivers challenge the FRS, Mustang and Camaro all had worn out brakes which is disappointing for the FRS since they should of bean able to take corners with limited braking.

[opg210]

Good article, would love one of these if I had enough days when I could leave the house on my own.

Not sure I'd want a turbo on this, unless it was extremely well done with no lag. For a car that's all about feel, a turbo can be a pain in the @ss if boost comes on too quickly, it upsets the balance and makes carving a nice curve more difficult. My old WRX (2002) was interesting when you were trying to fool around with it; lots of low speed understeer and you couldn't use the go pedal to counter it, you'd just lunge forward wildly once the boost came on, still pushing away at the front end. If you wanted to enjoy the power in a curve you'd have to do some sort of Scandinavian flick to get it balanced right, not always practical. With practice it got more fun but I'd have rather had a smooth power curve to enjoy the handling.

[aquadorhj]

easily induced oversteer?  sounds like fun.

[johngenx]

 My old WRX (2002)

Those Subaru 2.0L turbo engines suffered from HORRIBLE turbo lag, maybe worse than the old 3.0L 911 turbo engines.  There's lots of boosted engines around now that make power down low and as soon as you're in it.

[redman]

easily induced oversteer?  sounds like fun.

Yep, it beats most car setups today that are purposely set up with easily induced understeer for "safety".

[opg210]

 My old WRX (2002)

Those Subaru 2.0L turbo engines suffered from HORRIBLE turbo lag, maybe worse than the old 3.0L 911 turbo engines.  There's lots of boosted engines around now that make power down low and as soon as you're in it.

I bet. I should get out more.

[Snowman]

I always chime in with the same comment - the chassis can handle more power and I'd certainly be wanting more. I wouldn't want too much, 300 would be just about perfect IMO.

  I would be happy with 275-300.

[dkaz]

Has anyone who's actually driven the car wished for more power? I think the power is good for what the car is intending to be, a fast everywhere car, not a fast on straights car. The Hyundai Genesis Coupe would serve as a good fast on straights car. The FRS is just an all round absolute joy to drive. I did accelerate it hard at one point once I was used to it and it pushed pretty hard.

What Toyota needs to do next is bring back the Supra. In unadulterated internal combustion engine only format. Leave the FRS alone!

[dkaz]

Watch Initial D on Netflix if you haven't watched it, or if it's been awhile since you have watched it. It's a silly Japanese Animation about an 84 Toyota Corolla GTS which the Scion FRS is based on that belongs to an owner of a tofu shop, but driven hard by his teenaged son through mountain passes who otherwise finds the task of delivering tofu menial. You'll quickly get what the Scion FRS is all about.

[Fobroader]

Watch Initial D on Netflix if you haven't watched it, or if it's been awhile since you have watched it. It's a silly Japanese Animation about an 84 Toyota Corolla GTS which the Scion FRS is based on that belongs to an owner of a tofu shop, but driven hard by his teenaged son through mountain passes who otherwise finds the task of delivering tofu menial.

Great car movie. This FR-S sounds awesome, who doesnt want a controllable, tail out sports car!! Sounds like a great car in which to become the neighborhood drift king 

[Snowman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY7v3pqtSaE

[Fobroader]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY7v3pqtSaE

  I know what Im doing for the next two hours at work 

[aquadorhj]

Watch Initial D on Netflix if you haven't watched it, or if it's been awhile since you have watched it. It's a silly Japanese Animation about an 84 Toyota Corolla GTS which the Scion FRS is based on that belongs to an owner of a tofu shop, but driven hard by his teenaged son through mountain passes who otherwise finds the task of delivering tofu menial.

Great car movie. This FR-S sounds awesome, who doesnt want a controllable, tail out sports car!! Sounds like a great car in which to become the neighborhood drift king 

dorifuto...     not that i've ever done it..   never done burn out either.. 

[toolatecrew]

Good article, would love one of these if I had enough days when I could leave the house on my own.

Not sure I'd want a turbo on this, unless it was extremely well done with no lag. For a car that's all about feel, a turbo can be a pain in the @ss if boost comes on too quickly, it upsets the balance and makes carving a nice curve more difficult. My old WRX (2002) was interesting when you were trying to fool around with it; lots of low speed understeer and you couldn't use the go pedal to counter it, you'd just lunge forward wildly once the boost came on, still pushing away at the front end. If you wanted to enjoy the power in a curve you'd have to do some sort of Scandinavian flick to get it balanced right, not always practical. With practice it got more fun but I'd have rather had a smooth power curve to enjoy the handling.

Find your answer here

http://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/track-tests/2013-scion-fr-s-track-tested.html

Doesn't really sound worth it.

[aquadorhj]

Good article, would love one of these if I had enough days when I could leave the house on my own.

Not sure I'd want a turbo on this, unless it was extremely well done with no lag. For a car that's all about feel, a turbo can be a pain in the @ss if boost comes on too quickly, it upsets the balance and makes carving a nice curve more difficult. My old WRX (2002) was interesting when you were trying to fool around with it; lots of low speed understeer and you couldn't use the go pedal to counter it, you'd just lunge forward wildly once the boost came on, still pushing away at the front end. If you wanted to enjoy the power in a curve you'd have to do some sort of Scandinavian flick to get it balanced right, not always practical. With practice it got more fun but I'd have rather had a smooth power curve to enjoy the handling.

Find your answer here

http://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/track-tests/2013-scion-fr-s-track-tested.html

Doesn't really sound worth it.

umm.. that edmunds car is strange...  with that power figure and the weight of FRS, it should be on par with e46 m3..  better yet, it should be faster, with better power to weight.    but that's not as quick as one would expect.

[Fobroader]

Good article, would love one of these if I had enough days when I could leave the house on my own.

Not sure I'd want a turbo on this, unless it was extremely well done with no lag. For a car that's all about feel, a turbo can be a pain in the @ss if boost comes on too quickly, it upsets the balance and makes carving a nice curve more difficult. My old WRX (2002) was interesting when you were trying to fool around with it; lots of low speed understeer and you couldn't use the go pedal to counter it, you'd just lunge forward wildly once the boost came on, still pushing away at the front end. If you wanted to enjoy the power in a curve you'd have to do some sort of Scandinavian flick to get it balanced right, not always practical. With practice it got more fun but I'd have rather had a smooth power curve to enjoy the handling.

Find your answer here

http://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/track-tests/2013-scion-fr-s-track-tested.html

Doesn't really sound worth it.

Thats the most useless supercharger Ive ever seen.....somethings very wrong.