Author Topic: My Vehicular History Thread by DKaz (Read 126174 times)

dkaz · « **Reply #540 on:** March 28, 2024, 11:09:58 am »

Both cool. I'm just done with the quirkiness of 90s vehicles as a daily driver. My Fiesta ruined 2000s era cars for me even.

I was trying to look for a unicorn Suzuki XL7 7 seater manual transmission. The few manuals I found were 5 seaters and I found one 7 seaters in the US midwest that was beat up. Then it was a matter of figuring out if I could live with the 2000s quirks.

Great_Big_Abyss · « **Reply #541 on:** March 28, 2024, 11:10:36 am »

The 2nd Gen Mazda5 partially used the same C-Platform as the 2nd gen Ford C-Max.

The first gen5 was essentially a mechanical clone to the first gen C-Max.

I think Mazda sold far, far more 5's than Ford sold C-Max's in this continent. I think I've only ever seen a couple of C-Max's in my life.

OliverD · « **Reply #542 on:** March 28, 2024, 11:12:33 am »

Quote from: Great_Big_Abyss on March 28, 2024, 11:10:36 am

The 2nd Gen Mazda5 partially used the same C-Platform as the 2nd gen Ford C-Max.

The first gen5 was essentially a mechanical clone to the first gen C-Max.

I think Mazda sold far, far more 5's than Ford sold C-Max's in this continent. I think I've only ever seen a couple of C-Max's in my life.

A colleague of my wife's actually had a C-Max fairly recently. I recall seeing them around occasionally for a while, but I think the fact that it was hybrid-only limited its appeal.

dkaz · « **Reply #543 on:** March 28, 2024, 11:23:24 am »

They scrapped the 7 seater gas Grand C-Max plans and just brought the 5-seater hybrid instead. The similar Prius V also didn't do too well other than being popular with taxis. I thought this 2012 Mazda 5 retained the same platform that underpinned the 2000s Mazda 3/5, Ford Focus, and Volvo S40/V50. I'm curious to see how many components are still FoMoCo stamped.

tortoise · « **Reply #544 on:** March 28, 2024, 11:45:48 am »

Quote from: Great_Big_Abyss on March 28, 2024, 11:10:36 am

The 2nd Gen Mazda5 partially used the same C-Platform as the 2nd gen Ford C-Max.

My understanding is that both generations of Mazda5 share the same platform.

ktm525 · « **Reply #545 on:** March 28, 2024, 11:52:51 am »

The introduction of the small overlap test likely contributed to Mazda not building a new gen or extending the old one?

https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/mazda/5-4-door-wagon/2015

me_2 · « **Reply #546 on:** March 28, 2024, 12:34:48 pm »

Quote from: dkaz on March 22, 2024, 07:26:28 pm

2012, so still 12 years old. but the paint is immaculate, just needs a polish and ceramic coating, no rust like most Vancouver cars.

Congrats on the new to you Mazda 5. I love this concept on rationalization of the internal available space vs external footprint.

According to https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/mazda-5-sales-figures/, only 5,267 units were sold in Canada in 2012 and it was their bigger year.

OliverD · « **Reply #547 on:** March 28, 2024, 12:41:24 pm »

Only? That's a pretty big number. Only 1/3 of what was sold in the U.S. in a market 1/10 the size.

me_2 · « **Reply #548 on:** March 28, 2024, 12:47:28 pm »

OK, maybe not that small, that is fairly true the Canada market is a much smaller one than at the south of the border.

Volt figure is smaller than the 5 for comparison : https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/chevrolet-volt-sales-figures/

dkaz · « **Reply #549 on:** March 28, 2024, 01:34:04 pm »

The European Mazda 5 numbers aren't as good as I thought they would've been, other than 2006 and 2007. I wonder if they also discontinued it in Europe in 2015 like they did in the USA. Canada continued to get the Mazda 5 into the 2017 model year. Most of it heading to Quebec I think. Quebec was the primary reason small premium manual transmissions existed in Canada and even they've been lured into the CUV craze.

Quote from: ktm525 on March 28, 2024, 11:52:51 am

The introduction of the small overlap test likely contributed to Mazda not building a new gen or extending the old one?

https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/mazda/5-4-door-wagon/2015

I've never owned a car that's done great in the small overlap test before so I'm not missing out on anything.

My partner's Kia Soul did well. We are planning on trading it in for an ID.Buzz at some point.

ktm525 · « **Reply #550 on:** March 28, 2024, 01:59:02 pm »

fair enough. You can see a lot of cars getting discontinued around the time of the new overlap.

Great_Big_Abyss · « **Reply #551 on:** March 28, 2024, 02:16:03 pm »

Meh, it's not like they're any less safe than they were before the test was introduced, they're just not as safe as cars that pass the test...

dkaz · « **Reply #552 on:** March 28, 2024, 02:27:39 pm »

KTM is just noting as more requirements are added, the two best ways to deal with the added costs are to 1. Increase the price, 2. Increase volume which spreads out the price but gets rid of the low volume stuff. Automakers are going after both if possible, they like the higher profit margins of CUVs and every typical person wants them.

But yes, my first Sienna and Odyssey were ranked among the safest vehicles on the road at the time they were released. Both would fail the small overlap test.

ktm525 · « **Reply #553 on:** March 28, 2024, 02:36:26 pm »

bingo. the small overlap killed off a lot of niche neat stuff.

Bubba · « **Reply #554 on:** March 28, 2024, 06:38:01 pm »

Quote from: ktm525 on March 28, 2024, 10:18:58 am

I can't recall the last time I saw a 5 on the roads. Will keep my eyes peeled but they are not common.

Saw a silver 5 on my way home today.

dkaz · « **Reply #555 on:** March 30, 2024, 01:51:44 am »

Got it!

It drives amazing so far. Smells mostly like a new car. My partner is amazed with how mint it is inside and out. Will give a more in depth review later, just enjoying our time in Vancouver doing all the things.

tortoise · « **Reply #556 on:** March 30, 2024, 07:58:55 am »

Right on! Great find. Have fun in Vancouver and enjoy the trip home.

Bubba · « **Reply #557 on:** March 30, 2024, 09:30:28 am »

Quote from: dkaz on March 30, 2024, 01:51:44 am

Got it!

It drives amazing so far. Smells mostly like a new car. My partner is amazed with how mint it is inside and out. Will give a more in depth review later, just enjoying our time in Vancouver doing all the things.

revalations · « **Reply #558 on:** March 30, 2024, 10:10:45 am »

Hard to find unit for sure. Glad you found a nice one. Safe travels home, it’s a beautiful drive for sure.

ktm525 · « **Reply #559 on:** March 30, 2024, 10:39:08 am »

This is going back to Edmonton?