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How do you tell a senior that maybe they shouldn't be driving
« on: August 21, 2013, 01:41:16 pm »
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Re: How do you tell a senior that maybe they shouldn't be driving
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2013, 01:42:59 pm »
Call doctor, deed done.
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Re: How do you tell a senior that maybe they shouldn't be driving
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2013, 01:44:36 pm »
Yup, the doctor would be the easiest way.
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Re: How do you tell a senior that maybe they shouldn't be driving
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2013, 01:47:50 pm »
Yup, the doctor would be the easiest way.

If you know who her family doctor is I'd give them a call and express your concerns.
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Re: How do you tell a senior that maybe they shouldn't be driving
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2013, 02:23:43 pm »
I received this e-mail from my 87 year old Mother yesterday. In this case I didn't have to say anything, she decided for herself.
Railton

Hi  - Thought I'd let you know I said Goodbye to my car today !
Peter mentioned at your place that he had a customer who wanted a good
cheap car.  He got in touch with him and the man said "I will take
your word for it and I don't have to see it"  Today was the day Peter
goes to the auctions and gets home early so Jean drove Peter over this
adternoon and he drove it home.  Will take it to Stayner tomorrow -
and save me the plates.   He also gave me a check for $1850.  which is
$200 more than Dean offered me for it.  I guess that is about as much
as I could get for it....you think ?  Anyway the deal is done
--without any trouble.  It may take me awhile to get used to it not
being here but I don't feel too bad about it.  I think it was time.
Hope everyone is good -- Enjoy the pool in this hot spell.  Love.  Mom
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Re: How do you tell a senior that maybe they shouldn't be driving
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2013, 02:32:19 pm »
Take the car keys, move it somewhere else, then pretend you know nothing about it when the senior person goes out to find the car and it's not there.


...ok, maybe that's too extreme. 



i feel sad just imagining the day I would have to give up driving.    maybe i'll buy a ferrari and it will flame up while i'm in it..  that way i can say I went out driving a ferrari in a fireball.   ;D

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Re: How do you tell a senior that maybe they shouldn't be driving
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2013, 03:07:34 pm »
Not an easy task but a necessary one. A motorcyclist was killed in Quebec yesterday when a senior turned in his path. The newspaper reported that police asked that the senior ability to drive be evaluated.

Too late for that poor guy on the bike.

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Re: How do you tell a senior that maybe they shouldn't be driving
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2013, 03:15:40 pm »
Yes Doctors have these wonderful powers to decide whether Mom or Dad should no longer drive and they take away the family feuds in the process. My MIL was 84 when she quit, but she went down fighting. It really is their independence being taken away. Good for those who decide on their own.

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Re: How do you tell a senior that maybe they shouldn't be driving
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2013, 03:21:39 pm »
My grandmother was in her mid-eighties when she almost collided with another car on a roundabout. The other guy followed her home and lined her out. That was the last time she drove. She sold the car to my cousin not long after.

We really should have spoken to her about it sooner.
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Re: How do you tell a senior that maybe they shouldn't be driving
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2013, 04:42:53 pm »
I concur, family doctor.

We're all going to be seniors one day.   Maybe cars will drive themselves by then.   I wonder if I'll be one of those they are going to have to rip the steering wheel from my stone cold dead hands. 



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How do you tell a senior that maybe they shouldn't be driving
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2013, 05:20:05 pm »
My mother always claimed that "we" took away her license, but it was a doctor...and I'm glad they did.  Still, it's tough to do, no matter who does it.

My mil is 80, and she's a good but cautious driver.  If she ever gets bad or scary, we'll let her know.



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Re: How do you tell a senior that maybe they shouldn't be driving
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2013, 10:20:25 pm »
Thanks for the idea of talking to her doctor. I believe my sister in law knows her doctor, so when I see her today, I will mention this to her. I would think if she printed the email (she was the one that sent it to us) to the doctor, he will know what to do.

Railton, good for your mother, to realize that its time. I'm mid 60s now, so maybe another 10 years of driving. Definitely not driving when I'm 80.
Yes, in the end it was her distance judgment that made her uncomfortable. She lives in a condo and has underground parking.
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Re: How do you tell a senior that maybe they shouldn't be driving
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2013, 10:47:09 pm »
You know, in my weekly travels I see a few cases of "give up the keys." For all the flak young drivers get some of the stuff I see our lovable seniors doing is freakin' nuts.

PS, doctor.

The most obvious thing about driving a lot in Florida. Lots of people who should hang them up for good.

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Re: How do you tell a senior that maybe they shouldn't be driving
« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2013, 10:33:50 am »
FYI, anyone can contact the provincial registrar and start the ball rolling, it does not have to be a doctor. 

Here's some helpful advice:

How to talk to a loved one about driving concerns

Driver safety can often be a sensitive issue for older drivers. A driver’s license signifies more than the ability to drive a car; it is a symbol of freedom and self-sufficiency. Understandably, driving is not a privilege that anyone wants to relinquish willingly. Still, safety must come first.

Some older drivers may be aware of their faltering ability but still be reluctant to give up driving completely. Another person’s concerns may force the senior driver to act. They may even feel relieved to have someone else help make the decision to stop driving. Some seniors may forget that they aren’t supposed to drive. If that is the case, it is even more important to remove the car or the keys to make it impossible to drive. If you find yourself in the position of talking to an older friend or family member about their driving, remember the following:
◾Be respectful. For many seniors, driving is an integral part of independence. Many older adults have fond memories of getting a driver’s license. At the same time, don’t be intimidated or back down if you have a true concern.
◾Give specific examples. It’s easier to tune out generalizations like “You just can’t drive safely anymore.” Outline concerns that you have noticed, such as “You have a harder time turning your head than you used to,” or “You braked suddenly at stop signs three times the last time we drove.”
◾Find strength in numbers. If more than one family member or close friend has noticed, it’s less likely to be taken as nagging. A loved one may also listen to a more impartial party, such as a doctor or driving specialist.
◾Help find alternatives. The person may be so used to driving that they have never considered alternatives. You can offer concrete help, such as researching transportation options or offering rides when possible. If your family member is reluctant to ask for help, it can lead to isolation and depression.
◾Understand the difficulty of the transition. Your loved one may experience a profound sense of loss having given up driving. Don’t dismiss their feelings but try to help with the transition as much as possible. If it is safe, try slowly transitioning the senior out of driving to give them time to adjust. For example, your loved one may begin the transition by no longer driving at night or on the freeways, or by using a shuttle service to specific appointments, such as the doctor’s.


When an older driver refuses to give up the keys

Sometimes an older driver has to be stopped from driving over their objections. It might feel very difficult for you to make this call, especially if the senior is a parent or other close figure used to having their independence. However, their safety and the safety of others must come first. An unsafe driver can seriously injure or kill themselves or others.

If appropriate evaluations and recommendations have been made, and no amount of rational discussion has convinced the driver to hand over the car keys, then you may make an anonymous report to your state’s Department of Motor Vehicles (in the U.S. or Canada) or talk to the person’s physician about your concerns. In some cases, there is a need to take further actions such as taking away the car keys, selling or disabling the car, and enlisting the local police to explain the importance of safe driving and the legal implications of unsafe driving.

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Re: How do you tell a senior that maybe they shouldn't be driving
« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2013, 10:51:06 am »
Father in law decides to stop himself after a school bus (empty) twice in the attempt to pull out from behind it. Hopefully you can get this sorted before an accident.

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Re: How do you tell a senior that maybe they shouldn't be driving
« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2013, 10:57:55 am »
I was talking about this with a friend at work.

She had a relative that refused to stop driving even after his license was pulled. One of his daughters eventually took his car to her house in Winnipeg. He apparently had a number of mishaps including fender benders, but there was no way of getting him to accept that he was no longer safe on the road. He eventually got the hang of using the bus and taxis, but he's still really upset with the family.

Tough situation.


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Re: How do you tell a senior that maybe they shouldn't be driving
« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2013, 11:09:21 am »
It's not a surprise that seniors drive well past their ability to cope. Outside of Canada's largest cities, giving up your keys is essentially giving up independent living.

I never managed to talk the seniors in my life out of their car keys, no matter how diplomatic I tried to be.  Health crises took the decision out of their hands, for the most part, but there were some scary looking scratches and dents on one of the cars that we sold after one funeral.

As the saying goes, "I want to die peacefully in my sleep, just like my grandfather. Not screaming in terror like his passengers."
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Re: How do you tell a senior that maybe they shouldn't be driving
« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2013, 11:46:21 am »
Just an update, my sister in law talked to one of her nephews who has power of attorney, thinking that he would see the problem and do what's best for her. Instead when he saw the email about her driving, he just laughed it off. How pathetic is that. I couldn't believe it.

So now my sister in law is going to talk to our friends doctor herself. She is on some medication and we are wondering if that is having an effect on her judgement, as before starting the medication, she certainly had sound judgement.


Sounds like the nephew needs to learn a few "life lessons", which in turn might teach him some compassion and understanding.  Unfortunately, those sort of lessons require being learned the hard way for most people.
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Re: How do you tell a senior that maybe they shouldn't be driving
« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2013, 03:29:33 pm »
I have my 74 year old mother living with us and I monitor her driving, I even go out with her to explain the best routes. On top of her health issues she has been in a state of shock and awe with driving in and the traffic level in Okaville. This is a far cry form a town of 1800 fours hours north of nowhere . She knows better not to go on a 400 series highway  :P.  The issues with older drivers will escalate over the next 10-15 years until all the boomer wave stops driving for good. Be prepared for more incidents.

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Re: How do you tell a senior that maybe they shouldn't be driving
« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2013, 03:38:52 pm »
Most of the incidents of people driving into stores/gas stations Ive seen on the news usually involve seniors....those actually terrify me  :o If you cant decipher the pedals and the difference between D and R...then please stop driving.