Topic: For $53K USD – Cayman or Corvette?

[sailor723]

Great another test from Edmunds using that DOG pre-production Vette. Motor Trends numbers from this month had the Vette at 0-60 in 3.7 and the quarter in 12.0 ) 118.4.

Slappy talk here, but it does get annoying when a car beats another in every measurable category but they give the other car the win based on subjective feelings. 

Also, Rocket, if you don't want the Traction control you can turn the entire system off or tailor the system and choose what you want on and off and at what level...they make no mention of that. 

Yes, but choosing a car (especially up in this market segment) is often a case of looking at all the measurable categories and then going with the subjective "I just like that one better". In this case the Edmunds tester just liked the Porsche.

I really don't think there is a right or wrong answer here. Two great cars with different pros and cons.

[Fobroader]

Yes. End of the day I'm shaking the hand of whoever buys either of these cars. In a manner of speaking they both outperform much more expensive cars.

Samurai sword or broadsword

Broadsword or foam sword....

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[CanuckS2K]

I've obviously never driven both, and while initially I was leaning to the Vette as far as the car I would "choose", I think that I'm now leaning towards the Cayman.  And certainly not because of the Edmunds comparo......No question that I love the looks of the Cayman over the Vette.  I just can't warm up to the Vette's rear profile at all yet.  Having owned an S2000 for four years now and experiencing how much of a driver's car this is, it appears that the Cayman is more similar compared to the Vette.  And that means more to mean than any 0-60, 1/4 mile, or track numbers etc that I won't have a chance to duplicate in daily driving.  Seems like the Cayman would be a better fit for me. 

[rrocket]

I've still never driven both, and while initially I was leaning to the Vette as far as the car I would "choose", I think that I'm now leaning towards the Cayman.  And certainly not because of the Edmunds comparo......No question that I love the looks of the Cayman over the Vette.  I just can't warm up to the Vette's rear profile at all yet.  Having owned an S2000 for four years now and experiencing how much of a driver's car this is, it appears that the Cayman is more similar compared to the Vette.  And that means more to mean than any 0-60, 1/4 mile, or track numbers etc that I won't have a chance to duplicate in daily driving.  Seems like the Cayman would be a better fit for me.

The S2000 reminds me of a Cayman/Boxster.  Think of everything you love about the S2000, then amp it up some more..and you have a Cayman/Boxster.  If, as a driver's car, the S2000 is a "10", the Cayman/Boxster turns it up to "11".

[Snowman]

I've still never driven both, and while initially I was leaning to the Vette as far as the car I would "choose", I think that I'm now leaning towards the Cayman.  And certainly not because of the Edmunds comparo......No question that I love the looks of the Cayman over the Vette.  I just can't warm up to the Vette's rear profile at all yet.  Having owned an S2000 for four years now and experiencing how much of a driver's car this is, it appears that the Cayman is more similar compared to the Vette.  And that means more to mean than any 0-60, 1/4 mile, or track numbers etc that I won't have a chance to duplicate in daily driving.  Seems like the Cayman would be a better fit for me.

The S2000 reminds me of a Cayman/Boxster.  Think of everything you love about the S2000, then amp it up some more..and you have a Cayman/Boxster.  If, as a driver's car, the S2000 is a "10", the Cayman/Boxster turns it up to "11".

I drove the new Boxster S with PDK on the hooning route I take the S2000 and I would say I agree 100% with you. I should have taken a Cayman S with MT6 to slow the shifting down but the PDK is crazy!

[rrocket]

^^Best autobox on the market IMO.  Makes you forget about shifting your own.

[CanuckS2K]

I've never driven a P car with the PDK, and while every single thing that I've heard and read about it suggest that's it's awesome, I still wanna row my own gears in this type of car.  I'd be very interested in driving one though, given the chance. 

[rrocket]

I've never driven a P car with the PDK, and while every single thing that I've heard and read about it suggest that's it's awesome, I still wanna row my own gears in this type of car.  I'd be very interested in driving one though, given the chance.

It feels race car fast.  Put it this way...I was disappointed with the manual after I drove the PDK.

[CanuckS2K]

I've never driven a P car with the PDK, and while every single thing that I've heard and read about it suggest that's it's awesome, I still wanna row my own gears in this type of car.  I'd be very interested in driving one though, given the chance.

It feels race car fast.  Put it this way...I was disappointed with the manual after I drove the PDK.

The thing for me though is that I don't care whatsoever about how fast it shifts.  I just have more fun rowing my own gears.  If the S2000 had a PDK like tranny I wouldn't find it as enjoyable to drive. 

[rrocket]

I've never driven a P car with the PDK, and while every single thing that I've heard and read about it suggest that's it's awesome, I still wanna row my own gears in this type of car.  I'd be very interested in driving one though, given the chance.

It feels race car fast.  Put it this way...I was disappointed with the manual after I drove the PDK.

The thing for me though is that I don't care whatsoever about how fast it shifts.  I just have more fun rowing my own gears.  If the S2000 had a PDK like tranny I wouldn't find it as enjoyable to drive.

I mean...after rowing the S2000 gears....the Boxster/Cayman one isn't as good.  PDK is more satisfying because of that.

[Fobroader]

The two were compared on track by Edmunds. Spoiler alert...the Cayman wins although the C7 is faster everywhere.

Also, there was a massive difference in sticker price.

http://www.edmunds.com/porsche/cayman/2014/comparison-test.html

Was that noise Fobroader's head exploding?

Yea, likely.

But this means something too: 

But it doesn't matter. The Cayman S is a masterfully executed sports car that makes the numbers virtually irrelevant. It lulls its driver into a state of oneness unmatched by the Stingray. And in doing so it wins this test.

Thats fine and great, but the Vette driver will cross the finish line first, with a lot more money in his pocket, an awesome V8 soundtrack and a much better looking car(IMO of course). The Boxster/Cayman might be a nice little convertible, but the Vette will eat the thing alive for breakfast, lunch and dinner......say what you will, you cant argue with performance numbers.

[rrocket]

The two were compared on track by Edmunds. Spoiler alert...the Cayman wins although the C7 is faster everywhere.

Also, there was a massive difference in sticker price.

http://www.edmunds.com/porsche/cayman/2014/comparison-test.html

Was that noise Fobroader's head exploding?

Yea, likely.

But this means something too: 

But it doesn't matter. The Cayman S is a masterfully executed sports car that makes the numbers virtually irrelevant. It lulls its driver into a state of oneness unmatched by the Stingray. And in doing so it wins this test.

Thats fine and great, but the Vette driver will cross the finish line first, with a lot more money in his pocket, an awesome V8 soundtrack and a much better looking car(IMO of course). The Boxster/Cayman might be a nice little convertible, but the Vette will eat the thing alive for breakfast, lunch and dinner......say what you will, you cant argue with performance numbers.

You'll never get it.  Stop bothering to try.  You'll hurt yourself.

[CanuckS2K]

I've never driven a P car with the PDK, and while every single thing that I've heard and read about it suggest that's it's awesome, I still wanna row my own gears in this type of car.  I'd be very interested in driving one though, given the chance.

It feels race car fast.  Put it this way...I was disappointed with the manual after I drove the PDK.

The thing for me though is that I don't care whatsoever about how fast it shifts.  I just have more fun rowing my own gears.  If the S2000 had a PDK like tranny I wouldn't find it as enjoyable to drive.

I mean...after rowing the S2000 gears....the Boxster/Cayman one isn't as good.  PDK is more satisfying because of that.

I guess I'd have to drive both manual and PDK version to understand.  I just always love having the three pedals and shifting my own. 

[CanuckS2K]

Both camps don't get it but that's the point. Both are good cars and people will choose the one they fancy.

It's like arguing what color is better, green or blue. 

Blue.......most defiitely blue!!!!!   

[rrocket]

Both camps don't get it but that's the point. Both are good cars and people will choose the one they fancy.

It's like arguing what color is better, green or blue. 

Yea, but some of us DO get and understand both cars.  I had a Supra that would crush anything..then and now.  So I get the whole "numbers" and all conquering power/performance thing.

But I also get (having driven them) how sublime a sports car the Cayman/Boxsters are.  People can't understand how great they are until they drive one.  It's this that no number can EVER convey, whereas numbers CAN convey how fast a Vette is.

[sailor723]

The two were compared on track by Edmunds. Spoiler alert...the Cayman wins although the C7 is faster everywhere.

Also, there was a massive difference in sticker price.

http://www.edmunds.com/porsche/cayman/2014/comparison-test.html

Was that noise Fobroader's head exploding?

Yea, likely.

But this means something too: 

But it doesn't matter. The Cayman S is a masterfully executed sports car that makes the numbers virtually irrelevant. It lulls its driver into a state of oneness unmatched by the Stingray. And in doing so it wins this test.

Thats fine and great, but the Vette driver will cross the finish line first, with a lot more money in his pocket, an awesome V8 soundtrack and a much better looking car(IMO of course). The Boxster/Cayman might be a nice little convertible, but the Vette will eat the thing alive for breakfast, lunch and dinner......say what you will, you cant argue with performance numbers.

You'll never get it.  Stop bothering to try.  You'll hurt yourself.

That's the thing....Fobroader doesn't seem to get that these are different. It's like arguing that a 10 million dollar Park Ave co-op is better than a 10 million dollar beach house on Cape Cod. Both are places to live but they are not the same.

[CanuckS2K]

@ rrocket,....and a lowly 240HP/160tq S2000 would also be an example of what you're talking about. 

[rrocket]

@ rrocket,....and a lowly 240HP/158tq S2000 would also be an example of what you're talking about.

Yes, I mentioned that earlier in the thread.  Figures alone will never convey how great of a driver's car the S2000 is.

[Fobroader]

@ rrocket,....and a lowly 240HP/160tq S2000 would also be an example of what you're talking about.

The thing is, I love the S2000, Ive been in one and it was a fantastic car.

[rrocket]

@ rrocket,....and a lowly 240HP/160tq S2000 would also be an example of what you're talking about.

The thing is, I love the S2000, Ive been in one and it was a fantastic car.

So do you think an S2000 sucks because the new Vette is faster?

A Cayman/Boxster is an S2000...but better in EVERY way.  Stew on that, and get back to us.