Topic: For $53K USD – Cayman or Corvette?

[Fobroader]

The driver of the other car was clearly blinded by the beauty of he new Vette because he was driving a lincoln town car and was probably 98 years old  and crashed into it

;-)

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[rrocket]

The driver of the other car was clearly blinded by the beauty of he new Vette and crashed into it

;-)

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Can hardly tell the creases in the side from the dents.....or vice versa...

[Mark-N]

I'm new here, so I thought I'd chime in. As much as it's not my cup of tea, it's certainly the coolest looking Vette I can remember. The specs look great and the bang for the buck is undeniable. Personally I live 1400km and a 8hr ferry ride from a track, and 95% of the time I'm in 50-80km/h traffic so top speed and fastest acceleration are not the top reasons for buying a sports car. Nor does it bother me that some knuckle draggers believe it's a "hairdresser's Porsche" and you must have large displacement cars to feel manly (and more than likely, a 8" lift kit on your pickup truck). The first time you get a Boxster/Cayman onto a twisty road at speed, you quickly realize that more power isn't going to help you keep your line or nail your exit with precision every time. The confidence you have and the feedback that the chassis provides is truly sublime.  There are testers out there that call the 981 series of Porsches the best handling cars currently in production and they provide about 90% of the performance of the 911 for 50% of the price. I have no doubt the Vette is good, but ham fists and white knuckles provide a far less enjoyable driving experience (unless burn outs in parking lots in front of a crowd are your thing) which has been my own personal experience. I've "played" with some high hp cars like the Viper, Vettes, Camaro's Mustangs, and none of those provided the levels of enjoyment after nailing an apex. I recall holding on for dear life hoping I had the grip to stay pointed in the right direction, which is something you never fear in a mid engined Porsche and the reason I chose the car I spec'd out to my exact needs and ordered. If you haven't had a chance to drive one yet, I'd highly recommend it as you'll be grinning ear to ear in no time . There are days I wish I'd picked an S model for some extra poke, but then I get stuck in traffic and realize I've got everything I need and still have an extra $12k in my pocket.

[Fobroader]

Knuckledraggers eh.....I just think that you can save a bunch of money with the Vette and have a faster (any way you cut it, almost 200 horsepower more is a lot of power), better handling, better looking, better sounding and just a general bad ass car with the Vette. Or you can have a stripped out, base model 260 horse roadster....oh, and my truck is stock height by the way.

[rrocket]

I'm new here, so I thought I'd chime in. As much as it's not my cup of tea, it's certainly the coolest looking Vette I can remember. The specs look great and the bang for the buck is undeniable. Personally I live 1400km and a 8hr ferry ride from a track, and 95% of the time I'm in 50-80km/h traffic so top speed and fastest acceleration are not the top reasons for buying a sports car. Nor does it bother me that some knuckle draggers believe it's a "hairdresser's Porsche" and you must have large displacement cars to feel manly (and more than likely, a 8" lift kit on your pickup truck). The first time you get a Boxster/Cayman onto a twisty road at speed, you quickly realize that more power isn't going to help you keep your line or nail your exit with precision every time. The confidence you have and the feedback that the chassis provides is truly sublime.  There are testers out there that call the 981 series of Porsches the best handling cars currently in production and they provide about 90% of the performance of the 911 for 50% of the price. I have no doubt the Vette is good, but ham fists and white knuckles provide a far less enjoyable driving experience (unless burn outs in parking lots in front of a crowd are your thing) which has been my own personal experience. I've "played" with some high hp cars like the Viper, Vettes, Camaro's Mustangs, and none of those provided the levels of enjoyment after nailing an apex. I recall holding on for dear life hoping I had the grip to stay pointed in the right direction, which is something you never fear in a mid engined Porsche and the reason I chose the car I spec'd out to my exact needs and ordered. If you haven't had a chance to drive one yet, I'd highly recommend it as you'll be grinning ear to ear in no time . There are days I wish I'd picked an S model for some extra poke, but then I get stuck in traffic and realize I've got everything I need and still have an extra $12k in my pocket.

If you can't "nail an apex" on the street in EVERY car you listed, you're doing something wrong.  I have yet to meet an apex on the street driven at sane street speeds than can't be nailed perfectly, every time by virtually any car on the market.

Just sayin'...

[rrocket]

Knuckledraggers eh.....I just think that you can save a bunch of money with the Vette and have a faster (any way you cut it, almost 200 horsepower more is a lot of power), better handling, better sounding and just a general bad ass car with the Vette. Or you can have a stripped out, base model 260 horse roadster....oh, and my truck is stock height by the way.

 

[Snowman]

I have not driven the latest versions but I have had the pleasure of driving a Lingenfelter Z06 and a Boxster S so we are talking a 300 HP difference here.  The Z06 was a blast for sure but at the end of the day I would take the Boxster S home. Until people drive a mid engine Porsche rather than just read about it then the debate is pointless.

[CanuckS2K]

I have not driven the latest versions but I have had the pleasure of driving a Lingenfelter Z06 and a Boxster S so we are talking a 300 HP difference here.  The Z06 was a blast for sure but at the end of the day I would take the Boxster S home. Until people drive a mid engine Porsche rather than just read about it then the debate is pointless.

I would definitely agree with that!  I've driven a Boxster (non S version) and thought it was blast to drive.....VERY well balanced in terms of driving dynamics.  When I owned my MR2 for 13 years, and even though it didn't a whole lot of power, it was a freakin' blast to drive!!!  So from my experience, there is something very much to be said about mid engine performance.  For myself personally, I don't need 400+hp for a car to be fun to drive.  The S2000 only puts out a measly 240hp, but it's one of the most rewarding cars I've ever driven. 

[Snowman]

I have not driven the latest versions but I have had the pleasure of driving a Lingenfelter Z06 and a Boxster S so we are talking a 300 HP difference here.  The Z06 was a blast for sure but at the end of the day I would take the Boxster S home. Until people drive a mid engine Porsche rather than just read about it then the debate is pointless.

A C5 is not indicative AT ALL of a modern Vette Snowy.

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I understand that but neither was the Boxster at the time. Don't get me wrong the new Corvette is awesome but any car with over 400 HP on the street is a waste IMO....I see no point in a car that requires that level of ecu intervention to make it drivable.

[Fobroader]

I have not driven the latest versions but I have had the pleasure of driving a Lingenfelter Z06 and a Boxster S so we are talking a 300 HP difference here.  The Z06 was a blast for sure but at the end of the day I would take the Boxster S home. Until people drive a mid engine Porsche rather than just read about it then the debate is pointless.

A C5 is not indicative AT ALL of a modern Vette Snowy.

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I understand that but neither was the Boxster at the time. Don't get me wrong the new Corvette is awesome but any car over with 400 HP on the street is a waste IMO....I see no point in a car that requires that level of ecu intervention to make it drivable.

Wait....doesnt your TT have awd with traction and stability control???

[Snowman]

I have not driven the latest versions but I have had the pleasure of driving a Lingenfelter Z06 and a Boxster S so we are talking a 300 HP difference here.  The Z06 was a blast for sure but at the end of the day I would take the Boxster S home. Until people drive a mid engine Porsche rather than just read about it then the debate is pointless.

A C5 is not indicative AT ALL of a modern Vette Snowy.

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I understand that but neither was the Boxster at the time. Don't get me wrong the new Corvette is awesome but any car over with 400 HP on the street is a waste IMO....I see no point in a car that requires that level of ecu intervention to make it drivable.

Wait....doesnt your TT have awd with traction and stability control???

It is deactivated at all times. See page 43:

http://www.jlosee.com/images/TTRS/PDF/TT%20RS%20w%202500cc%205%20cylinder%20TFSI.pdf

Can be validated by anybody who has gone hooning with me and witnessed all four wheels spinning 

[rrocket]

I have not driven the latest versions but I have had the pleasure of driving a Lingenfelter Z06 and a Boxster S so we are talking a 300 HP difference here.  The Z06 was a blast for sure but at the end of the day I would take the Boxster S home. Until people drive a mid engine Porsche rather than just read about it then the debate is pointless.

A C5 is not indicative AT ALL of a modern Vette Snowy.

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I understand that but neither was the Boxster at the time. Don't get me wrong the new Corvette is awesome but any car over with 400 HP on the street is a waste IMO....I see no point in a car that requires that level of ecu intervention to make it drivable.

Wait....doesnt your TT have awd with traction and stability control???

It is deactivated at all times. See page 43:

http://www.jlosee.com/images/TTRS/PDF/TT%20RS%20w%202500cc%205%20cylinder%20TFSI.pdf

Can be validated by anybody who has gone hooning with me and witnessed all four wheels spinning 

How do you de activate the AWD??   

[Snowman]

I have not driven the latest versions but I have had the pleasure of driving a Lingenfelter Z06 and a Boxster S so we are talking a 300 HP difference here.  The Z06 was a blast for sure but at the end of the day I would take the Boxster S home. Until people drive a mid engine Porsche rather than just read about it then the debate is pointless.

A C5 is not indicative AT ALL of a modern Vette Snowy.

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I understand that but neither was the Boxster at the time. Don't get me wrong the new Corvette is awesome but any car over with 400 HP on the street is a waste IMO....I see no point in a car that requires that level of ecu intervention to make it drivable.

Wait....doesnt your TT have awd with traction and stability control???

It is deactivated at all times. See page 43:

http://www.jlosee.com/images/TTRS/PDF/TT%20RS%20w%202500cc%205%20cylinder%20TFSI.pdf

Can be validated by anybody who has gone hooning with me and witnessed all four wheels spinning 

How do you de activate the AWD??   

Clown 

[rrocket]

^^^^ Moi?  )

[Mark-N]

Knuckledraggers eh.....I just think that you can save a bunch of money with the Vette and have a faster (any way you cut it, almost 200 horsepower more is a lot of power), better handling, better looking, better sounding and just a general bad ass car with the Vette. Or you can have a stripped out, base model 260 horse roadster....oh, and my truck is stock height by the way.

... and while cubic zircoina is still very shiny, no matter which way you cut it, it will never be a diamond.

Either way, by looking at the list of ponies in your stable, we're never going to agree on this one. You're talking about buying a bigger greasier burger off the value menu and washing it down with a coke. The Cayman is like a grain fed Petit filet paired with a bold Cabernet. It costs more and you get less, but the sum of all its parts reward your palate far more than a double baconator ever could. I do find it comical that the ones who talk the strongest opinions are generally the ones who don't actually either one of these cars in their driveways. You keep defending your Vette and driving your Pickup. I'll keep enjoying the sh*t out of my baby Porsche.

[Sir Osis of Liver]

Horseshit. The Cayman is a Porsche designed for those that can't afford a 911, yet still need to have THAT BADGE.

Eurosnobs quite often fall back on the 'intangibles' argument when the performance data can't back up their claims.

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[rrocket]

Horseshit. The Cayman is a Porsche designed for those that can't afford a 911, yet still need to have THAT BADGE.

Eurosnobs quite often fall back on the 'intangibles' argument when the performance data can't back up their claims.

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I don't know if I agree with that.  It just happens to be another car in the Porsche lineup and just happens to cost less.  With performance of the Cayman  close to a 911. I might agree with your argument if the Cayman wasn't such a strong performer.

I suppose it's like saying a CrossTrek is a vehicle for people who can't afford an Outback then?

[Bubba]

I suppose it's like saying a CrossTrek is a vehicle for people who can't afford an Outback then?

Isn't that the plan of most manufacturers: have the customer move upward in their line up?

[Snowman]

Horseshit. The Cayman is a Porsche designed for those that can't afford a 911, yet still need to have THAT BADGE.

Eurosnobs quite often fall back on the 'intangibles' argument when the performance data can't back up their claims.

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I disagree, The Cayman is superior to the 911 but Porsche neuters it to keep it just below the 911 in terms of performance measurements.

[Fobroader]

Knuckledraggers eh.....I just think that you can save a bunch of money with the Vette and have a faster (any way you cut it, almost 200 horsepower more is a lot of power), better handling, better looking, better sounding and just a general bad ass car with the Vette. Or you can have a stripped out, base model 260 horse roadster....oh, and my truck is stock height by the way.

... and while cubic zircoina is still very shiny, no matter which way you cut it, it will never be a diamond.

Either way, by looking at the list of ponies in your stable, we're never going to agree on this one. You're talking about buying a bigger greasier burger off the value menu and washing it down with a coke. The Cayman is like a grain fed Petit filet paired with a bold Cabernet. It costs more and you get less, but the sum of all its parts reward your palate far more than a double baconator ever could. I do find it comical that the ones who talk the strongest opinions are generally the ones who don't actually either one of these cars in their driveways. You keep defending your Vette and driving your Pickup. I'll keep enjoying the sh*t out of my baby Porsche.

Well no, the 911 is a diamond, the boxster and cockster are the cubic zirconia. The Vette is a steak and potatoes and a beer,  the boxster is a vegan burger with a dealcholized beer....

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