Topic: Golf GTD All But Confirmed For Canadian Consumption

[Autos_Editor]

While no timeline has been set for when it'll appear, all signs for Golf GTD sales in Canada point to yes.

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[Fobroader]

So a TDi with GTi suspension and fancy bits?? Does the engine have more power?? Is there an LSD??

[mixmanmash]

So a TDi with GTi suspension and fancy bits?? Does the engine have more power?? Is there an LSD??

I believe it has a higher state of tune and delivers a bit more power and way more torque.  I'd be interested to see more details.

[quadzilla]

According to Automotive News

The GTD, available as a two- and four-door hatchback, borrows the sports suspension from the gasoline-powered Golf GTI. It is powered by a 2.0-liter turbodiesel four-cylinder rated at 184 hp and 280 pounds-feet of torque.

VW says the car will accelerate from 0 to 60 mph in about 7 seconds and achieve more than 40 mpg on the highway.

The GTD, available as a two- and four-door hatchback, borrows the sports suspension from the gasoline-powered Golf GTI. It is powered by a 2.0-liter turbodiesel four-cylinder rated at 184 hp and 280 pounds-feet of torque.

VW says the car will accelerate from 0 to 60 mph in about 7 seconds and achieve more than 40 mpg on the highway.

The car will use urea to reduce oxides of nitrogen. The urea tank is typically filled when owners change their oil.

I want to get excited about this car but for some reason I can't. I have trouble thinking who would buy this over the regular Golf TDi (which I think already comes with a sports suspension). Plus, how much of a premium over the gas GTi will this be?

[Fobroader]

Not that Id be interested in a GTD, but Ive always liked the TDi motor. Hmmm, 280 lb ft of torque is awesome, but yeah, "sport" diesel, no thank you.

[quadzilla]

If somebody just wants more tq in their GTi its much cheaper to get a Stage1 flash.  I'm sure somebody will buy the GTD but I'm taking my name off the list.

[toolatecrew]

I'd love this car. TDI engine seems to have been reliable (moreso than the 2.0T). Superior fuel mileage. Lots of torque which is something that I loved from the 2.0T but even more. I don't get nearly as much chance to wind out engines as I like a TDI would fit well with my conditions. I like the GTI suspension compromise and the interior is fantastic. A GDI would have everything I want (except AWD ...cough snicker). Problem is that given VW's pricing strategy (especially in Canada) its going to be GTI plus thousands of $ for the TDI option and likely only one trim level (probably loaded).

Can't see me ever affording

[Fobroader]

If somebody just wants more tq in their GTi its much cheaper to get a Stage1 flash.  I'm sure somebody will buy the GTD but I'm taking my name off the list.

Or get an A3/S3 and get a Golf that VW should have built......

[micha]

According to Automotive News

The GTD, available as a two- and four-door hatchback, borrows the sports suspension from the gasoline-powered Golf GTI. It is powered by a 2.0-liter turbodiesel four-cylinder rated at 184 hp and 280 pounds-feet of torque.

VW says the car will accelerate from 0 to 60 mph in about 7 seconds and achieve more than 40 mpg on the highway.

The GTD, available as a two- and four-door hatchback, borrows the sports suspension from the gasoline-powered Golf GTI. It is powered by a 2.0-liter turbodiesel four-cylinder rated at 184 hp and 280 pounds-feet of torque.

VW says the car will accelerate from 0 to 60 mph in about 7 seconds and achieve more than 40 mpg on the highway.

The car will use urea to reduce oxides of nitrogen. The urea tank is typically filled when owners change their oil.

I want to get excited about this car but for some reason I can't. I have trouble thinking who would buy this over the regular Golf TDi (which I think already comes with a sports suspension). Plus, how much of a premium over the gas GTi will this be?

AFAIK the TDI only came with sports suspension in the US, not Canada. Also, in the US a regular GTI is currently $24,200 and the GTD is supposed to be $27,000 in the US. As much as I love the GTD, that's too much money. It might make more sense to just buy a GTI depending on Canadian pricing and option packaging.

Not that Id be interested in a GTD, but Ive always liked the TDi motor. Hmmm, 280 lb ft of torque is awesome, but yeah, "sport" diesel, no thank you.

What's wrong with a sporty diesel? You can drive it hard without the fuel economy penalty. It's eating your cake and having it too.

[redman]

Considering that our buying habits lean more towards Europe, I can see this being a fit here in Canada more so than the U.S.

[OliverD]

I'm surprised at the lukewarm reaction to this car here. We always seem to want stuff we can't have, and then when they bring it here, we don't want it anymore.

[Dante]

I'm sure this will be a great package, but the price is the biggest concern for this car - GTI+TDi = $40K CAD.

What I would really like to see in Canada is the regular Golf 4Motion available in other markets for 2014 MY.

[tpl]

I'm surprised at the lukewarm reaction to this car here. We always seem to want stuff we can't have, and then when they bring it here, we don't want it anymore.

If those useless buggers at VW had brought in the GTI Mk VII and this GTD ( also on the MK VII chassis and trim)
this spring they'd still have me as a customer.  I would have tossed a coin and probably bought a GTD.
Even more so as it would have been built in Germany not Mexico.

The extra couple of grand for the GTD...so what...its only money.

[OliverD]

I'm sure this will be a great package, but the price is the biggest concern for this car - GTI+TDi = $40K CAD.

What I would really like to see in Canada is the regular Golf 4Motion available in other markets for 2014 MY.

Let's be realistic. Current GTI starts at about $30,700 with destination. I can't see the GTD being more than a couple grand higher than the GTI, comparably equipped. So even with a modest price increase for the next generation model the GTD shouldn't be approaching $40k.

[Weels]

I'm sure this will be a great package, but the price is the biggest concern for this car - GTI+TDi = $40K CAD.

What I would really like to see in Canada is the regular Golf 4Motion available in other markets for 2014 MY.

Let's be realistic. Current GTI starts at about $30,700 with destination. I can't see the GTD being more than a couple grand higher than the GTI, comparably equipped. So even with a modest price increase for the next generation model the GTD shouldn't be approaching $40k.

We'll see.
The GTD definitely interests me as i've always loved the GTI... that is going to be the biggest problem for it since the GTI is such a great package with the 2.0T  - I don't think it would be worth a significant price jump.

[Dante]

I'm sure this will be a great package, but the price is the biggest concern for this car - GTI+TDi = $40K CAD.

What I would really like to see in Canada is the regular Golf 4Motion available in other markets for 2014 MY.

Let's be realistic. Current GTI starts at about $30,700 with destination. I can't see the GTD being more than a couple grand higher than the GTI, comparably equipped. So even with a modest price increase for the next generation model the GTD shouldn't be approaching $40k.

The current GTI packaging is very unfriendly (expensive). If you want Navi you must pay $5,800, bringing up the price before tax to $37,570 (w/DSG). You cannot get Navi without leather and sunroof. You cannot only get the nicer wheels without sunroof ($2,500 Sport Package).

Add another $2,000 - $2,500 premium for the ugraded diesel engine and you are at $40K.

I hope the MK VII Golf price and packaging will get better in Canada especially that the production will move to Mexico.

[tpl]

I am mostly neutral about whether that car is built in Germany or Mexico and I have no problem with a car in its first year of production  BUT I'd rather not have one from the first year of a new factory.

And as I wouldn't buy Navi nor a sunroof the other price increments don't bother me. I intentionally bought my B-class with no sunroof which meant I had to forgo leather...which I did want.

[OliverD]

The current GTI packaging is very unfriendly (expensive). If you want Navi you must pay $5,800, bringing up the price before tax to $37,570 (w/DSG). You cannot get Navi without leather and sunroof. You cannot only get the nicer wheels without sunroof ($2,500 Sport Package).

Add another $2,000 - $2,500 premium for the ugraded diesel engine and you are at $40K.

Well sure, but everyone knows that loaded up cars can get very expensive (especially German ones).

[Dante]

The current GTI packaging is very unfriendly (expensive). If you want Navi you must pay $5,800, bringing up the price before tax to $37,570 (w/DSG). You cannot get Navi without leather and sunroof. You cannot only get the nicer wheels without sunroof ($2,500 Sport Package).

Add another $2,000 - $2,500 premium for the ugraded diesel engine and you are at $40K.

Well sure, but everyone knows that loaded up cars can get very expensive (especially German ones).

The point is VW forces you to load up the car just to get a single option (e.g. navi).

[mixmanmash]

The current GTI packaging is very unfriendly (expensive). If you want Navi you must pay $5,800, bringing up the price before tax to $37,570 (w/DSG). You cannot get Navi without leather and sunroof. You cannot only get the nicer wheels without sunroof ($2,500 Sport Package).

Add another $2,000 - $2,500 premium for the ugraded diesel engine and you are at $40K.

Well sure, but everyone knows that loaded up cars can get very expensive (especially German ones).

The point is VW forces you to load up the car just to get a single option (e.g. navi).

Many manufacturers do the same.  It makes it more cost effective for them rather than have too many variations.  Mazda does something like this on the 6 - you can only get the tech package in the top trimmed GT.