Topic: Test Drive: 2013 Audi A4 Allroad

[mixmanmash]

I'm sure the level of luxury is vastly different between the Audi and the Mazda.

Maybe Rupert & his friend from Waterloo should test drive both back to back and report back on the differences.

If we were all just shopping for functionality only, we'd all drive base model Toyotas...

[blotter]

Like no-one can have an opinion but you... and you... and you. I presume that you can read and write, apart from just posting smilies. No-one is saying, what you are rolling on your bellies about. Looking at the Mazda3 it is pretty much a station wagon...close as available these days...to the lesser of us....what's the term you

sorry but i'm going to join the rest here to say comparing the two isn't, well quite right.

The Allroad comes from the A4 - it's a wagon.

The Mazda 3 is a hatch, NOT a wagon.

now you can maybe make an argument and look at the Mazda 3 vs the Audi A3

true competition for the Allroad is the BWM 3-series wagon, the Volvo XC70 and the more affordable Subaru Outback.   If Mazda still made the 6 wagon, I would have added that to the mix... although the Allroad, XC70 and Outback are beefed up wagons... 

I find it increasingly difficult to fairly compare some vehicles as all these sub-segments pop up.

we can at least agree that wagons are hard to find to begin with, affordable ones are nearly non-existant.  (VW Golf Wagon or older Passat Wagons).

The Mazda 3 belongs in a group like the Toyota Matrix, Ford Focus Hatch, VW Golf, Hyundai Elantra Touring.   

[Rupert]

Maybe these high priced nice cars are fishing in an on-going smaller and smaller pool.

[blur911]

Maybe these high priced nice cars are fishing in an on-going smaller and smaller pool.

Yup, any day now people will come to their senses and the most profitable car companies in the world will all go belly up, any day now...

BTW, how is Mazda doing financially?  I hear they are selling a lot of Mazda 3s.

[Silverbird]

All things considered this is a nice vehicle. However, I've ranted before and I'll do it again....just please give me an A4 wagon. I saw one yesterday with the S-line package and it's soooooo sweet. I can't believe they don't allow you the option.

If it was White, it might have been me here in K-W.

Had wanted one for a while and then the news of the Allroad replacing the Avant was confirmed, and this one was still on the lot. 

Also some other notes, Cargo space is slightly smaller than a Q5, but the cargo area in the Avant is longer but shorter.  great for rolling in a baby stroller and such, but really only comes into play when stuffing it to the roof.

Also, it is very true that the Q5 is better value, being approximately $3-5k less than the Avant, however the Pano sunroof makes up a good chunk of the difference.  If the TDI Q5 was more firm when I was buying, I definitely would have had a tough decision.

[2JDM]

All things considered this is a nice vehicle. However, I've ranted before and I'll do it again....just please give me an A4 wagon. I saw one yesterday with the S-line package and it's soooooo sweet. I can't believe they don't allow you the option.

If it was White, it might have been me here in K-W.

Had wanted one for a while and then the news of the Allroad replacing the Avant was confirmed, and this one was still on the lot. 

Also some other notes, Cargo space is slightly smaller than a Q5, but the cargo area in the Avant is longer but shorter.  great for rolling in a baby stroller and such, but really only comes into play when stuffing it to the roof.

Also, it is very true that the Q5 is better value, being approximately $3-5k less than the Avant, however the Pano sunroof makes up a good chunk of the difference.  If the TDI Q5 was more firm when I was buying, I definitely would have had a tough decision.

That is a hot wagon. 

[Fobroader]

All things considered this is a nice vehicle. However, I've ranted before and I'll do it again....just please give me an A4 wagon. I saw one yesterday with the S-line package and it's soooooo sweet. I can't believe they don't allow you the option.

If it was White, it might have been me here in K-W.

Had wanted one for a while and then the news of the Allroad replacing the Avant was confirmed, and this one was still on the lot. 

Also some other notes, Cargo space is slightly smaller than a Q5, but the cargo area in the Avant is longer but shorter.  great for rolling in a baby stroller and such, but really only comes into play when stuffing it to the roof.

Also, it is very true that the Q5 is better value, being approximately $3-5k less than the Avant, however the Pano sunroof makes up a good chunk of the difference.  If the TDI Q5 was more firm when I was buying, I definitely would have had a tough decision.

Wow....your car is absolutely stunning..... 

[Sir Osis of Liver]

I've been seeing a few Allroads pop up around here. I like it. And I think the size is ok.

[lebowski]

I'm surprised by the amount of talk on this thread about practicality and comparisons to more ordinary looking, less expensive vehicles than the allroad. Anyone who chooses this car over others in the segment would already be aware that,  1) of course there are cheaper alternatives available, like the Subaru Outback (and the Mazda 3, apparently, and by that logic, the Chevrolet Sonic), and 2) they really like how the allroad looks, feels, and drives, and they have quantified that fact to the tune of whatever the price difference is between the allroad and its competitors. I say more power to 'em. I don't want to live in a world where everyone drives a Mazda 3, and if I had the means, I would certainly have an allroad in my garage over the competition - and if it became available with the V6T and torque vectoring, I'd probably be out robbing a bank now instead of writing this

[lebowski]

That is a hot wagon. 

+1 that is a beaut! 

[jyarkony]

That is a hot wagon. 

+1 that is a beaut! 

+2

jealous. that's definitely where I'd go after my Jetta expires if i could swing it. and those wheels! love those wheels...