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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #12500 on: May 14, 2020, 04:52:32 pm »
What do the symbols signify?

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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #12501 on: May 14, 2020, 04:53:58 pm »
What do the symbols signify?

That is the Alfa Romeo badge, and the entire thing is some sort of livery.  Probably good for about 15hp.  25hp, if it's period correct...

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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #12502 on: May 14, 2020, 05:12:46 pm »
What do the symbols signify?

That is the Alfa Romeo badge, and the entire thing is some sort of livery.  Probably good for about 15hp.  25hp, if it's period correct...
:rofl2: You have earned an applaud sir!

Yes it is the Alfa Romeo logo, which is steeped in the history of Milan where they are made. The entire thing is indeed some sort of livery, a tribute livery for the JDM edition. In honour of the 155s victories in DTM and BTCC. The cloverleaf badge is kinda like the "M" or "AMG" version of Alfas. Their race cars as tradition had the 4 leaf clover on them in tribute to one of their first famous race drivers.
Article in Japanese on my car below:

Racing Liveries it pays light hommage to:


« Last Edit: May 14, 2020, 05:16:01 pm by ChaosphereIX »
If driving an Alfa does not restore vitality to your soul, then just pass the hospital and park at the morgue to save everyone time.

Now drives a Jaaaaaaag...and thus will not pay for anything during an outing...but it is OK, because....I drive a Jaaaaaag.

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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #12503 on: May 14, 2020, 05:19:55 pm »
Oh, boy.  Thanks, I'll be sure to read that article in Japanese.   :rofl2:

I meant the snake, his pacifier, the dots, the cross and whatever else is on there.  What do they mean?

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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #12504 on: May 14, 2020, 05:23:55 pm »
Oh, boy.  Thanks, I'll be sure to read that article in Japanese.   :rofl2:

I meant the snake, his pacifier, the dots, the cross and whatever else is on there.  What do they mean?
Snakes, children, Saracen knight, muslims, ,,,,,, ;)
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The history of Alfa Romeo's logo

English automobile manufacturers Darracq. The latter firm was in severe financial straits owing to a sharp drop in sales. Initially, the new firm was simply called "Alfa", an acronym for "Anonima Lombarda Fabbrica Automobili". Its marque-plate portrayed sinuously arranged floral motifs typical of the art nouveau style. Ever since its establishment, the firm has played an important role in the automobile sector worldwide. It initially manufactured competition racing cars and subsequently medium to large cylinder capacity saloon cars. The marques evolution amply witnesses to the attention given by the firm to its image. From the start, it was to adopt as its main device the historical coat of arms of the city of Milan at the time of the self-governing city-states of Italy. In fact, in 1912 its trade-mark consisted in the city's emblem of a red cross against a white background used at the time of Giovanni da Rho together with the serpent of the Visconti family steeped in the traditions of ancient Lombardy. According to some authorities, this later devise originally represented the Biblical serpent swallowing a child against a light-blue background as adopted by the Milanese Crusaders for their heraldic banner. In any case, after vanquishing a Saracen knight who boasted "eating Christians" (see Ferrari), Arnolfo II adopted, to use Dante's words, "the adder that the Milanese displays" for his coat of arms. According to others, the symbol was taken from the image of a bronze serpent brought to Milan in 1002 and immediately reproduced on a column in St. Ambroise's Church. Be it as it may, these, then, were the motifs inscribed within a circular fascia of two ribbons tied together by a so-called Sabaudian knot with the wording "Alfa Milano" in lettering with serifs that went into making up the automobile manufacturer's trade-mark. The definitive wording, "Alfa-Romeo Milano" in slender lettering, was adopted in 1918 after the firm's acquisition by the Neapolitan engineer Nicola Romeo in 1915. The calligraphic logotype "Alfa Romeo", originally arranged on two lines and subsequently on one only, was to first appear on car radiators in 1922. The laurel leaf crown celebrating the victory at the first edition of the World Racing Car Championship won by Alfa-Romeo with its car "Alfa P2" was added in 1925. Two peculiarities are worth noting. In the first circular trade-mark the serpent appeared to be twisting its head a full three-hundred and sixty degrees, a detail missing in the 1935 version. But in a 1937 rendition during the Italian Fascist regime the wording was changed to an autarchic "Milano-Napoli" and the serpent was once more depicted with its head twisted all around! In 1946 after the fall of the monarchy and the proclamation of the republic the Saubadian knot was deleted and replaced by two wavy lines. As there were no restrictions or special criteria dictating its use, for several years the trade-mark was liberally interpreted. Between 1946 and 1950 the child devoured by the serpent was set at an angle and the laurel leaf crown was given less prominence. In 1964 the Giulietta Junior was graced by a stylised rendition of only the Visconti serpent facing to the right. In 1969 in a rather disputable move the serpent was so stylised to the extreme and the child was wholly deprived of any human connotations. After the opening of the Alfasud plant at Pomigliano d'Arco near Naples the word "Milano" was dropped from the trade-mark and only the two Milanese symbols were maintained surmounted by the words "Alfa Romeo" in Futura-style lettering. As for the previous colour and monochromatic versions the new design was the work of Pino Tovaglia. In 2000 the trade-mark was touched up by Maurizio Di Robilant acquiring a more contemporary look
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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #12505 on: May 14, 2020, 05:29:34 pm »
'his pacifier'

Thanks a lot, can't unsee that now

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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #12506 on: May 14, 2020, 05:33:29 pm »
Well ya beat me to it. In short:

Left side is the Milanese crusader shield red on white cross. The right side is more controversial: "Biscone" (serpent associated with Milan and its powerful families during the Crusades) eating a muslim (Moor/Saracen) which is of course another Crusades reference. The crown I believe is due to the Papacy giving Milan holy protection or status due to their significant role in the Crusades.


Yes it could also be a baby. Alfa would like that to be the case, as to not, you know, offend Muslims lol.
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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #12507 on: May 14, 2020, 05:34:17 pm »
Thanks Ted.  So the pacifier used to be a baby.  Fascinating and weird, but in the Dark Ages all's fair in love and war, I guess.

I always find coats of arms interesting.

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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #12508 on: May 14, 2020, 05:37:28 pm »
What do the symbols signify?
here is a short explanation:

Alfa Romeo has one of the most ancient and historical emblem among all car brands in the world. This emblem was born on 1910.
On the left: the red cross on white field is the symbol of Milan, the hometown of Alfa Romeo.
On the right: the symbol of one of the most important families in the history of Milan (and Italy), the Visconti family – the family that ruled Milan.
The snake is a circular animal (a snake can assume a circular position) and is an animal of the changing – able to change his skin regularly and totally renew or rebirth himself.

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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #12509 on: May 14, 2020, 05:37:44 pm »
GM- "Well, we will just call our car company for what it produces"

Alfa- "Oh, you need a minor in Italian history and a course or three in the crusades to understand what this means"
Lighten up Francis.....

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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #12510 on: May 14, 2020, 05:41:28 pm »
Thanks Ted.  So the pacifier used to be a baby.  Fascinating and weird, but in the Dark Ages all's fair in love and war, I guess.

I always find coats of arms interesting.
a little after the Dark Ages, but indeed it was a long time ago and things were pretty bleak

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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #12511 on: May 14, 2020, 05:42:20 pm »
GM- "Well, we will just call our car company for what it produces"

Alfa- "Oh, you need a minor in Italian history and a course or three in the crusades to understand what this means"
its called "culture"  :rofl2:

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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #12512 on: May 14, 2020, 05:44:48 pm »
GM- "Well, we will just call our car company for what it produces"

Alfa- "Oh, you need a minor in Italian history and a course or three in the crusades to understand what this means"
its called "culture"  :rofl2:


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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #12513 on: May 14, 2020, 08:05:43 pm »
GM- "Well, we will just call our car company for what it produces"

Alfa- "Oh, you need a minor in Italian history and a course or three in the crusades to understand what this means"

Perfect for a historian, right?

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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #12514 on: May 14, 2020, 08:27:12 pm »
GM- "Well, we will just call our car company for what it produces"

Alfa- "Oh, you need a minor in Italian history and a course or three in the crusades to understand what this means"

Perfect for a historian, right?
I think so! Either an Alfa or a Saab, which is a nerds car.

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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #12515 on: May 14, 2020, 08:43:11 pm »
Francesca and Kira look great!

I'd rather be car-poor than house-poor...

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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #12516 on: May 18, 2020, 04:35:09 pm »
Raining here all day, so tinkered a bit in the garage (after repairing my LG washer again...I've lost count now). Painted some bits for the MGB and then decided to detail the underside of the hood on the XKR.

Vacuumed the felt insulator, then scrubbed it with some foaming carpet cleaner, then did the painted parts with some waterless wash followed by some black wax. Looks like new now.....Need to get to the rest of the engine bay someday.




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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #12517 on: May 18, 2020, 06:58:42 pm »
Polished the furniture...
How fast is my 911?  Supras sh*t on on me all the time...in reverse..with blown turbos  :( ...

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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #12518 on: May 18, 2020, 07:56:01 pm »
^^ lol, that’s a lot of wood! Very classy though.
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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #12519 on: May 18, 2020, 07:59:28 pm »
Ya, it looks great and even better while driving I'm sure.