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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #15820 on: January 04, 2022, 12:53:32 pm »
  Pretty sure our rate's only 8.5/kwh (I should check again - might've gone up)

I rarely look at the supposed rate as there are so many add-ons, taxes and charges it is a fraction of the bill.   I take total bill divided by kWhr.   What's the point of saying my rate is $0.113 when it really isn't?
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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #15821 on: January 04, 2022, 01:53:07 pm »
Exactly. I have to take my "rate" and double it to account for all the rate riders and distribution BS.



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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #15822 on: January 04, 2022, 01:58:43 pm »
Cheaper after 7pm  :rofl:

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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #15823 on: January 04, 2022, 02:15:18 pm »
Yeah that basement under the garage sounds more like a dungeon...


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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #15824 on: January 04, 2022, 02:25:08 pm »
  Pretty sure our rate's only 8.5/kwh (I should check again - might've gone up)

I rarely look at the supposed rate as there are so many add-ons, taxes and charges it is a fraction of the bill.   I take total bill divided by kWhr.   What's the point of saying my rate is $0.113 when it really isn't?

I'd exclude the "base" charges such as service fee etc. Since they don't scale with usage (you'd be paying it anyways)

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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #15825 on: January 04, 2022, 02:44:28 pm »
  Pretty sure our rate's only 8.5/kwh (I should check again - might've gone up)

I rarely look at the supposed rate as there are so many add-ons, taxes and charges it is a fraction of the bill.   I take total bill divided by kWhr.   What's the point of saying my rate is $0.113 when it really isn't?

I'd exclude the "base" charges such as service fee etc. Since they don't scale with usage (you'd be paying it anyways)

There aren't any on my bill, it's electricity, delivery, a tiny regulatory charge, plus HST.

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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #15826 on: January 04, 2022, 02:49:46 pm »
  Pretty sure our rate's only 8.5/kwh (I should check again - might've gone up)

I rarely look at the supposed rate as there are so many add-ons, taxes and charges it is a fraction of the bill.   I take total bill divided by kWhr.   What's the point of saying my rate is $0.113 when it really isn't?

I'd exclude the "base" charges such as service fee etc. Since they don't scale with usage (you'd be paying it anyways)

There aren't any on my bill, it's electricity, delivery, a tiny regulatory charge, plus HST.

Sometimes I forget you're an ex-NBer. NB charges $23/month as a "Service charge, + 11.38 cents per kWh

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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #15827 on: January 04, 2022, 03:22:39 pm »
My average is 17.8 Kwh so a good 5000 watt 40 amp heater is gonna cost maybe 50cents an hour in a R20 insulated garage.  Although insulation under the concrete floor changes things.  Pretty cheap regardless.

In Ontario, "Delivery"  ::)  : "a portion of the cost is fixed and a portion varies depending on the amount of electricity used".  Typical Ontario Hydro double speak.  Assume it's 10% fixed and the remainder 90%.

I have a hydronic floor but haven't turned it on in ages because with it's insulated floor and R20 and R40 combo insulation it remains about 7C all winter.  If I do want to work inside for a few hours which is rare these days I use a 1500 watt electric space heater.

On the other hand my son uses his garage as a temporary office and he keeps that at 72F.  When he moves out of there he'll probably drop it down quit a bit. You listen to the nutters running the government and it's scary about how much they'll tax energy going forward.  Hence, we didn't fart around on the insulation/heating.  The space is as good as it can be other than having it's own air exchanger.  :D   

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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #15828 on: January 04, 2022, 03:35:44 pm »
I had one of those tube heaters...sounded like a jet engine when running.

I have enough used oil that a used oil heater would work for me!
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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #15829 on: January 05, 2022, 09:47:39 am »
My attached garage is insulated, has three warm sides (basement, house, bedroom above) and is kept warm with this electric ceiling unit:



Thermostat is set at about 12.5°C, I push it up as needed when I need to work in there.

Do you have a basement underneath your Garage? I haven't seen that anywhere I've been in Canada

Very common here, attached garages are on a structural slab so you're not stuck with an "L-shaped" basement. In my case it's about 5'10" underneath there so that area is devoted to storage (XMas stuff, tools, etc.). It's part of the actual basement space, not a closed-off dungeon! Opens up to my workshop on one side and the pantry on the other side.

The downside is that I would not dare install a garage lift on a residential-grade slab like that. In any case, I don't have the ceiling height for one.
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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #15830 on: January 05, 2022, 10:06:47 am »
My attached garage is insulated, has three warm sides (basement, house, bedroom above) and is kept warm with this electric ceiling unit:



Thermostat is set at about 12.5°C, I push it up as needed when I need to work in there.

Do you have a basement underneath your Garage? I haven't seen that anywhere I've been in Canada

Very common here, attached garages are on a structural slab so you're not stuck with an "L-shaped" basement. In my case it's about 5'10" underneath there so that area is devoted to storage (XMas stuff, tools, etc.). It's part of the actual basement space, not a closed-off dungeon! Opens up to my workshop on one side and the pantry on the other side.

The downside is that I would not dare install a garage lift on a residential-grade slab like that. In any case, I don't have the ceiling height for one.

how if the waterproofing done?

No coating at all when built, the slab is slightly sloped to a central drain that is piped to a sediment box in the basement, which is piped to the house's sewer outlet. I had the epoxy coating done by pros a couple of years after the build. Never had a leak.

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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #15831 on: January 05, 2022, 10:10:21 am »
That's neat. I guess I haven't been to too many houses in Montreal, but I've never seen one in Ottawa (and I did a lot of house hunting there) or out east.

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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #15832 on: January 05, 2022, 10:13:44 am »
Do you have a basement underneath your Garage? I haven't seen that anywhere I've been in Canada

I've seen a couple places like that around here. There was one for sale near the head pond a couple months ago that had a workshop underneath the garage.

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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #15833 on: January 05, 2022, 10:19:07 am »
Do you have a basement underneath your Garage? I haven't seen that anywhere I've been in Canada

I've seen a couple places like that around here. There was one for sale near the head pond a couple months ago that had a workshop underneath the garage.

It was a $2,500 extra during the construction back in 2006. If you did not spring for it, the full attached garage cavity was filled with ¾ gravel and a classic slab poured on top. Wasted space and opportunity!

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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #15834 on: January 05, 2022, 12:07:20 pm »
That certainly seems like a no-brainer.

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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #15835 on: January 05, 2022, 04:55:09 pm »
Next garage I build will have drains tied into the municipal sewer system. City doesn't like it but I think they are still allowed if built properly (sumps and oil trap). Fully heated, wrap around curtain. the whole shebang.




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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #15836 on: January 05, 2022, 05:12:53 pm »
^ Yes.  Not sure what an oil and grit separator would cost for a house, but they are spendy on a site development.  I'm sure there's something reasonable for homes that a municipality would accept, although I've never looked into it. 

Most of my neighbours have the trench drains with the plastic holding trays.  Supposed to be cleaned out when full. One neighbour drilled holes in the bottom of his.  Now its self draining, but he's wondering why his driveway slab is heaving.  I tried to explain that the saturated soil will freeze and heave, but he wasn't buying it.
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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #15837 on: January 08, 2022, 05:06:05 pm »
Took advantage of the "warm" weather and did an oil change on the Acadia. It was only in the negative teens instead of negative 20's today, balmy!
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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #15838 on: January 08, 2022, 05:27:11 pm »
Took advantage of the "warm" weather and did an oil change on the Acadia. It was only in the negative teens instead of negative 20's today, balmy!

Were you wearing your safety crocks and vacation shorts?  :P ;D

I'm sloooooowly approaching 8,000 because of the corona work schedule. Did my first oil+filter at under 1000km (engine break-in) and hoping to do the second one in the next week or so. I decided to stick with 6 mnth / 8,000k whichever comes first. It could be an overkill but I like the thought of sparkly-clean bits inside the engine. Fingers crossed for above zero temps  :-[
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Re: What did you do to your car today?
« Reply #15839 on: January 08, 2022, 05:57:07 pm »
Next garage I build will have drains tied into the municipal sewer system. City doesn't like it but I think they are still allowed if built properly (sumps and oil trap). Fully heated, wrap around curtain. the whole shebang.

My garage is 75+ years old. The floor drains rum into a pipe that exits the foundation wall on the back of the garage where the land falls away about 6-8" above the lawn. It tales a 90* turn and disappears into the ground running downhill and ends who knows where.  I suspect it just ends ;D
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