Topic: What Motorcycle Have You Been Obsessing About Today?

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I made the mistake of going into a local triumph dealer....they had one of these, I almost left my right nut there immediately 

 I prefer the Trident,  best looking small bike out there......outside of Adventure bikes of course

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I like that. Back to the transalp the exposed headers cause me concern. A product of the parallel twin design?

there's also couple review of the not so "V" V-Strom 800de.

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSY-If-7YmI

[Jaeger]

Almost 100 lbs heavier than the original.

New bikes aren't competing in the marketplace against old bikes, are they?  If it's a hundred pounds heavier that other segment competitors, then yeah, that's a deficit.

[Fobroader]

Almost 100 lbs heavier than the original.

New bikes aren't competing in the marketplace against old bikes, are they?  If it's a hundred pounds heavier that other segment competitors, then yeah, that's a deficit.

No no, its a fair comparison. Why would it be so much heavier than the old model!?!?! That makes zero sense.

[ktm525]

If you are actually riding it off road and have to pick it up then yeah., weight counts.   

[Jaeger]

Almost 100 lbs heavier than the original.

New bikes aren't competing in the marketplace against old bikes, are they?  If it's a hundred pounds heavier that other segment competitors, then yeah, that's a deficit.

No no, its a fair comparison. Why would it be so much heavier than the old model!?!?! That makes zero sense.

Well, how old is the old model?

[Jaeger]

If you are actually riding it off road and have to pick it up then yeah., weight counts.   

Assuming your shopping choices are a new Transalp versus one from the '80s,, then yeah, the comparison matters.  But while absolute weight obviously matters, for comparative purposes current segment competitors are relevant.

Does the Honda weigh 100lb more than the CFMOTO?  Because that's what's being discussed.

It's like someone considering the new Z and responding by saying well, the new one weighs more than the original. So what?

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If you are actually riding it off road and have to pick it up then yeah., weight counts.   

Most people wont be driving them hardcore.   As nice as they look and offroad capable,   they will be used closer to a touring bike and companies knows that. 

[Jaeger]

If you are actually riding it off road and have to pick it up then yeah., weight counts.   

Most people wont be driving them hardcore.   As nice as they look and offroad capable,   they will be used closer to a touring bike and companies knows that.

Of course.  But hey, Rob rides his Tiger 900 off road WAY more than most buyers, and that's got to weight more than the Transalp.

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If you are actually riding it off road and have to pick it up then yeah., weight counts.   

Most people wont be driving them hardcore.   As nice as they look and offroad capable,   they will be used closer to a touring bike and companies knows that.

Of course.  But hey, Rob rides his Tiger 900 off road WAY more than most buyers, and that's got to weight more than the Transalp.

They are probably fairly descent on weight distribution.

[ktm525]

If it doesn't break.  Aprilla Touareg 660

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If it doesn't break.  Aprilla Touareg 660

 it is by far my favorite one.   it's perfect size and I like that the fuel tank is a bit bigger than the other ones.

[ktm525]

If it doesn't break.  Aprilla Touareg 660

 it is by far my favorite one.   it's perfect size and I like that the fuel tank is a bit bigger than the other ones.

It's a butter face but no worse than most KTMs.

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If it doesn't break.  Aprilla Touareg 660

 it is by far my favorite one.   it's perfect size and I like that the fuel tank is a bit bigger than the other ones.

It's a butter face but no worse than most KTMs.

That engine is supposed to be glorious too....when it works

[ktm525]

looked at a Ducati desert X. Lined up a test ride in about a month once the snow clears.

[rrocket]

looked at a Ducati desert X. Lined up a test ride in about a month once the snow clears.

Like $4k more than the KTM?

[Jaeger]

looked at a Ducati desert X. Lined up a test ride in about a month once the snow clears.

Isn't that thing heavier than the Transalp? 

[ktm525]

looked at a Ducati desert X. Lined up a test ride in about a month once the snow clears.

Isn't that thing heavier than the Transalp? 

You bet it is. Don't worry just going riding. 

It looks like it is 33 lbs heavier but it does have 110 HP so 19 HP more  to lug that extra 33lbs... Plus it is a 90 degree layout vs the parallel twin.. Sounds oh so nice. 


Nice 4 piston brakes up front and 2 piston in the rear. 9" of suspension travel. 2 fuel tanks for almost 30L. 

[rrocket]

looked at a Ducati desert X. Lined up a test ride in about a month once the snow clears.

Isn't that thing heavier than the Transalp? 

You bet it is. Don't worry just going riding. 

It looks like it is 33 lbs heavier but it does have 110 HP so 19 HP more  to lug that extra 33lbs... Plus it is a 90 degree layout vs the parallel twin.. Sounds oh so nice. 


Nice 4 piston brakes up front and 2 piston in the rear. 9" of suspension travel. 2 fuel tanks for almost 30L.

Yea, but the KTM with the offset crank and firing orders (285/435) mimics a V sound. The Honda at 270 degree order should do a nice job too.

When I test drove the KTM, it was an extremely convincing sound.

I was initially really irritated to hear KTM moving to a parallel twin since I think they sound terrible....my least favorite engine sound.

Was glad (relieved?) to hear of the offset crank/firing order.

[Jaeger]

looked at a Ducati desert X. Lined up a test ride in about a month once the snow clears.

Isn't that thing heavier than the Transalp? 

You bet it is. Don't worry just going riding. 

It looks like it is 33 lbs heavier but it does have 110 HP so 19 HP more  to lug that extra 33lbs... Plus it is a 90 degree layout vs the parallel twin.. Sounds oh so nice. 


Nice 4 piston brakes up front and 2 piston in the rear. 9" of suspension travel. 2 fuel tanks for almost 30L.

But... but... but... the Honda is too heavy to take off road! So you're sticking to the street with the pricey desert machine? 

Transalp has a 270 degree crank and sounds pretty good.