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[blur911]

Who else thinks Canadian Tire and Princess Auto should have an anniversary/birthday card section?

I want one stop shopping

[Ex-airbalancer]

Who else thinks Canadian Tire and Princess Auto should have an anniversary/birthday card section?

I want one stop shopping

I try to avoid CTC
I just wish there was more PA around

[Great_Big_Abyss]

So, not only did we unexpectedly lose our design manager at the turn of the New Year, but now our Branch Manager's position has just been posted on our internal job posting website.  I've suspected for a few years that he was close to retirement, and indeed, he plans on retiring in 4-6 months.  Hopefully we find a replacement in time for an effective transition. 

And on that note... I am THINKING of applying for the job. 

I'm not remotely qualified, from a managerial point of view, having never created a business budget in my life, nor even ever held a management or supervisory position. 

HOWEVER, I've been in the industry for 14 years, and have a decent grasp on how our business works.  I'm a jack of all trades, and a quick learner - so I think I'd be able to adapt, and quickly figure out what I need to figure out.  I'd have the backing of a decent medium-sized company, and the expertise and staff that comes along with it.  Likely any time I have any doubts, there would be plenty of peers to turn to for advice.  I've always held good relationships with my customers, as well as with my co-workers - I think this shows that I'm able to maintain positive, constructive relationships with people. 

I dunno, maybe I"m just trying to talk myself into applying for it.  I'm still on the fence.  I'm just afraid that in this current job climate, upper management won't find somebody to fill the position, and come six months, we're going to be up creek without a paddle.  Or worse yet, they'll bring in somebody completely incompetent.  I may end up being incompetent at first, but hey, at least I know all the people I'd be working with, and how best they work.  Which person needs motivating, which person needs just being left alone, etc. 

I dunno, I'm so full of self doubt about it.  The truth is, in my industry, there isn't much, if any room for advancement.  Once you're a truss designer, there isn't any where to go.  I've always seen myself as a truss designer for life.  This may be an opportunity that doesn't present itself ever again during my career.

[Hannibalsmith]

So, not only did we unexpectedly lose our design manager at the turn of the New Year, but now our Branch Manager's position has just been posted on our internal job posting website.  I've suspected for a few years that he was close to retirement, and indeed, he plans on retiring in 4-6 months.  Hopefully we find a replacement in time for an effective transition. 

And on that note... I am THINKING of applying for the job. 

I'm not remotely qualified, from a managerial point of view, having never created a business budget in my life, nor even ever held a management or supervisory position. 

HOWEVER, I've been in the industry for 14 years, and have a decent grasp on how our business works.  I'm a jack of all trades, and a quick learner - so I think I'd be able to adapt, and quickly figure out what I need to figure out.  I'd have the backing of a decent medium-sized company, and the expertise and staff that comes along with it.  Likely any time I have any doubts, there would be plenty of peers to turn to for advice.  I've always held good relationships with my customers, as well as with my co-workers - I think this shows that I'm able to maintain positive, constructive relationships with people. 

I dunno, maybe I"m just trying to talk myself into applying for it.  I'm still on the fence.  I'm just afraid that in this current job climate, upper management won't find somebody to fill the position, and come six months, we're going to be up creek without a paddle.  Or worse yet, they'll bring in somebody completely incompetent.  I may end up being incompetent at first, but hey, at least I know all the people I'd be working with, and how best they work.  Which person needs motivating, which person needs just being left alone, etc. 

I dunno, I'm so full of self doubt about it.  The truth is, in my industry, there isn't much, if any room for advancement.  Once you're a truss designer, there isn't any room for advancement.  I've always seen myself as a truss designer for life.  This may be an opportunity that doesn't present itself ever again during my career.

Go for it. Employees have the upper hand these day.

[Serniter]

Go for it. Doesn’t look like you’re taking a risk applying and it does sound like you’re interested and curious. There is the possibility it will increase your administrative overhead without a matching increase in pay. But you may be more satisfied overall.

[Great_Big_Abyss]

So, not only did we unexpectedly lose our design manager at the turn of the New Year, but now our Branch Manager's position has just been posted on our internal job posting website.  I've suspected for a few years that he was close to retirement, and indeed, he plans on retiring in 4-6 months.  Hopefully we find a replacement in time for an effective transition. 

And on that note... I am THINKING of applying for the job. 

I'm not remotely qualified, from a managerial point of view, having never created a business budget in my life, nor even ever held a management or supervisory position. 

HOWEVER, I've been in the industry for 14 years, and have a decent grasp on how our business works.  I'm a jack of all trades, and a quick learner - so I think I'd be able to adapt, and quickly figure out what I need to figure out.  I'd have the backing of a decent medium-sized company, and the expertise and staff that comes along with it.  Likely any time I have any doubts, there would be plenty of peers to turn to for advice.  I've always held good relationships with my customers, as well as with my co-workers - I think this shows that I'm able to maintain positive, constructive relationships with people. 

I dunno, maybe I"m just trying to talk myself into applying for it.  I'm still on the fence.  I'm just afraid that in this current job climate, upper management won't find somebody to fill the position, and come six months, we're going to be up creek without a paddle.  Or worse yet, they'll bring in somebody completely incompetent.  I may end up being incompetent at first, but hey, at least I know all the people I'd be working with, and how best they work.  Which person needs motivating, which person needs just being left alone, etc. 

I dunno, I'm so full of self doubt about it.  The truth is, in my industry, there isn't much, if any room for advancement.  Once you're a truss designer, there isn't any room for advancement.  I've always seen myself as a truss designer for life.  This may be an opportunity that doesn't present itself ever again during my career.

Go for it. Employees have the upper hand these day.

It's not about having the upper hand as an employee.  It's about whether I'm the right person to accept the responsibility.  And it's a LOT of responsibility.  This branch manager is directly responsible for 70-80 employees, including a 60-person manufacturing plant, c/w production manager and millions of dollars worth of equipment, and a 20 person admin/design team, again with a currently vacant design manager position. 

It's not a small branch, and not a small job.  I'm probably more likely to crash and burn after the first year, as I am at being successful.  Maybe that's just nervousness and self-doubt rearing its ugly head.  After all, the production manager is there to take care of the shop, right?

[Great_Big_Abyss]

Go for it. Doesn’t look like you’re taking a risk applying and it does sound like you’re interested and curious. There is the possibility it will increase your administrative overhead without a matching increase in pay. But you may be more satisfied overall.

That's the thing.  There's zero risk to apply.  At the very least, I'll be able to find out more of what is required.  I can always take a few crash courses in business administration if I'm being seriously considered for the job.

[Hannibalsmith]

So, not only did we unexpectedly lose our design manager at the turn of the New Year, but now our Branch Manager's position has just been posted on our internal job posting website.  I've suspected for a few years that he was close to retirement, and indeed, he plans on retiring in 4-6 months.  Hopefully we find a replacement in time for an effective transition. 

And on that note... I am THINKING of applying for the job. 

I'm not remotely qualified, from a managerial point of view, having never created a business budget in my life, nor even ever held a management or supervisory position. 

HOWEVER, I've been in the industry for 14 years, and have a decent grasp on how our business works.  I'm a jack of all trades, and a quick learner - so I think I'd be able to adapt, and quickly figure out what I need to figure out.  I'd have the backing of a decent medium-sized company, and the expertise and staff that comes along with it.  Likely any time I have any doubts, there would be plenty of peers to turn to for advice.  I've always held good relationships with my customers, as well as with my co-workers - I think this shows that I'm able to maintain positive, constructive relationships with people. 

I dunno, maybe I"m just trying to talk myself into applying for it.  I'm still on the fence.  I'm just afraid that in this current job climate, upper management won't find somebody to fill the position, and come six months, we're going to be up creek without a paddle.  Or worse yet, they'll bring in somebody completely incompetent.  I may end up being incompetent at first, but hey, at least I know all the people I'd be working with, and how best they work.  Which person needs motivating, which person needs just being left alone, etc. 

I dunno, I'm so full of self doubt about it.  The truth is, in my industry, there isn't much, if any room for advancement.  Once you're a truss designer, there isn't any room for advancement.  I've always seen myself as a truss designer for life.  This may be an opportunity that doesn't present itself ever again during my career.

Go for it. Employees have the upper hand these day.

It's not about having the upper hand as an employee.  It's about whether I'm the right person to accept the responsibility.  And it's a LOT of responsibility.  This branch manager is directly responsible for 70-80 employees, including a 60-person manufacturing plant, c/w production manager and millions of dollars worth of equipment, and a 20 person admin/design team, again with a currently vacant design manager position. 

It's not a small branch, and not a small job.  I'm probably more likely to crash and burn after the first year, as I am at being successful.  Maybe that's just nervousness and self-doubt rearing its ugly head.  After all, the production manager is there to take care of the shop, right?

By upper hand, I meant you make a choice and strong candidate, especially in light of others leaving. Whether you want the job or not is up to you of course.

But, as these things go, after one year your much more likely to settle into a grove, like any other job or thing you do.

[Gurgie]

You've got nothing to lose by applying & like you've said you know the business & customers, so just a matter of learning the financial side of it.


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[Triple Bob]

Just go for it, and become an amazing people leader!

Don't listen to all the middle management doom and gloom on here. 

[Brig]

Don't listen to all the middle management doom and gloom on here. 

[BWII]

Do it!  My BIL is the PM at the Calgary plant IIANM.  He's got that 60-80+ employees under him.  Been doing it for years.  Long way from retirement.  We got ya if you need a push! 

[KD]

Sounds like a great opportunity GBA!  From what I've read it sounds like you have enough experience and likely know a lot more than you realize.  Also, you already know the culture of the company and the players involved, which is a huge leg up, and it's obvious that you have the right attitude, which is the most important part imo.

My first job out of college evolved into a management position within four years of starting where I looked after 74 people at its peak.  It was the most satisfying and best job I've ever had by far, so no regrets there. 

My wife's older brother started the E-Commerce division of a large Canadian based company, which grew into a workforce of almost 700 employees by the time he left  to go on his own several years later.  It was a huge step up from his prior position where he managed a small regional newspaper/radio station chain.   He was really intimidated at first, mostly because he only had a college diploma from a 2-year program and many of the people assigned under him were Harvard MBAs and the like. 

I wouldn't sweat the education part of it at all.  You can always take online courses for any of the technical requirements of the position.  My current boss has barely a clue as to what my job involves and he manages ok.   

[Great_Big_Abyss]

I'm doing it.  I spoke to my old boss over the weekend, and he thinks it's a great idea.  He was actually next in line for the job, and had he stayed on, would likely have automatically fallen into the role.  He thinks that my character would actually be a better fit for the job than his (I'm less of a technical mind than he, but more of a people person).  He confirmed that there is zero downside to applying, and even if I don't get the job, it marks me as a motivated individual in the minds of my higher ups. 

I'll be submitting my cover letter and resume today, and then we shall see from there.  I think that I at least merit an interview, and given the propensity of this company to hire and promote from within, I"ll probably at least get to that stage.

[TheHire]

I'm doing it.  I spoke to my old boss over the weekend, and he thinks it's a great idea.  He was actually next in line for the job, and had he stayed on, would likely have automatically fallen into the role.  He thinks that my character would actually be a better fit for the job than his (I'm less of a technical mind than he, but more of a people person).  He confirmed that there is zero downside to applying, and even if I don't get the job, it marks me as a motivated individual in the minds of my higher ups. 

I'll be submitting my cover letter and resume today, and then we shall see from there.  I think that I at least merit an interview, and given the propensity of this company to hire and promote from within, I"ll probably at least get to that stage.

Good luck man! Really hope you get it.

[Hannibalsmith]

I'm doing it.  I spoke to my old boss over the weekend, and he thinks it's a great idea.  He was actually next in line for the job, and had he stayed on, would likely have automatically fallen into the role.  He thinks that my character would actually be a better fit for the job than his (I'm less of a technical mind than he, but more of a people person).  He confirmed that there is zero downside to applying, and even if I don't get the job, it marks me as a motivated individual in the minds of my higher ups. 

I'll be submitting my cover letter and resume today, and then we shall see from there.  I think that I at least merit an interview, and given the propensity of this company to hire and promote from within, I"ll probably at least get to that stage.

 

[JG20]

I'm doing it.  I spoke to my old boss over the weekend, and he thinks it's a great idea.  He was actually next in line for the job, and had he stayed on, would likely have automatically fallen into the role.  He thinks that my character would actually be a better fit for the job than his (I'm less of a technical mind than he, but more of a people person).  He confirmed that there is zero downside to applying, and even if I don't get the job, it marks me as a motivated individual in the minds of my higher ups. 

I'll be submitting my cover letter and resume today, and then we shall see from there.  I think that I at least merit an interview, and given the propensity of this company to hire and promote from within, I"ll probably at least get to that stage.

Good luck man!!

[Triple Bob]

I'm doing it.  I spoke to my old boss over the weekend, and he thinks it's a great idea.  He was actually next in line for the job, and had he stayed on, would likely have automatically fallen into the role.  He thinks that my character would actually be a better fit for the job than his (I'm less of a technical mind than he, but more of a people person).  He confirmed that there is zero downside to applying, and even if I don't get the job, it marks me as a motivated individual in the minds of my higher ups. 

I'll be submitting my cover letter and resume today, and then we shall see from there.  I think that I at least merit an interview, and given the propensity of this company to hire and promote from within, I"ll probably at least get to that stage.

Great decision, good luck!

[Bubba]

I'm doing it.  I spoke to my old boss over the weekend, and he thinks it's a great idea.  He was actually next in line for the job, and had he stayed on, would likely have automatically fallen into the role.  He thinks that my character would actually be a better fit for the job than his (I'm less of a technical mind than he, but more of a people person).  He confirmed that there is zero downside to applying, and even if I don't get the job, it marks me as a motivated individual in the minds of my higher ups. 

I'll be submitting my cover letter and resume today, and then we shall see from there.  I think that I at least merit an interview, and given the propensity of this company to hire and promote from within, I"ll probably at least get to that stage.

Good luck, GBA.  I'm pulling for you!

[PJungnitsch]

Might as well get you started with the training:

How to Handle an Insubordinate Employee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moH1Dctkozw&t