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2011 AJAC's Canadian COTY
« on: February 17, 2011, 03:11:27 pm »
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Re: 2011 AJAC's Canadian COTY
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2011, 03:48:15 pm »
It looks questionable in places, like how did they figure out the cargo score?:  ???
http://www.ajac.ca/web/ccoty/2011/comparison_category.asp?cat=90

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Re: 2011 AJAC's Canadian COTY
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2011, 03:59:45 pm »
Yah seriously... the Highlander and Sorento only have ~290L... WHEN THE THIRD ROW IS UP! So fold the seats down to match the five passenger capability of the Edge and it would've been a fair comparison. I don't think it would've given the Highlander enough points to get to 1st place, but sheesh.
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Re: 2011 AJAC's Canadian COTY
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2011, 07:44:14 pm »
Sub 150 HP and torque car wins car of the year. What is the world coming to.  :-\ :'( :surrend: :fall:
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Re: 2011 AJAC's Canadian COTY
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2011, 07:54:25 am »
Quote from: dougjp on February 17, 2011, 07:44:14 pm
Sub 150 HP and torque car wins car of the year. What is the world coming to.  :-\ :'( :surrend: :fall:

I'll take a wild guess here - 'their senses'! ::)
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Re: 2011 AJAC's Canadian COTY
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2011, 10:15:33 am »
Quote from: inco on February 20, 2011, 07:54:25 am
Quote from: dougjp on February 17, 2011, 07:44:14 pm
Sub 150 HP and torque car wins car of the year. What is the world coming to.  :-\ :'( :surrend: :fall:

I'll take a wild guess here - 'their senses'! ::)

More like politics and pity.  :rofl:
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Re: 2011 AJAC's Canadian COTY
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2011, 10:19:11 am »
Quote from: WheelsOnEdge.com on February 19, 2011, 04:05:39 pm
An Explanation of how the winners are picked:
http://www.wheelsonedge.com/video.asp?vid=354

I think its pretty fair


So is you role here to shill another forum full time, or what?

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Re: 2011 AJAC's Canadian COTY
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2011, 10:24:08 am »
Quote from: DanYanoff on February 17, 2011, 03:48:15 pm
It looks questionable in places, like how did they figure out the cargo score?:  ???

Or any score.

Like what is the difference between 7.3 and 7.4 for interior score? Do they have a meter that they read after scanning the vehicle?

These ratings are so subjective and fixed, it is laughable.
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Re: 2011 AJAC's Canadian COTY
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2011, 10:49:50 am »
Glad to see the expert panel recognizing the tremendous product that GM is now producing, unbiased by outdated, false myths about import superiority. :)

BTW, the old Canadiandriver link given in the first post is now broken in the post-apocalyptic era of autos.ca .
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Re: 2011 AJAC's Canadian COTY
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2011, 10:59:51 am »
I've test driven the Edge and while I didn't care for the whole "My Touch" thing, the car is a significant step forward. It drove very well and it was nicely finished inside and out. I can certainly see how it won it's catagory.

In terms of the Cruze,  I've walked around and sat in one in the showroom but not driven one. It strikes me as a good,decent design in a segment crowded with good decent designs. From the reviews I've read it's power and handling are competitive but not remarkable. I guess I don't see it as a standout  (unless you only compare it to what it replaced.)
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Re: 2011 AJAC's Canadian COTY
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2011, 01:38:49 pm »
Quote from: WheelsOnEdge.com on February 19, 2011, 04:05:39 pm
An Explanation of how the winners are picked:
http://www.wheelsonedge.com/video.asp?vid=354

I think its pretty fair


The video remains the same size in 'full screen'.

I don't see any explanation of how the winners are picked.

Did you produce the video? If not, what is your watermark doing on it?

Welcome to the forum  :)

 
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Re: 2011 AJAC's Canadian COTY
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2011, 01:48:33 pm »
This choice won't play well around these parts...
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Re: 2011 AJAC's Canadian COTY
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2011, 01:52:09 pm »
Quote from: hcrv on February 20, 2011, 10:24:08 am
Quote from: DanYanoff on February 17, 2011, 03:48:15 pm
It looks questionable in places, like how did they figure out the cargo score?:  ???

Or any score.

Like what is the difference between 7.3 and 7.4 for interior score? Do they have a meter that they read after scanning the vehicle?

These ratings are so subjective and fixed, it is laughable.

Didn't Wing explain this to us already? A bunch of guys gave votes and they display the averages.
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Re: 2011 AJAC's Canadian COTY
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2011, 03:49:05 pm »
Quote from: Erik on February 20, 2011, 01:52:09 pm
Quote from: hcrv on February 20, 2011, 10:24:08 am
Quote from: DanYanoff on February 17, 2011, 03:48:15 pm
It looks questionable in places, like how did they figure out the cargo score?:  ???

Or any score.

Like what is the difference between 7.3 and 7.4 for interior score? Do they have a meter that they read after scanning the vehicle?

These ratings are so subjective and fixed, it is laughable.

Didn't Wing explain this to us already? A bunch of guys gave votes and they display the averages.

Yup that is it basically, 30-40 people drive the car and then rate each cat on 1-10 and then it is averaged.

Most cars are so good now the difference is minor, as it should be.
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Re: 2011 AJAC's Canadian COTY
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2011, 03:56:30 pm »
I've always thought AJACs testing was suspect...regardless of who won.
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Re: 2011 AJAC's Canadian COTY
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2011, 05:00:16 pm »
Quote from: wing on February 20, 2011, 03:49:05 pm
Yup that is it basically, 30-40 people drive the car and then rate each cat on 1-10 and then it is averaged.

Most cars are so good now the difference is minor, as it should be.

Still so subjective and if they are all used to a certain style of vehicle, something new and strange might not be scored well even if is is better.
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Re: 2011 AJAC's Canadian COTY
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2011, 05:07:42 pm »
Quote from: hcrv on February 20, 2011, 05:00:16 pm
Quote from: wing on February 20, 2011, 03:49:05 pm
Yup that is it basically, 30-40 people drive the car and then rate each cat on 1-10 and then it is averaged.

Most cars are so good now the difference is minor, as it should be.

Still so subjective and if they are all used to a certain style of vehicle, something new and strange might not be scored well even if is is better.

That's the whole point.....define "better"
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Re: 2011 AJAC's Canadian COTY
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2011, 05:33:25 pm »
Quote from: sailor723 on February 20, 2011, 05:07:42 pm
That's the whole point.....define "better".

It took a while for North Americans to get used to and accept Asian vehicles. At first, many still bought from the big four (at that time), because that is what they were used to and grew up with. They soon figured out what was better.
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Re: 2011 AJAC's Canadian COTY
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2011, 05:50:37 pm »
All the journalists drive all the cars they aren't just coming off the street. There isn't anything so different that it can't win.

If anything being different can be an advantage in a sea of blandness and sameness
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Re: 2011 AJAC's Canadian COTY
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2011, 06:01:00 pm »
Quote from: hcrv on February 20, 2011, 05:33:25 pm
It took a while for North Americans to get used to and accept Asian vehicles. At first, many still bought from the big four (at that time), because that is what they were used to and grew up with. They soon figured out what was better.

And that's still going on. Except that now they're realizing that the better car is from a domestic manufacturer.
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