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Offline Triple Bob

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« on: February 05, 2011, 08:31:10 pm »
What's the cheapest RWD car (not truck) on the market today?
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Re: RWD
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2011, 08:37:02 pm »
Quote from: Turbo Bob on February 05, 2011, 08:31:10 pm
What's the cheapest RWD car (not truck) on the market today?

Hmmm....the Hyundai Genesis 2.0T when it's on sale for $20K?  Otherwise Mustang  V6 at about $23K??

New Toyo FT-86 should be around that price range too when it comes out....
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Re: RWD
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2011, 08:50:15 pm »
Are we talking about new cars?  How about the Smart Car?   Isn't that rear wheel drive, starting at around $14K brand new.


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Re: RWD
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2011, 09:00:20 pm »
Yep, new.  Is the Smart Car RWD?
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Re: RWD
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2011, 09:08:13 pm »
Smart appears to be rear engined and rear wheel drive like the original air cooled Beetle. 

http://www.canadiandriver.com/2010/08/06/buyers-guide-2011-smart-fortwo.htm/2

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Re: RWD
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2011, 09:16:41 pm »
Yeah guess it would be the smart, not very exciting haha
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Re: RWD
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2011, 06:14:51 pm »
Quote from: wing on February 05, 2011, 09:16:41 pm
Yeah guess it would be the smart, not very exciting haha

It could be exciting if you're driving one on a slippery road being surrounded by 18 wheelers.  :)

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Re: RWD
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2011, 08:40:44 pm »
Genesis 2.0T, Mazda Miata, Mustang V6, Camaro V6, Dodge Charger V6 are all under $30K.
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Re: RWD
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2011, 10:20:56 am »
Why are there so few RWD cars anymore?
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Re: RWD
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2011, 12:09:13 pm »
Quote from: Marko on February 12, 2011, 10:20:56 am
Why are there so few RWD cars anymore?

Ease of production and space...weren't those the reasons?
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Re: RWD
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2011, 12:17:40 pm »
If FWD is easier to produce then why were almost all cars RWD until quite recently? It seems the switch happened very quickly starting in the late 70s and within less than a decade there were very few RWD cars left.
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Re: RWD
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2011, 12:41:18 pm »
Quote from: Marko on February 12, 2011, 12:17:40 pm
If FWD is easier to produce then why were almost all cars RWD until quite recently? It seems the switch happened very quickly starting in the late 70s and within less than a decade there were very few RWD cars left.

Technology changes and improves over time. First RWD was easier. Then something happened and now FWD is easier given what we now know.
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Re: RWD
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2011, 12:53:39 pm »
Traction is a big one too. FWD is much better in ice and snow as the engine weight is over the drive wheels. People got less and less tolerant of getting stuck.
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Re: RWD
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2011, 08:53:46 am »
Actually, RWD was always easier and cheaper. FWD won for packaging reasons. Just easier to turn the engine sideways and make it all fit in a small area. Except for the snow traction issue, which is kind of a double edged sword anyway, there are no dynamic improvement for switching to FWD. Actually, all else being equal, I can't think of anything other than snow traction that FWD does better.
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Re: RWD
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2011, 09:08:31 am »
Quote from: PJungnitsch on February 12, 2011, 12:53:39 pm
Traction is a big one too. FWD is much better in ice and snow as the engine weight is over the drive wheels. People got less and less tolerant of getting stuck.
The old Beetle was better than any fwd car  for traction in snow.
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Re: RWD
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2011, 09:34:42 am »
Quote from: tpl on February 13, 2011, 09:08:31 am
Quote from: PJungnitsch on February 12, 2011, 12:53:39 pm
Traction is a big one too. FWD is much better in ice and snow as the engine weight is over the drive wheels. People got less and less tolerant of getting stuck.
The old Beetle was better than any fwd car  for traction in snow.

Which I suppose is why the 911 is such a good rally car.
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Re: RWD
« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2011, 06:20:55 pm »
Quote from: tpl on February 13, 2011, 09:08:31 am
The old Beetle was better than any fwd car  for traction in snow.

Yup, rear engine over the rear wheels.  Kinda like FWD backwards but without the torque steer.  :)   
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Re: RWD
« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2011, 06:34:38 pm »
I drove a Beetle in snow once. Massive understeer! Some weight under the hood is pretty much a requirement.
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Re: RWD
« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2011, 09:47:42 pm »
That would make it Fully Loaded!
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Re: RWD
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2011, 12:19:17 pm »
Quote from: PJungnitsch on February 12, 2011, 12:53:39 pm
Traction is a big one too. FWD is much better in ice and snow as the engine weight is over the drive wheels. People got less and less tolerant of getting stuck.

Modern traction control systems have eliminated this. I have been driving the G8 all winter (and she has been a nasty one) on a proper set of tires  without an issue. 
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