Topic: Motor Trend Car of the Year Is.....

[tpl]

Actually, smart meters and time of use electricity pricing will help with electric cars. The cheapest rate is overnight, so the time you will be plugging your car in every day is when the price is the lowest.

Indeed yes... and then a extra "gasoline equivalency tax" of many cents/KwH will be added.   
You can't win, you can't  break even.   2nd law of thermodynamics and politics

[Mitlov]

Motor Trend defends its choice of the Chevy Volt as COTY after Rush Limbaugh attacked the decision.  You all need to read this.  It's well-written, but more than that, it's HILARIOUS.

http://blogs.motortrend.com/rush-judgment-5957.html

[Leviathan]

Motor Trend defends its choice of the Chevy Volt as COTY after Rush Limbaugh attacked the decision.  You all need to read this.  It's well-written, but more than that, it's HILARIOUS.

http://blogs.motortrend.com/rush-judgment-5957.html

[Erik]

Motor Trend defends its choice of the Chevy Volt as COTY after Rush Limbaugh attacked the decision.  You all need to read this.  It's well-written, but more than that, it's HILARIOUS.

http://blogs.motortrend.com/rush-judgment-5957.html

Wow. Rush is a moron.

[Leviathan]

One of the CABs mileage log

Chevrolet Volt Driving Log

Date	Total Miles	EV Miles	CS Miles	Gallons	Total MPG
11-10-2010	63.5	52.8	10.7	0.32	200.7
11-11-2010	59.3	59.3	0	0	infinite
11-12-2010	60.4	30.6	29.8	0.72	83.9
11-13-2010	88.5	52.5	36	0.75	118
11-14-2010	79.9	42.2	37.7	1.09	72.9
11-15-2010	59	59	0	0	infinite
11-16-2010	59.3	59.3	0	0	infinite
11-17-2010	24.9	24.9	0	0	infinite
11-18-2010	73.3	60.6	12.7	0.34	215
11-19-2010	60.8	55.3	5.5	0.13	467.7
TOTAL	628.9	496.5	132.4	3.35	188

[Sir Osis of Liver]

188 US mpg = 1.25L/100km ! 

[Erik]

Interesting reading on that site. Fun to see how the Advisory Board types are using their Volts. Seem to be very happy with how they run.

The guy in the chart is doing partial recharges at work, so he is getting more than the average in EV range I would think.




Loved the description for this one:

Four volts a MINI-E and Tesla. These six cars probably drove a combined 500 miles on Saturday to come to the event and used about three gallons of gas combined! How's that for reducing our oil dependency!

[CatsEye68]

Limbaugh on the right is the equivalent of Tom Friedman of the NY Times on the left. Neither knows squat about cars or the auto industry and needs to never write about it again, ever. Every time they do, they show their total ignorance on the subject.

[Mitlov]

Limbaugh on the right is the equivalent of Tom Friedman of the NY Times on the left. Neither knows squat about cars or the auto industry and needs to never write about it again, ever. Every time they do, they show their total ignorance on the subject.

You mean this column?

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/26/opinion/26friedman.html?_r=1

Because he's dead on.

[Erik]

Good read. I liked this paragraph:

Kevin Czinger, Coda’s C.E.O., who drove me around Manhattan in his company’s soon-to-be-in-production electric car last week, laid out what is going on. The backbone of the modern U.S. economy was locally made cars powered by locally produced oil. It started us on a huge growth spurt. In recent decades, though, that industry was supplanted by foreign-made cars run on foreign oil, so “now every time we buy a car we’re exporting $15,000 of capital, paying for it with borrowed money and running it on foreign energy sources,” says Czinger. “We’ve gone from autos being a middle-class-making-machine to a middle-class-destroying-machine.” A U.S. electric car/battery industry would reverse that.

I've been saying that for for years, at least the part about exporting capital. And have been called a moron around these parts for saying so. It's all about "globalization" so it's ok. Glad there are now two of us anyway who think that.

[CatsEye68]

Limbaugh on the right is the equivalent of Tom Friedman of the NY Times on the left. Neither knows squat about cars or the auto industry and needs to never write about it again, ever. Every time they do, they show their total ignorance on the subject.

You mean this column?

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/26/opinion/26friedman.html?_r=1

Because he's dead on.

No, because that isn't about the auto industry. I am referring to the drivel he was spewing a couple of years ago.

[Leviathan]

The guy in the chart is doing partial recharges at work, so he is getting more than the average in EV range I would think.

Yes, he is charging while at work. I don't think that I'd bother (if I could) but, then again, one charge would do me 2 days worth of commuting anyway. I *might* opportunity charge when visiting my folks (~50km one way) although that would be a good time to run the gas engine to keep it in shape and the gas fresh.

[Mitlov]

Limbaugh on the right is the equivalent of Tom Friedman of the NY Times on the left. Neither knows squat about cars or the auto industry and needs to never write about it again, ever. Every time they do, they show their total ignorance on the subject.

You mean this column?

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/26/opinion/26friedman.html?_r=1

Because he's dead on.

No, because that isn't about the auto industry. I am referring to the drivel he was spewing a couple of years ago.

You should link to the column you're talking about.  Most of us don't have three years of Thomas Friedman columns memorized, so we have no idea what you're talking about.  And unlike Rush, he's not always an idiot (like I said, that "Moon Shot" column made some really good points about the auto industry and government promotion of electric cars).

[Leviathan]

Interesting reading on that site. Fun to see how the Advisory Board types are using their Volts. Seem to be very happy with how they run.

Another CAB feller says that he got 53.8 miles on a charge
Most Miles I Drove Using on Battery Mode

    The most miles I drove on battery mode was 53.8 miles. It was 53 degrees outside during the trip. I made an effort to drive as efficiently as I could during this trip. I tried to keep the car between 40 and 50 mph and used as little braking as possible during the trip.

    Robert Becker
    Chevy Volt Customer Advisory Board Member

[Erik]

Interesting reading on that site. Fun to see how the Advisory Board types are using their Volts. Seem to be very happy with how they run.

Another CAB feller says that he got 53.8 miles on a charge

    The most miles I drove on battery mode was 53.8 miles. It was 53 degrees outside during the trip. I made an effort to drive as efficiently as I could during this trip. I tried to keep the car between 40 and 50 mph and used as little braking as possible during the trip.

    Robert Becker
    Chevy Volt Customer Advisory Board Member

Damn impressive!

[Mitlov]

Interesting reading on that site. Fun to see how the Advisory Board types are using their Volts. Seem to be very happy with how they run.

Another CAB feller says that he got 53.8 miles on a charge

    The most miles I drove on battery mode was 53.8 miles. It was 53 degrees outside during the trip. I made an effort to drive as efficiently as I could during this trip. I tried to keep the car between 40 and 50 mph and used as little braking as possible during the trip.

    Robert Becker
    Chevy Volt Customer Advisory Board Member

Impressive, but I can't help but wonder if he was one of those people who tied up traffic by going 5-10 mph under the speed limit and accelerating like a grandmother, like the Prius I got stuck behind coming home from work on Friday.  I know we need to save the environment, but I just can't applaud "hypermiling," regardless of whether it's by Priuses or Volts...

[Leviathan]

Impressive, but I can't help but wonder if he was one of those people who tied up traffic by going 5-10 mph under the speed limit and accelerating like a grandmother, like the Prius I got stuck behind coming home from work on Friday.  I know we need to save the environment, but I just can't applaud "hypermiling," regardless of whether it's by Priuses or Volts...

It is only a matter of time before some wanker in a Volt or Leaf is doing that.

[Mitlov]

Impressive, but I can't help but wonder if he was one of those people who tied up traffic by going 5-10 mph under the speed limit and accelerating like a grandmother, like the Prius I got stuck behind coming home from work on Friday.  I know we need to save the environment, but I just can't applaud "hypermiling," regardless of whether it's by Priuses or Volts...

It is only a matter of time before some wanker in a Volt or Leaf is doing that.

It's only a matter of time before performance cars start coming with optional $1,000 cowcatchers on the front...

(Oh come on.  You know you want one.)

[Leviathan]

It's only a matter of time before performance cars start coming with optional $1,000 cowcatchers on the front...

(Oh come on.  You know you want one.)

Hehehe, maybe just for an hour or two....