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Non-functional Crap Put on Cars
« on: April 07, 2010, 04:25:49 pm »
The owner of this car should have the keys taken from him/her.   ::)  :rofl2:

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Re: Non-functional Crap Put on Cars
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2010, 06:01:28 pm »
For most cars the tachometer is non functional crap. Especially so with automatic cars; when was the last time you looked at it. And when you do, with aoutomatic, what are you going to do with the sighting.

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Re: Non-functional Crap Put on Cars
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2010, 06:04:49 pm »
Yikes!!
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Re: Non-functional Crap Put on Cars
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2010, 06:14:24 pm »
Nearly all cars with rear-mounted spoilers qualify.  For the most part, these are nothing more than cosmetic affectations.
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Re: Non-functional Crap Put on Cars
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2010, 06:21:23 pm »
Nearly all cars with rear-mounted spoilers qualify.  For the most part, these are nothing more than cosmetic affectations.

Yea, but at least most of them are pleasing to the eye.  On the other hand, the one on my Supra was a bit ugly, but it was at least functional (~90 pounds downforce)

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Re: Non-functional Crap Put on Cars
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2010, 06:28:29 pm »
For most cars the tachometer is non functional crap. Especially so with automatic cars; when was the last time you looked at it. And when you do, with automatic, what are you going to do with the sighting.
I look at the tachometer all the time on my GTI as it tells me which gear the transmission has selected... which is sometimes difficult to tell as the engine is quiet and the gearchanges are so fast and smooth.

And. Would you expect the manufacturers to change the instrument panel with different gearboxes in the same car? Especially now that the instrument panel is just one big circuit board in a lot of cars.

I would argue that the non-functional crap is the automatic transmission. Who needs one apart from a relatively small number of disabled people?
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Re: Non-functional Crap Put on Cars
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2010, 07:11:21 pm »
For most cars the tachometer is non functional crap. Especially so with automatic cars; when was the last time you looked at it. And when you do, with automatic, what are you going to do with the sighting.
I look at the tachometer all the time on my GTI as it tells me which gear the transmission has selected... which is sometimes difficult to tell as the engine is quiet and the gearchanges are so fast and smooth.

And. Would you expect the manufacturers to change the instrument panel with different gearboxes in the same car? Especially now that the instrument panel is just one big circuit board in a lot of cars.

I would argue that the non-functional crap is the automatic transmission. Who needs one apart from a relatively small number of disabled people?

Would you expect manufacturers to put the time/money into only producing automatic-variants for such a small niche in the market?   A lot of cars get better  (posted) mileage now with autos.   Maybe 8-9 years ago I was thinking we could save a lot of gas across the entire 'world fleet' by ditching the autos, since the slight mpg better efficiency of the manuals would probably add up to real savings... but now I'm not so sure...  seems like now the computers can now shift more optimally than people...

Power windows, power seats, dual climate control, satellite radio, CD changers, GPS, backup cameras, On-star, powerliftgates and CARPET could probably be ditched without affecting our lives too much...  maybe the weight and gas savings could save the world?

Well, maybe keep power windows... although I've been in the car where there was only one (removable) window hand crank between the 4 windows and we all got to our destination OK...  just had to be nice to the other passengers so they'd pass you the crank..


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Re: Non-functional Crap Put on Cars
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2010, 07:14:25 pm »
Manufactures who put non functional cosmetic bits are worse because they should know better. The general population is another story.

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Re: Non-functional Crap Put on Cars
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2010, 07:15:05 pm »
In most cases (present company excluded of course) the most useless crap put into cars (these days) are the drivers (yep i sed it) :-*

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Re: Non-functional Crap Put on Cars
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2010, 08:40:09 pm »
fog lights (actually they are more like driving lights)

Useless, but I like them  :P

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Re: Non-functional Crap Put on Cars
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2010, 10:38:29 pm »
For most cars the tachometer is non functional crap. Especially so with automatic cars; when was the last time you looked at it. And when you do, with aoutomatic, what are you going to do with the sighting.

I do look at mine for fun.   I watch the rpm struggle upwards ever so slowly as my Honda auto goes up a steep hill.   Or if I mashed the pedal to get up to speed and see the rpm stuck above 3000, I'll ease up on the throttle a bit and the auto will upshift and then it cruises around 2000 rpm to save gas. 



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Re: Non-functional Crap Put on Cars
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2010, 12:02:32 am »
Huuuuge wheels (esp. chromed ones).  Seriously heavy and often degrading performance once they get into the big 'dubs' plus.
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Re: Non-functional Crap Put on Cars
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2010, 10:06:13 am »
fog lights (actually they are more like driving lights)

Useless, but I like them  :P

I actually used mine for the first time last night in the pooring rain, worked well at lighting just that bit at each side that was too dark.  I could now see the lines on the road whereas I couldn't before, even with the wipers on full speed.


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Re: Non-functional Crap Put on Cars
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2010, 10:55:37 am »
fog lights (actually they are more like driving lights)

Useless, but I like them  :P
Nope.  They're not like driving lights. Driving lights are intended to come on with the high beams.  It is actually illegal to have more than one low (standard) beam illuminated per side of the vehicle. 

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Excerpt from the Highway Traffic Act for Ontario (http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/english/elaws_statutes_90h08_e.htm#BK120)
Lamps

Lamps required on all motor vehicles except motorcycles

62.  (1)  When on a highway at any time from one-half hour before sunset to one-half hour after sunrise and at any other time when, due to insufficient light or unfavourable atmospheric conditions, persons and vehicles on the highway are not clearly discernible at a distance of 150 metres or less, every motor vehicle other than a motorcycle shall carry three lighted lamps in a conspicuous position, one on each side of the front of the vehicle which shall display a white or amber light only, and one on the rear of the vehicle which shall display a red light only. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 62 (1).

Fog lights can be used to supplement the low beams only.  As TB points out in a separate post, fog lights are very useful in picking out the sides of the road.  Granted they are often used as an automotive fashion accessory (BMW and Pontiac owners, take note!) but that is not their intended use.

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What is the difference between a fog light & a driving light?
Fog lights provide illumination forward of the vehicle that enhances visibility in fog, rain, snow, or dust. Fog lights are intended to be used in conjunction with standard headlamp low beams. Driving lights are mounted to provide illumination forward of the vehicle and intended to supplement the high beam of a standard headlamp system. It is not intended for use alone or with the low beam of a standard headlamp system.
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Re: Non-functional Crap Put on Cars
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2010, 11:06:25 am »
Speedo?

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Re: Non-functional Crap Put on Cars
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2010, 02:27:13 pm »
I thought that most cars are automatic...here anyway. So it is opposite ...the dashes are compromised to facilitate a tachometer for standard shift cars. This means less room for a larger speedo except for the Mini which scores highly in this regard...placing the tach out of the way behind the steering wheel.

If it requires a tachometer to tell you when to change gear then maybe an auto tranny is called for. Taking ones eyes off the road for such an activity is contra-indicated for safety. In the old days we changed gear by sound and vibration and if that can not be done today then artificial sound should be introduced in lower gear engagement.

Requirements for road going auto's are not what racing cars require. It used to be that race cars only had a tach and the road speed was not important...it was always the max possible at that particular road juncture. Anyway, what does reality have to do with anything.

The lower running lights...have never used mine.
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Re: Non-functional Crap Put on Cars
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2010, 03:51:29 pm »
Yeah...how about those stupid "Baby on Board" signs you seen in every mini-van!   ::)

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Re: Non-functional Crap Put on Cars
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2010, 05:06:25 pm »
..Oy not all of us crap on yer shipboxes......some of us have some pride...... :P
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Re: Non-functional Crap Put on Cars
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2010, 10:12:33 pm »
My Ford Mustang (what a mistake that was) had a tachometer without a redline.

So I asked the service advisor at the Ford dealership if I was supposed to rev it up till I saw a piston go flying through the front hood, take notice of the RPM and then back it off a bit.   :rofl:
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Re: Non-functional Crap Put on Cars
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2010, 10:17:19 pm »
Those "Baby On Board" signs in the back windows of cars.