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Offline Snowman

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C&D's The Quickest Cars of 2009
« on: March 16, 2009, 07:17:47 pm »
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Re: C&D's The Quickest Cars of 2009
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2009, 08:13:56 pm »
A Sentra outruns a Mustang???  ??? :rofl: :rofl2:

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Re: C&D's The Quickest Cars of 2009
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2009, 08:14:47 pm »
Quote from: Jaeger on March 16, 2009, 08:13:56 pm
A Sentra outruns a Mustang???  ??? :rofl: :rofl2:

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V6 Mustang, yes.

At least the Mustang has looks.

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Re: C&D's The Quickest Cars of 2009
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2009, 08:24:39 pm »
Quote from: Sir Osis of Liver on March 16, 2009, 08:14:47 pm
Quote from: Jaeger on March 16, 2009, 08:13:56 pm
A Sentra outruns a Mustang???  ??? :rofl: :rofl2:

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V6 Mustang, yes.

At least the Mustang has looks.

Yeah - 4 cylinder Sentra.   :rofl:

No argument on looks - the Sentra is fugly and the Mustang does look good.

As an aside - we are clearly living in the new age of the muscle car when bone stock 4 door family cars like the Camry, Legacy and Altima all post sub-6 second times.  Life is good.

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Re: C&D's The Quickest Cars of 2009
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2009, 08:25:31 pm »
The quintessential family Maytag Camry smoking the GTI is the real shocker.
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Re: C&D's The Quickest Cars of 2009
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2009, 08:31:17 pm »
The Camry is boring as hell, but slow it aint.

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Re: C&D's The Quickest Cars of 2009
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2009, 08:39:15 pm »
Delicious to hear about the 335i. Slap on a Vishniu mod (ECU chip) and pushing high 300hp...  :drool:

I've been getting the itch to trade up.  ;D
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Re: C&D's The Quickest Cars of 2009
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2009, 08:39:36 pm »
Surprised by just how quick the Legacy GT is. I didn't recall it being that quick.
Too bad it's such a jump in MSRP in Canada.
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Re: C&D's The Quickest Cars of 2009
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2009, 08:53:27 pm »
Quote from: Snowman on March 16, 2009, 08:25:31 pm
The quintessential family Maytag Camry smoking the GTI is the real shocker.

Nobody ever accused the current crop of V6 family sedans of being underpowered. :o
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Re: C&D's The Quickest Cars of 2009
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2009, 09:50:41 pm »
Damn, those are some seriously quick cars.
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Re: C&D's The Quickest Cars of 2009
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2009, 10:47:00 pm »
280ish FWD family V6 sedans..  don't care about.

The Legacy GT is a true sleeper though, loving it.
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Re: C&D's The Quickest Cars of 2009
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2009, 01:55:29 am »
Quote from: Snowman on March 16, 2009, 08:25:31 pm
The quintessential family Maytag Camry smoking the GTI is the real shocker.

GTI's never been about straight-line speed--much more about handling and driver feedback--and the new crop of V6 family sedans are hideously overpowered (though not that great to drive from a subjective perspective).  I'm not surprised at all.
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Re: C&D's The Quickest Cars of 2009
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2009, 02:01:54 am »
I just can't fathom how the WRX (265) is quicker than the STi...

There is no way.  STi doesn't weigh THAT much more than the WRX, right?


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Re: C&D's The Quickest Cars of 2009
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2009, 02:09:31 am »
Quote from: Arctic_White on March 17, 2009, 02:01:54 am
I just can't fathom how the WRX (265) is quicker than the STi...

There is no way.  STi doesn't weigh THAT much more than the WRX, right?


WRX has a 5-speed; STI has a 6-speed.

Just a guess, but maybe the WRX gets to 60 in first gear, while the STI needs a shift into second. It's a meaningless difference in the real world, but can have a significant impact on zero-to-sixty times.
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Re: C&D's The Quickest Cars of 2009
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2009, 02:45:55 am »
Quote from: SiRCivic on March 17, 2009, 02:09:31 am
Quote from: Arctic_White on March 17, 2009, 02:01:54 am
I just can't fathom how the WRX (265) is quicker than the STi...

There is no way.  STi doesn't weigh THAT much more than the WRX, right?


WRX has a 5-speed; STI has a 6-speed.

Just a guess, but maybe the WRX gets to 60 in first gear, while the STI needs a shift into second. It's a meaningless difference in the real world, but can have a significant impact on zero-to-sixty times.

From what I've read, the STI actually has a surprising amount of turbo lag.  Turbo lag kills 0-60 times, even if it doesn't necessarily hurt you on the track (so long as you keep the engine in the sweet spot).

Losing 30 horsepower but also losing that lag will improve 0-60 times.
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Re: C&D's The Quickest Cars of 2009
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2009, 09:03:31 am »
Quote from: SiRCivic on March 17, 2009, 02:09:31 am
Quote from: Arctic_White on March 17, 2009, 02:01:54 am
I just can't fathom how the WRX (265) is quicker than the STi...

There is no way.  STi doesn't weigh THAT much more than the WRX, right?


WRX has a 5-speed; STI has a 6-speed.

Just a guess, but maybe the WRX gets to 60 in first gear, while the STI needs a shift into second. It's a meaningless difference in the real world, but can have a significant impact on zero-to-sixty times.

Two shifts in a WRX, three in an STi. The smaller turbo also spools up faster so lag is almost none existent.
Mitlov, this was a test for 0-60, not lap times.
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Re: C&D's The Quickest Cars of 2009
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2009, 09:13:15 am »
Quote from: Snowman on March 16, 2009, 08:25:31 pm
The quintessential family Maytag Camry smoking the GTI is the real shocker.

 :o OMG....I should have bought a Toyota instead! What was I thinking?
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Re: C&D's The Quickest Cars of 2009
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2009, 09:23:04 am »
In the Camaro fuel economy thread, there seems to be some thinking that the Camaro attaining the same economy as the "lowly" V-6 family sedans is a big deal.  How about the fact that the V-6 family sedans are nearly as quick?
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Re: C&D's The Quickest Cars of 2009
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2009, 10:57:00 am »
Quote from: johngenx on March 17, 2009, 09:23:04 am
In the Camaro fuel economy thread, there seems to be some thinking that the Camaro attaining the same economy as the "lowly" V-6 family sedans is a big deal.  How about the fact that the V-6 family sedans are nearly as quick?

You're forgetting about the FWD versus RWD distinction.  It's pretty sweet when a modestly-more-powerful RWD car bests a modestly-less-powerful FWD car in fuel economy.
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Re: C&D's The Quickest Cars of 2009
« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2009, 11:26:57 am »
Quote from: quadzilla on March 17, 2009, 09:13:15 am
Quote from: Snowman on March 16, 2009, 08:25:31 pm
The quintessential family Maytag Camry smoking the GTI is the real shocker.

 :o OMG....I should have bought a Toyota instead! What was I thinking?

What? Did you get that GTi you were looking for? ;D
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