Quote from: Mattesa on March 01, 2009, 10:56:10 amSo a G37 drives resolutely better than the Genesis. Makes me want to try a G37. The G37 drives better than a Genesis is price is not an issue for you. But it certainly doesn't drive 50% better than the Genesis if price is an issue for you.Hyundai just did to Infiniti what Infiniti's spent the past few years doing to BMW.
So a G37 drives resolutely better than the Genesis. Makes me want to try a G37.
I think the fact that the Genesis (sedan) challenges the luxury brands it's a matter of perception too. I sat in one, the V6 model, and it felt like a very well done mainstream vehicle, but nowhere near the feel of a BMW, Audi or Lexus. Not even Acura or Volvo.I guess the fake plastic wood, the grain on the dash and door panels - same as on the lower end vehicles, the big, four-spoke steering wheel with the similar design as any other Hyundai had a major contribution. Sure, it comes with a lot of features standard, but the luxury features don’t make a luxury vehicle.The exterior looked nice though and very well executed.
Quote from: carcrazy on January 08, 2009, 08:55:11 pmI think the fact that the Genesis (sedan) challenges the luxury brands it's a matter of perception too. I sat in one, the V6 model, and it felt like a very well done mainstream vehicle, but nowhere near the feel of a BMW, Audi or Lexus. Not even Acura or Volvo.I guess the fake plastic wood, the grain on the dash and door panels - same as on the lower end vehicles, the big, four-spoke steering wheel with the similar design as any other Hyundai had a major contribution. Sure, it comes with a lot of features standard, but the luxury features don’t make a luxury vehicle.The exterior looked nice though and very well executed.Really? I've found most recent BMWs and even Mercedes to be a major letdown interior wise... the Genesis really surprised me with the luxury feel.Certainly much better than any mainstream car like a Maxima or Avalon.
Quote from: whistler on March 09, 2009, 09:24:24 pmQuote from: carcrazy on January 08, 2009, 08:55:11 pmI think the fact that the Genesis (sedan) challenges the luxury brands it's a matter of perception too. I sat in one, the V6 model, and it felt like a very well done mainstream vehicle, but nowhere near the feel of a BMW, Audi or Lexus. Not even Acura or Volvo.I guess the fake plastic wood, the grain on the dash and door panels - same as on the lower end vehicles, the big, four-spoke steering wheel with the similar design as any other Hyundai had a major contribution. Sure, it comes with a lot of features standard, but the luxury features don’t make a luxury vehicle.The exterior looked nice though and very well executed.Really? I've found most recent BMWs and even Mercedes to be a major letdown interior wise... the Genesis really surprised me with the luxury feel.Certainly much better than any mainstream car like a Maxima or Avalon. I haven't sat in the Genesis but am not surprised by the comment above. Here in North America we forget that BMWs and MBs are much more common in overseas markets like Europe. Lots of BMW and Mercedes Benz taxis over there. Personally, I think they're overrated status symbols over here in North America which is unfortunate because their inflated price often puts them out of reach of some of the very same people who could truly appreciate the driving experience. People like us! /Eric
Hmmm...no real mention of a bad interior....
Quote from: rrocket on February 26, 2009, 08:27:57 pm^^ V6 or 4 banger turbo for you??The faster one My problem is I have a quick AWD car and once you have driven one you will never go back.
^^ V6 or 4 banger turbo for you??
Quote from: Snowman on February 26, 2009, 09:23:28 pmQuote from: rrocket on February 26, 2009, 08:27:57 pm^^ V6 or 4 banger turbo for you??The faster one My problem is I have a quick AWD car and once you have driven one you will never go back.Would you not prefer a modded turbo to a V6?
Quote from: whistler on March 09, 2009, 09:24:24 pmQuote from: carcrazy on January 08, 2009, 08:55:11 pmI think the fact that the Genesis (sedan) challenges the luxury brands it's a matter of perception too. I sat in one, the V6 model, and it felt like a very well done mainstream vehicle, but nowhere near the feel of a BMW, Audi or Lexus. Not even Acura or Volvo.I guess the fake plastic wood, the grain on the dash and door panels - same as on the lower end vehicles, the big, four-spoke steering wheel with the similar design as any other Hyundai had a major contribution. Sure, it comes with a lot of features standard, but the luxury features don’t make a luxury vehicle.The exterior looked nice though and very well executed.Really? I've found most recent BMWs and even Mercedes to be a major letdown interior wise... the Genesis really surprised me with the luxury feel.Certainly much better than any mainstream car like a Maxima or Avalon.Thank you...I thought I was crazy. Other people told me I was crazy. I sat in a few BMWs, Audis, and Mercedes at the auto show and I was very unimpressed with the interior. For that much more money you'd think that they would be better than they are.Don't get me wrong...I understand that they have good performance/handling/features above and beyond some other vehicles but better interiors would be nice. Not worth the money in my mind.
I agree. I think the look of the 3-Series interior is terribly bland, with a few cheap touches thrown in for good measure (rectangularish grey cut-out housings for the radio and HVAC to be specific).My theory on this is that the Lexus, Infinitis, and Acuras have to go completely over-the-top to convey a sense of luxury. Lexus and Infiniti is doing just fine with this, but Acura interiors have become so tacky.